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#26
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If that's supposed to be an omni-comprehensive list of pros and cons to both powers, you happened to forget CB's biggest pro.

 

Also, 3 secs more on a 5 secs CD isn't "a little faster". It's almost double as fast.

 

And what is CB's piggest (yeap, that's how it's spelled) pro oh sensei?  :P

 

P.S. If you have about 175-200% cd with both kits, the advantage of CB vs SF cooldown is about 1 second. So, yes you can spam it a little more, but since SF has a much better crowd control - 1 SF equals 2-3 CB's. 



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CB is better than SF as a debuffer. That's the ONLY thing in favor of QFE.

Everything else, the paladin is better. Better combos, better CQC, better melee. It's no comparison really, paladin is better than QFE regardless of personal preference.

 

I enjoy paladin a lot more because he's the only character that has a melee that can prime for a level 6 combo.


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There's also the style points as you mentioned. QFE is sophisticated, sexy and enigmatic like all quarians.  Paladin is some lame human from a future rennisance fair who hasn't hit puberty yet judging by the voice, and runs around obnoxiously making irritating loud noises every 2 seconds. Basically, he's the kit equivalent of the archetypal racist 12 year old squeaker. Don't play him just on those grounds alone.

 

You know I have a screen capture from that time we did a QFE+Paladin game...

 

Honestly though, playing the QFE (effectivally, anyway) does require a certain skill and finesse, and I just don't have it for that character. QMR over here, on the other hand, does. It is... impressive to watch. I kinda want to do a video capture and just follow you around sometimes.


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#29
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Paladin has got to be the most nonsensical of all the N7s. Or at the very least, he's sharing this dubious glory with Fury. He's a better engineer than both quarians(at least if we're talking the ability to produce tech combos, since he can produce all kind of tech combos by himself, which none of the quarians can, at least without appropriate ammo)... and he's a sentinel. Much like Fury, he has powers that make no sense on him... ED was salarian trademark(and before QMR bites my head away, we're talking MP only here) before he came along and I think AIU is the only other kit with SF. He has a pretty vanilla power(Incinerate) to trigger both of them... he just doesn't make a lick of sense!

 

Despite all of it, he's also my favourite N7. It's ever so much fun to troll phantoms and hunters by chilling them through the wall and them exploding them in storm of icy particles when they walk around the corner. I love trolling atlases and banshees by planting down my shield and absorbing their attacks... or simply returning it to them :D Boinking the goon with a fire shield and then exploding him with a followed SF... never gets old. And I really like his armor and voice... only the destroyer sounds more macho than paladin does.

 

Plus, he's an easy mode. Whatever you do, something is almost guaranteed to explode and I really like that!

 

The only attribute that QFE has over the paladin is her ass and honestly... I never really cared for jiggly bum-bums. More of an asari kind of guy myself.



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You know I have a screen capture from that time we did a QFE+Paladin game...

 

Honestly though, playing the QFE (effectivally, anyway) does require a certain skill and finesse, and I just don't have it for that character. QMR over here, on the other hand, does. It is... impressive to watch. I kinda want to do a video capture and just follow you around sometimes.

doesn't count. I have to put in headphones every time you play that guy or I'll rage, and thus can't hear sneaky enemies, subsequently git rekt, and waste time and nukes on raging at everything anyway.

However, as long as you continue to tolerate my ruthless arc grenade carpet bombing I guess I have no place to criticize your goddamn earshattering abomination :D .


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^ Paladin hasn't hit puberty, but has a chain smoker voice. Seems legit  :lol:

 

I think you were fooled by a Drell who dressed up as a Paladin.

 

 

Next time, pay attention to when he shield bonks banshee warps; if he times it wrong and screams "EIMWOONDED!" then you know it's not a real Paladin.


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I often read that the QFE was their favourite engineer
 
But I am wondering, why that is, since the Paladin (although Sentinel) seems to do everything a little better.
 
I think that Snap Freeze easily "wins" against Cryo Blast.
With it you prime (... and damage!) way more targets - even through walls,
being able to let even shielded enemies explode - .... with double damage...
 
The only advantage of Cryo Blast is the slighly larger damage buff.
 
 
Needless to mention the other skills, such as Energy Drain, etc.  
some might even like and make use of the Paladin Shield.
 
Difference in Passives are negligible, I think.
 
 
So the only rational conclusion would be:
Those that prefer the QFE love the turret so much... ??
 
 
Based on my personal opinion, I can only assume that the reasons might rather be subjective:
For examle being tired of playing broken OP-characters
the sound and cheesyness of Cryo Blast
butt-advantage of the QFE
etc.
 
Or am I missing something with the QFE ?

 

 

You aren't missing anything unless you really like rocket turret



#33
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In terms of overall effectiveness, the optimal Paladin setup >>>> the optimal QFE setup.  QFE is better as a weapons class though.



