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[Cryos_Feron]

 

I often read that the QFE was their favourite engineer

 

But I am wondering, why that is, since the Paladin (although Sentinel) seems to do everything a little better.

 

I think that Snap Freeze easily "wins" against Cryo Blast.

With it you prime (... and damage!) way more targets - even through walls,

being able to let even shielded enemies explode - .... with double damage...

 

The only advantage of Cryo Blast is the slighly larger damage buff.

 

 

Needless to mention the other skills, such as Energy Drain, etc.  

some might even like and make use of the Paladin Shield.

 

Difference in Passives are negligible, I think.

 

 

So the only rational conclusion would be:

Those that prefer the QFE love the turret so much... ??

 

 

Based on my personal opinion, I can only assume that the reasons might rather be subjective:

For examle being tired of playing broken OP-characters

the sound and cheesyness of Cryo Blast

butt-advantage of the QFE

etc.

 

Or am I missing something with the QFE ?

[Indoctornated]

QFE is better balanced.

[Darth Volus]

Of course the Paladin is more powerful overall. He can do Cryo explosions himself on everything, he's more survivable with energy drain and he can tank some shots or knock away mooks with his shield. But snap cheese is cheap and a lot of people find it annoying. 

 

FemQuarian requires a bit more skill and positioning. Plus you can't really beat that bum-bum, that comes with soup, bananas and spinach. 

[TheNightSlasher]

I prefer Paladin b/c shield bonk.

[Kenny Bania]

QFE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paladin.

Fact.

[Indoctornated]

QFE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paladin.

Fact.

 

^ No, clearly another typical spam bot reply. But at least he's trying to blend in.

[Quarian Master Race]

If you just want to freeze combo stuff with 200% cooldown, than yeah, the Paladin's gonna do that a lot better (mostly because his snap cheeze is completely broken with bugs that are beneficial on top of it being a brokenly designed power in general). QFE's Cryo blast, on the other hand, is a better single (or multi with radius) target debuff (more range, faster casting animation and quite a bit higher damage bonus, as well as greater armor sundering), has a quite fast cooldown even at higher weapon weights, and the turret gives you CC and changes up the gameplay in an interesting manner, which is why I like putting medium to heavy weight weapons on my QFE most of the time. 

There's also the style points as you mentioned. QFE is sophisticated, sexy and enigmatic like all quarians.  Paladin is some lame human from a future rennisance fair who hasn't hit puberty yet judging by the voice, and runs around obnoxiously making irritating loud noises every 2 seconds. Basically, he's the kit equivalent of the archetypal racist 12 year old squeaker with a vuvuzela. Don't play him just on those grounds alone.

[Darth Volus]

^ Paladin hasn't hit puberty, but has a chain smoker voice. Seems legit 

[Deerber]

Hehe, I was in your shoes too, some years ago.

 

Then Fortack showed me the light that is the High Lord Claymore.

[Quarian Master Race]

^ Paladin hasn't hit puberty, but has a chain smoker voice. Seems legit 

He might sound different first person when you are playing him (which I would never do) but when he gets rekt (good) in my games I'm always confusing him for a vanilla human female.

[NuclearTech76]

I mean I love the FQE but this isn't a contest really, the Paladin is a killing machine all the way around. Snap Cheese is just too good a power. Primes, debuffs, and it's AOE. ED and Incinerate are nice as well and the Paladin melee is very viable as well and has synergy with the rest of his powers. FQE is a nice kit but it's just not on the scale of the Paladin which is probably one of the best engineers in the game if not the best. 

[Darth Volus]

He might sound different first person when you are playing him (which I would never do) but when he gets rekt (good) in my games I'm always confusing him for a vanilla human female.

 

Yeah, I know. Brotarian Brawler and the Cabal also sound weird with recycled/glitched effects 

[The NightMan Cometh]

If you don't choose her over him   something is very wrong with you.

[Darth Volus]

If you don't choose her over him   something is very wrong with you.

 

Hey. It's legal nation wide now 

[Quarian Master Race]

I don't think it's a very apt comparison given how irrevocably broken the Paladin's snap cheese is. On a lesser scale it's like saying the Destroyer is the best nuke all the things kit over the Merc or QME because of the missile glitch. +200% combo damage is retarded, and you can get it at rank 4 of the power no less, freeing up 11 points for whatever else you may want to do (melee or Energy drain DR, for example) to make the kit even more versatile.

[NuclearTech76]

As far as enjoyability, I prefer the FQE and play her more. But as far as efficiency it's not a contest. Snap freeze is probably the best AOE tech based power in the game. If it's not it's damn close. The FQE really has no AOE powers that prime in actually gameplay situations (I know Incinerate but even with radius it's really small and usually you're talking single target priming).

[Darth Volus]

The biggest problem with QFE is that Cryo Blast doesn't do direct damage on it's own. With Snap Freeze you can kill those pesky Phantoms through a wall and it can't be dodged. 

[NuclearTech76]

The biggest problem with QFE is that Cryo Blast doesn't do direct damage on it's own. With Snap freeze you can kill those pesky Phantoms through a wall

Yeah I forgot to mention that all of the FQE are clear LOS dependent, you can snap cheese through walls on the other hand. 

[Deerber]

You're all talking about what SF is superior to CB in, but you conveniently neglect to talk about what CB is superior to SF in.

 

The Paladin is a more efficient kit than the QFE, that's true, but it's definitely not as clearly cut as you guys make it out to be.

[Kenny Bania]

FYI, I'm adding the names of you Paladin fanboys and girls to the database.

[Darth Volus]

You're all talking about what SF is superior to CB in, but you conveniently neglect to talk about what CB is superior to SF in.

 

The Paladin is a more efficient kit than the QFE, that's true, but it's definitely not as clearly cut as you guys make it out to be.

 

CB has more range and a little faster cooldown, but can be dodged or simply hit walls and it's CC is nowhere near as good as SF as it doesn't stagger as well and doesn't hit as many mooks in one cast as SF. 

[Quarian Master Race]

You're all talking about what SF is superior to CB in, but you conveniently neglect to talk about what CB is superior to SF in.

 

The Paladin is a more efficient kit than the QFE, that's true, but it's definitely not as clearly cut as you guys make it out to be.

I mentioned that CB is a much better actual debuff (especially for weapons) due to its greater damage multiplier and armor sundering, range and much faster casting animation and a shorter cooldown (especially at higher weapon weights), rather than just a means to spam irritating and broken cryo combos at everything, but the latter seems to be the standard by which people are comparing the two kits.

Snap cheese is still a more effective power overall, but there are things cryo blast does better, and by extension ramifications on certain playing styles that the QFE is better at.

[RealKobeBean]

The Paladin is great without a decent weapon, but the FQE is equally solid with a good weapon. They are different kits in a lot of ways. One has boobs and a nice ass, so I'm going with the FQE. She never fails to impress me. I only use the Paladin for melee purposes these days.

[The NightMan Cometh]

I mainly use the Paladin once the Tech challenges are reset. His power challenge points get done very fast..including the combos challenge. Then I shelve him.  Her , I use for fun...plus she is one of my favorite characters.

[Deerber]

CB has more range and a little faster cooldown, but can be dodged or simply hit walls and it's CC is nowhere near as good as SF as it doesn't stagger as well and doesn't hit as many mooks in one cast as SF. 

 

If that's supposed to be an omni-comprehensive list of pros and cons to both powers, you happened to forget CB's biggest pro.

 

Also, 3 secs more on a 5 secs CD isn't "a little faster". It's almost double as fast.