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[PsychoBlonde]

I kinda want to play through the game again but I also kinda want to wait until all the DLC is out so I can do an official All The Things playthrough, so maybe possibly kinda would it be possible to get a quick "there's an expansion coming soonish" or "moar DLC's" or something update?  Anybody heard anything?

[Eelectrica]

We know they're gearing up for something to drop. Don't know when.

Patrick Weekes tweeted a few days ago that he's loaded up his 'ass inquisitor' again and the only reason to do that is to test the dialogue is consistent with that play style. I'd imagine it's a bit late now if it isn't...

[Saphiron123]

I just hope they focus on story for once. Story is why I play bioware games and inquisiton's non-fetch questing content is short as hell.

It wasn't their priority, and I had to turn to the witcher to get the kind of complex branching quests bioware once gave me.

I want to love dragon age again.

[PsychoBlonde]

I still love it, but even Origins never had "complex, branching" quests.  It had roughly the same number of big story quests as DA:I did, it's just that they were set up in such a way that you did a ton of smaller side quests AT THE SAME TIME.  They didn't take place in different areas, so the big quests felt GINORMOUS.

 

Here Lies the Abyss is--plot-wise--just a long as the whole Orzammar/Deep Roads plot.  Here's how they both play out:

 

HLTA:

 

1.  Go to Crestwood to meet The Warden

2.  Go to The Western Approach to find out what the Wardens are Up To

3.  Return to the War Table and launch your assault on Adamant Fortress

4.  Fight your way through Adamant Fortress

5.  Chase Clarel

6.  Clarel's Big Scene

7.  Now you're in the Fade

8.  Follow Justinia through the Fade to regain your memories

9.  Fight the Nightmare Demon

10. Figure out What To Do with the Wardens (granted, this is the ONLY point during ANY of this in which you really make a decision that has ANY impact on ANYTHING)

11.  Post-adventure Judgment

 

And in addition a good portion of your companions have follow-up comments on things such as "eh, those wardens, they're stupid" or "geez, the Fade, srsly?"  Now compare that with:

 

1.  Arrive at Orzammar

2.  Find out that you'll have to support either Bhelen or Harrowmont for the throne before you can get any troops.

3.  Do a preliminary quest that gets you in to see either B or H

4.  Agree to help either B or H (first choice point--but you can contradict it later so it doesn't really matter)

5.  Meet Oghren, agree to help or not help him find Branka (second choice point, IIRC determines whether you can later recruit Oghren or not)

6.  Buncha deep roads crap culminating in you fighting the Broodmother (all off-plot)

7.  Meet Branka, get sent to find the Anvil

8.  Traps and Golems

9.  Meet Caradin and decide to help either him or Branka (major decision)

10.  Decide what to do with the anvil (major decision)

11.  Return to Orzammar and pick either Bhelen or Harrowmont. (major decision)

 

So, really, it's just as long and involved.  Granted, there are more choices, but apart from whether you recruit Oghren or not they affect nothing aside from epilogue slides.  There's just the equivalent of a DAI explore area sandwiched in there between steps 5 and 6 that you kinda at least have to WALK through even if you skip almost everything you can DO there.  Aside from Oghren and (possibly) Shale, though, your companions have almost nothing to say as follow-up.  When it's done, it's done.  There are no war table missions, no judgment, no nothing.

 

The best part of DAI for me was the early game and the character interactions.  There's just too much concentration of good story bits early on and a huge empty lag later with ginormous explore areas still left to do.

[Scofield]

I came late to both DA an ME series, by the time i got here all the games (apart fae ME3) had all there relevant dlc etc published, gotto admit i really dislike like buying vanilla games then waiting on dlc/expansions

 

Im hoping this game gets lot more DLC an not all of it is after the main game, im hoping future dlc opens new areas (obviously) but has complete enemy scaling so i can complete it whenever i want, be it start of a play through or end, right now i just rush main play through to get to jaws dlc

[Domiel Angelus]

I think they put a moratorium on real expansions after the 'failure' of Awakening. It didn't sell nearly as well as they hoped. 

[chance52]

That is a shame, I liked Awakening a lot.  Too bad it is still riddled with bugs. And I'd rather have a 'failure' like awakening than the short one off's that most games put out now. A mission like Omega was fun and all but hardly worth the price.  Skyrim had some decent sized expansions so at least not every company has abandoned expansions.

[Domiel Angelus]

That is a shame, I liked Awakening a lot.  Too bad it is still riddled with bugs. And I'd rather have a 'failure' like awakening than the short one off's that most games put out now. A mission like Omega was fun and all but hardly worth the price.  Skyrim had some decent sized expansions so at least not every company has abandoned expansions.

 

I was specifically referring to Bioware in the case of the moratorium on them. None of the recent titles have had what would be considered a 'real' expansion after Awakening. Its sad but I'm just hoping the next bit of DLC also fixes a bunch of the problems the game has currently

[SardaukarElite]

The best part of DAI for me was the early game and the character interactions.  There's just too much concentration of good story bits early on and a huge empty lag later with ginormous explore areas still left to do.

 

Pretty much. Stupid main plot aside when Inq hits its good story bits they're great. It just doesn't hit many after the halfway point, and the main plot is stupid.

 

I was specifically referring to Bioware in the case of the moratorium on them. None of the recent titles have had what would be considered a 'real' expansion after Awakening.

 

DA2 was supposed to but it, you know, tanked.

[PsychoBlonde]

I think they put a moratorium on real expansions after the 'failure' of Awakening. It didn't sell nearly as well as they hoped. 

 

That's NOT what the devs have said.  They had an expansion PLANNED for DA2 ("Exalted March"--they were actually TEASING it on social media) but they scrapped it in favor of starting work on DA:I right away.

[Sunnie]

Laidlaw did say that they have abandoned doing full Awakening style expansions in favor of smaller DLCs that are more manageable and take less time to develop.

[Gileadan]

That's NOT what the devs have said.  They had an expansion PLANNED for DA2 ("Exalted March"--they were actually TEASING it on social media) but they scrapped it in favor of starting work on DA:I right away.

It's been ages ago and I doubt I could dig it up again, but I remember a tweet stating that Exalted March was cancelled because retail had made it clear that they were not interested in stocking it.

 

Oops, I actually did find it... and remembered it wrong. It was about the DA2 Ultimate Edition. (I blame advancing age. Sorry.)

[MaxQuartiroli]

I think they put a moratorium on real expansions after the 'failure' of Awakening. It didn't sell nearly as well as they hoped. 

 

Probably because casual players (where for "casual" I mean "occasional") didn't buy it. I remember at those times there were at least 10 of my friends who bought DA:O. They weren't hardcore RPG players which liked to play everything related to a game, therefore when DA:A was out they had already moved on to other games, and I was the only one who was buying it.

 

The problem was that Awakening was also realized in a boxed version, so you had to consider not only the costs for development but also the costs for the distribution and this is probably why, after that, they decided to stop doing expansions, because the total cost of production was not worth it.

 

But who knows? Compared to 2010 they can rely more on digital distribuition. Now that they can create an expansion which can be available only in digital version, like a big DLC, maybe they have changed their minds.

[PsychoBlonde]

EA might actually be happy with a digital-only expansion they could use to further promote their digital platform.  It might be more acceptable than day-1 DLC . . . Origin-only digital expansion.