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[The Arbiter]

i saw a rummor,the man wearing N7 armor in the trailer is Shepard.

 

& i guess,

we play as some one under his command,& Shepard tell you do this do that.

 

or

Shepard is not the main character,so maybe we still see him in ME:A,for just few scene only.

Sorry man the new game will not be having cameos or anyone from the past trilogy at all since Bioware literally wrote themselves into a corner, no choice but to scrap everything / handwaive everything and go exploring like Dora the explorer for no apparent reason. 

[dreamgazer]

It's CloneShep on a path to redemption following his/her follies in the Citadel DLC. Never saw the body, didya? 

 

If some clandestine group (associated with the Council or not) can cook up a BS way to get to Andromeda in three years, then they could easily fetch the clone.

 

[Steppenwolf]

It's CloneShep on a path to redemption following his/her follies in the Citadel DLC. Never saw the body, didya? 
 
If some clandestine group (associated with the Council or not) can cook up a BS way to get to Andromeda in three years, then they could easily fetch the clone.
 

No no no, the clone did die but Cerberus got it's body and brought it back to life. They already worked out the kinks with Shepard so they had the clone back on it's feet in no time.

[Shepard-Tali]

I saw a rummor that it's Conrad Verner.

[Halfdan The Menace]

It's about as likely Conrad Verner as it is Shepard. I'm sure there are plenty of N7:s to choose from. In the game in addition to Shepard atleast Anderson, Kai Leng and James Vega have been (or will be) N7:s.

I don't know why people always think of Shep when they saw the N7 logo. But I doubt it's Conrad, since he can die in an accident/trying to save Shep from the Cerberus agent.

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

The only characters that are sure to return in some way are Liara, Garrus and Wrex. Their races live for hundreds of years anyway, so a cameo from them is almost taken from granted. But Shepard, the other humans and Tali? They probably die betheen ME3 and Andromeda or show up probably in a retirement house or something. Humans live 150 years tops in the ME universe, and Shepard and the others were at the middle 30s already. So no, he/she is not the N7 person in the trailer, he would not be fit for duty, give the old commander a break lol

[KaiserShep]

Turians have a similar life span to humans, so Garrus wouldn't make it that far if the setting is hundreds of even over a thousand years from the ME trilogy timeline.

[DaemionMoadrin]

The only characters that are sure to return in some way are Liara, Garrus and Wrex. Their races live for hundreds of years anyway, so a cameo from them is almost taken from granted. But Shepard, the other humans and Tali? They probably die betheen ME3 and Andromeda or show up probably in a retirement house or something. Humans live 150 years tops in the ME universe, and Shepard and the others were at the middle 30s already. So no, he/she is not the N7 person in the trailer, he would not be fit for duty, give the old commander a break lol

 

Liara, Garrus and Wrex can all die during the trilogy. Hell, Garrus or Wrex can be completely ignored in ME1, never recruited at all.

 

So there is absolutely no way they could be in ME:A because that would mean BioWare imposed a canon on the trilogy, something they repeatedly said they wouldn't do.

[von uber]

They can all be dead, so technically any recurring character means that a low EMS destroy playthrough is not canon. And as people like to harp on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and and on and on and on and ****** on in this place, there is no canon - which is why we are posting in a forum called Mass ****** Effect ****** Andromeda.

 

 

Edit: damn you DaemionMoadrin!

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

Turians have a similar life span to humans, so Garrus wouldn't make it that far if the setting is hundreds of even over a thousand years from the ME trilogy timeline.

I didn't remember that, sorry. But Liara is almost taken for granted, since bioware done everything to push her as the deflaut L.A. I know that there's no deflaut or cannon, but she is the only one that can be romanced in the 3 games, had a dlc completely centered on her and saved Shepard from the shadow broker. So I'm pretty sure she will return as a matriarch and extremely powerful, she is shadow broker after all. And the only way she can dies is the low EMS ending that I'm pretty sure will be ignored. And Wrex is a fan favorite, he will show up as a cameo too if he survived, Grunt too. That said, I would like some closure in the rest of the characters. Maybe they could do a codex entry saying what happened to them? Or some char that are their grandsons or something?