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 ED was salarian trademark(and before QMR bites my head away, we're talking MP only here) 

 

The only attribute that QFE has over the paladin is her ass

fite me IRL babby.


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fite me IRL babby.

^^^ This.



#36
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fite me IRL babby.

 

What, coughing on you? :P


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Me no numbers much but FQE seems to be better for stacking freeze combo incinerates and debuffed cheesing. The latter is cheap but so is snap freeze rank 4.



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Objectively the Paladin is better, but like others have mentioned it's mainly because of how broken snap freeze is. All the cool kids know that QFE is where it's at.



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What, coughing on you? :P

You're not turian Punisher. A fever isn't going to stop me from rekting you. Meet me here.

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#40
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There is no comparison. The Paladin owns that wide ass! He has a bitchsmack for a reason!

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...and waste time and nukes on raging at everything anyway.


I... I thought "nukes and raging at everything" was kind of your thing!
 

However, as long as you continue to tolerate my ruthless arc grenade carpet bombing I guess I have no place to criticize your goddamn earshattering abomination :D .


"Uh oh, Duke's going grenade-spam. I guess I'll try and shoot stuff before the grenades hit to see if I can get some assist points..."



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I... I thought "nukes and raging at everything" was kind of your thing!

It is. However there's a difference between

QMR[missile launcher] geth prime
QMR[missile launcher] geth prime
QMR[missile launcher] combat drone
QMR[missile launcher] geth hunter
QMR[missile launcher] geth hunter
QMR[missile launcher] geth rocket trooper

and
*squadmember down*
QMR[missile launcher] combat drone

has left the game
has joined the game

[missilemissilemissilemissilemissilemissilemissilemissilemissile] all the things


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#43
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There is no comparison. The Paladin owns that wide ass! He has a bitchsmack for a reason!

No. He has bitchvoice when he gets rekt for a reason. :devil:



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It is. However there's a difference between

QMR[missile launcher] geth prime
QMR[missile launcher] geth prime
QMR[missile launcher] combat drone
QMR[missile launcher] geth hunter
QMR[missile launcher] geth hunter
QMR[missile launcher] geth rocket trooper

and
*squadmember down*
QMR[missile launcher] combat drone

has left the game
has joined the game

[missilemissilemissilemissilemissilemissilemissilemissilemissile] all the things

 
My absolute favourite is still, and always will be:
 

  • QMR was taken down by Marauder
  • SterlingPhoenix shoots Marauder
  • QMR rage-gel
  • QMR rage-rocket dead Marauder twice.

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My absolute favourite is still, and always will be:
 

  • QMR was taken down by Marauder
  • SterlingPhoenix shoots Marauder
  • QMR rage-gel
  • QMR rage-rocket dead Marauder twice.

 

If he didn't want to get rekt he shouldn't have lag-elbowed me from meters away (probably).

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#46
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There's not even a match between the Paladin and the QFE, the former is largely superior to the later. The Paladin isn't praised in BSN because he's easy to play, in other words he can perform well even in the hands of a player with a bad / average aim. Other reasons for the QFE to be often prefered here over the Paladin :

 

-Bums bums ;

-Synergizes well with the Claymore;

-One BSNer is known for hating Snap Freeze. An other one to consider that anything quarian is better than anything else (inb4 But it's true !).


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There's not even a match between the Paladin and the QFE, the former is largely superior to the later. The Paladin isn't praised in BSN because he's easy to play, in other words he can perform well even in the hands of a player with a bad / average aim. Other reasons for the QFE to be often prefered here over the Paladin :

 

-Bums bums ;

-Synergizes well with the Claymore;

-One BSNer is known for hating Snap Freeze. An other one to consider that anything quarian is better than anything else (inb4 But it's true !).

Only one? :lol:


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#49
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Only one? :lol:

Probably not !  :lol: But the one I'm talking about (who will remain unnamed, of course) is known to leave lobbies when a Snap Freeze user is in.


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And what is CB's piggest (yeap, that's how it's spelled) pro oh sensei?  :P

 

P.S. If you have about 175-200% cd with both kits, the advantage of CB vs SF cooldown is about 1 second. So, yes you can spam it a little more, but since SF has a much better crowd control - 1 SF equals 2-3 CB's. 

 

You know very well what it is, so I'm not even bothering :P

 

As for the second part, 1 second more on a 1.x second CD is still almost twice as fast. CD bonus doesn't change that at all, except that who in the bloody hell is gonna run a QFE with 200% CD? You run it with 0% and you still use CB more than the paladin uses SF, while at the same time packing a real gun. Also the fact that SF has much better crowd control so it equals 2-3 CBs is completely senseless, as I hope you already realized before posting. It would make sense if the only thing you used those powers for is crowd control... Which isn't the case.

 

 

Overall, the number of posts in this thread saying that the paladin is way more powerful than the QFE only tells me that she is a difficult kit to master, and that most of the players, even on bsn, have never witnessed a properly played one.