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The krogan in Andromeda (Pre- or Post- Genophage Arc)


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#51
Drone223

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Does it invalidate your choice in the Milky Way? No
 
The Ark Krogan are honestly irrelevant in this choice

It's still hand waving player choice their isn't a point in sabatoging the cure if the krogan are going to be cured any way.

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Then there isn't a point in saving them if they aren't going to survive in another galaxy.

I don't agree with that. Saving them in the milky way means they will thrive or go to war in the milky way. It is just an unanswered question left to your imagination.

 

The whole "your choice matters" saying is a bit self righteous however. In normal imports your choices are generally merged together and have little meaning. In this case moving to Andromeda all your choices are probably going to be ignored. It doesn't worry me, I'm all for picking a default/canon ending, it just makes me chuckle claiming that your choice matters.



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It's still hand waving player choice their isn't a point in sabatoging the cure if the krogan are going to be cured any way.

 

Except for the Krogan that are still in the Milky Way



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It's still hand waving player choice their isn't a point in sabatoging the cure if the krogan are going to be cured any way.

 

I'm not really sure what you're looking for here. You complain that every viable choice for the writers here is hand waving player choice or rendering it irrelevant from ME3.

 

It's just going to happen if they want Krogan in ME:A. They wrote themselves into a corner, and there isn't a way out that's not going to render something irrelevant.

 

The "they cured it during travel on the ark ship" is the best solution to the whole thing that doesn't touch the milky way. The Krogan there are still dying out or re-populating based on your choice in ME3.



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I don't agree with that. Saving them in the milky way means they will thrive or go to war in the milky way. It is just an unanswered question left to your imagination.
 
The whole "your choice matters" saying is a bit self righteous however. In normal imports your choices are generally merged together and have little meaning. In this case moving to Andromeda all your choices are probably going to be ignored. It doesn't worry me, I'm all for picking a default/canon ending, it just makes me chuckle claiming that your choice matters.

People say going to another galaxy will prevent choices from being invalidated yet there is going to be hand waving of them which kind of defeats the purpose of not invalidating player choice. Yet some people who claim that choices shouldn't be invalidated are okay with the hand waving of said choices. That what I have problem with do they want their choices to matter or are they okay with some choices being hand wave they can't have both.

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People say going to another galaxy will prevent choices from being invalidated yet there is going to be hand waving of them which kind of defeats the purpose of not invalidating player choice. Yet some people who claim that choices shouldn't be invalidated are okay with the hand waving of said choices. That what I have problem with do they want their choices to matter or are they okay with some choices being hand wave they can't have both.

 

Your saying that it's being made invalid but it's not affecting your choice in the Milky Way, your choice is still there intact 



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Except for the Krogan that are still in the Milky Way

But it still gets cured one way or the other.

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People say going to another galaxy will prevent choices from being invalidated yet there is going to be hand waving of them which kind of defeats the purpose of not invalidating player choice. Yet some people who claim that choices shouldn't be invalidated are okay with the hand waving of said choices. That what I have problem with do they want their choices to matter or are they okay with some choices being hand wave they can't have both.

Whether we like it or not, none of the choices in Bioware games (or any other games for that matter) really make anything but a tiny cosmetic difference to future games. I would prefer they abandon the entire concept because it does cause a lot of restraint on what stories can be told. But a lot of people seem to enjoy those little cosmetic differences, and Bioware seems to think its important, so I guess we are stuck with it. And yes, moving to Andromeda to ignore the endings is a way of keeping the logic behind those cosmetic changes intact.



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The krogan on the ark to Andromeda are probably not cured, unless they found a cure on their own after ME3's events.

 

Not that it matters, the krogan can still get babies and have a healthy civilization, even with the genophage still in tact. They'll just have to learn to behave like civilized people instead of savage beasts.


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The krogan on the ark to Andromeda are probably not cured, unless they found a cure on their own after ME3's events.

 

Not that it matters, the krogan can still get babies and have a healthy civilization, even with the genophage still in tact. They'll just have to learn to behave like civilized people instead of savage beasts.

 

Their savagery could prove useful if we can turn them into a human client race.



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The krogan on the ark to Andromeda are probably not cured, unless they found a cure on their own after ME3's events.

 

Not that it matters, the krogan can still get babies and have a healthy civilization, even with the genophage still in tact. They'll just have to learn to behave like civilized people instead of savage beasts.

 

this^

 

The Genophage wasn't about destroying the Krogans, they were doing that themselves by their way if living and still are.

 

All the genetic manipulations did was stopping a Krogan female from having about 1000 viable Krogan babies a year for decades if not centuries by reducing that to one viable egg with 50% of it being a female (basically human reproduction speed). The crap part is that they still lay ~1000 eggs and most of them will die in stillbirth which is a huge emotional toll on the females. EDI tell you that in ME3 between two Tuchanka missions. She also mention that if only 1% of the female were cured, 10 billions Krogan would be born in the next year (there is about 1 billion Krogan Female at the time of ME3).

 

Curing the Genophage is a bad idea, changing their warlike mentality is the way to go...