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[AresKeith]

Not really Wrex pointed out that if the reaper's or the turian bomb don't wipe out the Krogan, then it's going to be genophage that delivers the fatal blow to the Krogan people.

 

Wrex also knew that the Krogan themselves would help speed that process 

[Malanek]

My issue is more with how they convince the females to flee Tuchanka if pre-genophage arc to go on this exodus to Andromeda. As I understood they exclusively stay in their camps on Tuchanka and have no need to flee. During the Tuchanka arc the females are all on world waiting for the cure. If it is post-genophage arc I expect some mention of their being cured outright or having overcome the genophage on their own eventually. They would still be experiencing miscarriages and stillbirths at some point during their early journey or colonization.

We don't know for sure how they get to Andromeda. There could be no female Krogan at all for instance.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I doubt the Rachni would appear, and the Geth/Quarians are definitely difficult because they can be wiped out 

Well, with MP being canon it is canon that regardless of Rannoch there are Geth and Quarians still around since they are fighting Reaper forces. 

 

As for the Rachni, there are several logical reasons to bring them along, but you're probably right about them not showing up.

[Malanek]

Well, with MP being canon it is canon that regardless of Rannoch there are Geth and Quarians still around since they are fighting Reaper forces. 

 

As for the Rachni, there are several logical reasons to bring them along, but you're probably right about them not showing up.

Don't read too much into MPer being canon. We never had Geth on London streets for instance. I don't see how any of the Geth kits would work if you chose to destroy them. Nor the awakened collector if you didn't follow the Leviathan trail.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Don't read too much into MPer being canon.

Well, the alternative is having neither Geth or Quarians in future games, and that's worse. 

[Cyonan]

But it's quite obvious that they die out if it's not cured. It took them about 1000 years to over come it naturally there is no way it can be done in one or two centuries.

 

It can be cured again by the ark crew while travelling, though.

 

Seriously, it got cured twice in the 3 years during the original trilogy. It would have been 3 times if you didn't stop Maelon.

 

It's not a stretch for us to cure it yet again.

[Lady Artifice]

Not really Wrex pointed out that if the reaper's or the turian bomb don't wipe out the Krogan, then it's going to be genophage that delivers the fatal blow to the Krogan people.

 

It's a huge galaxy. Even if the Krogan are essentially wiped out as a species, that doesn't mean that there isn't a Krogan anywhere. It would actually be more improbable that there wouldn't still be a few Krogan somewhere, considering how many of them have spread out and joined different groups of mercenaries. 

[Drone223]

Wrex also knew that the Krogan themselves would help speed that process

The reaper's have already speed up the process and possibly the turian bomb (had it detonated).

[AresKeith]

We don't know for sure how they get to Andromeda. There could be no female Krogan at all for instance.

 

 

People already speculate that the Krogan in the trailer was female by the head

 

Well, with MP being canon it is canon that regardless of Rannoch there are Geth and Quarians still around since they are fighting Reaper forces. 

 

As for the Rachni, there are several logical reasons to bring them along, but you're probably right about them not showing up.

 

Like Malanek said, I wouldn't read that much into the ME3 MP. The concept of the MP itself is canon but the characters there aren't 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's a huge galaxy. Even if the Krogan are essentially wiped out as a species, that doesn't mean that there isn't a Krogan anywhere. It would actually be more improbable that there wouldn't still be a few Krogan somewhere, considering how many of them have spread out and joined different groups of mercenaries. 

Yeah. This is why I don't think Batarians are wiped out either. Between refugees and the ones in the Terminus Systems which wasn't hit that hard by Reapers by the time the Crucible fires, there will be survivors. 

[Malanek]

It can be cured again by the ark crew while travelling, though.

 

Seriously, it got cured twice in the 3 years during the original trilogy. It would have been 3 times if you didn't stop Maelon.

 

It's not a stretch for us to cure it yet again.

Is curing the genophage on a starship really a good idea? I'm definitely not saying curing the genophage is impossible, but the motivation to do so will require some explanation. I don't think the writers really want Krogan to be overrunning the Helius cluster.

[Malanek]

People already speculate that the Krogan in the trailer was female by the head

 

Really? The recent trailer or the one with the horned Krogan? I'm still not convinced.

[Cyonan]

Is curing the genophage on a starship really a good idea? I'm definitely not saying curing the genophage is impossible, but the motivation to do so will require some explanation. I don't think the writers really want Krogan to be overrunning the Helius cluster.

 

It's a big starship, though you might want to not cure it until you get a bit closer =P

 

I don't know as the writers have much of a choice if they want Krogan in there. Either they need to address the fact that they're going to be all gone soon, or have them repopulating at a crazy rate.

 

Unless they claim that the ark just brought a lot of Krogan over to cover all the ones that we meet, and claim we left before Shep dealt with the genophage.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Really? The recent trailer or the one with the horned Krogan? I'm still not convinced.

The E3 2015 Teaser Trailer. The Krogan looks like it is wearing a hood similar to the hoods we saw the females wearing in ME3. 

[AresKeith]

Really? The recent trailer or the one with the horned Krogan? I'm still not convinced.

 

The recent trailer

 

Edit: 

[Malanek]

Hmmm, I'll have another look.

 

Edit : I'm not seeing it myself.

[Drone223]

It can be cured again by the ark crew while travelling, though.

 

Seriously, it got cured twice in the 3 years during the original trilogy. It would have been 3 times if you didn't stop Maelon.

 

It's not a stretch for us to cure it yet again.

Then it makes player choices in the genophage arc meaningless since the genophage is cured anyway.

 

It's a huge galaxy. Even if the Krogan are essentially wiped out as a species, that doesn't mean that there isn't a Krogan anywhere. It would actually be more improbable that there wouldn't still be a few Krogan somewhere, considering how many of them have spread out and joined different groups of mercenaries. 

There a lot of krogan (and possibly the vast majority of them in the whole galaxy) on tuchanka, the ones spread out across the galaxy aren't going to make much of a difference in sustaining a viable population if the genophage isn't cured.

[AresKeith]

Then it makes player choices in the genophage arc meaningless since the genophage is cured anyway.

 

Except for the Krogan still in the Milky Way

[Cyonan]

Then it makes player choices in the genophage arc meaningless since the genophage is cured anyway.

 

Just for the ark Krogan.

 

The whole "travel to another galaxy" thing doesn't leave the writers with a ton of options.

[Lady Artifice]

There a lot of krogan (and possibly the vast majority of them in the whole galaxy) on tuchanka, the ones spread out across the galaxy aren't going to make much of a difference in sustaining a viable population if the genophage isn't cured.

 

They don't need to have a viable population in order for there to be a few of them around during the timeframe of Andromeda, thanks to how long they live. I'm saying that the presence of one does not necessitate the existence of many.

[MGW7]

The Salarians never wanted to wipe out the Krogan, merely control the population.

 

Through Wrex we learn that the Krogan can sustain, and even increase in population if they focus their efforts on doing so, and the only reason such hasn't happened is purely cultural. With krogan wandering off and getting themselves killed being the only thing limiting their numbers.

 

Likewise, it is highly probable that in the event of a population collapse the Salarians would preform their typical underhanded shenanigans and help them along enough to sustain their population. They can easily block the attachment sites to create temporary resistance enough to put out extra children, but have the effect wear off over a period of time, an anti birth control pill effectively.

 

If the Salarians want the population to increase, they can easily do it, they just aren't keen on such a thing across such a large scale as an entire planet. 

[Drone223]

Except for the Krogan still in the Milky Way

If it's going to be cured regardless of what happens then it does invalidate the players choices.

[AresKeith]

If it's going to be cured regardless of what happens then it does invalidate the players choices.

 

Does it invalidate your choice in the Milky Way? No

 

The Ark Krogan are honestly irrelevant in this choice 

[Drone223]

They don't need to have a viable population in order for there to be a few of them around during the timeframe of Andromeda, thanks to how long they live. I'm saying that the presence of one does not necessitate the existence of many.

Then there isn't a point in saving them if they aren't going to survive in another galaxy.

[Malanek]

They don't need to have a viable population in order for there to be a few of them around during the timeframe of Andromeda, thanks to how long they live. I'm saying that the presence of one does not necessitate the existence of many.

Agree, although the leak did speak about a Krogan colony ship.