[DaemionMoadrin]

I didn't remember that, sorry. But Liara is almost taken for granted, since bioware done everything to push her as the deflaut L.A. I know that there's no deflaut or cannon, but she is the only one that can be romanced in the 3 games, had a dlc completely centered on her and saved Shepard from the shadow broker. So I'm pretty sure she will return as a matriarch and extremely powerful, she is shadow broker after all. And the only way she can dies is the low EMS ending that I'm pretty sure will be ignored. And Wrex is a fan favorite, he will show up as a cameo too if he survived, Grunt too. That said, I would like some closure in the rest of the characters. Maybe they could do a codex entry saying what happened to them? Or some char that are their grandsons or something?

 

You are wrong.

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

You are wrong.

You are a man (or woman) of few words aren't you? If you are worried about them showing in your playtrough, then don't. If they show up, they will be cameos. And bioware's cameos are well executed. Did wrex even show up in your playtrough of ME 2 and 3? It will be the same thing, we will get wrex, you will get Wreav or some other random krogan. As for Liara, she becomes the shadow broker with or without Shepard's interference, so she will be the powerful shadow broker matriarch, like it or not.

[DaemionMoadrin]

You are a man (or woman) of few words aren't you? If you are worried about them showing in your playtrough, then don't. If they show up, they will be cameos. And bioware's cameos are well executed. Did wrex even show up in your playtrough of ME 2 and 3? It will be the same thing, we will get wrex, you will get Wreav or some other random krogan. As for Liara, she becomes the shadow broker with or without Shepard's interference, so she will be the powerful shadow broker matriarch, like it or not.

 

No, you are fundamentally wrong. As in you didn't grasp the underlying principle of ME:A. It plays far in the future, in another galaxy. It is as disconnected from the trilogy as possible. If you get some codex entries about The Shepard and their crew, then that's quite a lot already. Cameos? No chance in hell.

 

I already explained it earlier: Anyone has the potential to die, so no one can show up in a game that won't impose a canon on the trilogy. To make everything possible we can't involve a lot of the things that happened.

 

Please get your facts right. Everybody can die. Refusal ending, the entire galaxy gets harvested, the Reapers win... and then the next cycle defeats the Reapers with the help of Liara's data caches. High or low EMS doesn't matter.

Even if we ignore that big fact, the only companions still alive in the future would be Liara, Grunt and EDI. Everyone else lacks the long lifespan or is too old already. EDI has a 50% chance to be dead (Refusal and Destroy), so that's another strike. If the future is more than a thousand years then no one is alive, no matter which ending.

If everyone died, then they have no kids either.

 

Now we saw a N7 character in the trailer and know our PC will be human. To me that means the only logical way of this happening with all possible endings is if they left for Andromeda before the finale in ME3. No matter what happened in the Milky Way, they don't know and maybe can't go back. They are on their own in a new galaxy. And since it happened before the finale, no one we know can be in Andromeda now. Certaintly not their kids.

 

Otherwise BioWare would have to **** up their game right from the start just to pander to the fans and squeeze in cameos. I know they never cared all that much about logic, plot holes and consistency in the past so there is a tiny, tiny chance you'll get your wish. At the cost of a potentially great game that will ****** away that potential for cheap feelings. I definitely hope BioWare learned from past mistakes and won't do that.

[Suron]

You are a man (or woman) of few words aren't you? If you are worried about them showing in your playtrough, then don't. If they show up, they will be cameos. And bioware's cameos are well executed. Did wrex even show up in your playtrough of ME 2 and 3? It will be the same thing, we will get wrex, you will get Wreav or some other random krogan. As for Liara, she becomes the shadow broker with or without Shepard's interference, so she will be the powerful shadow broker matriarch, like it or not.

He's right.  You're wrong.  As he said.

 

There will be NO "canon" endings.  That's the ENTIRE PURPOSE of them going to Andromeda.  If they were going to "canonize" an ending they'd of stayed in the Milky Way. 

 

The only chance Liara has to show up is if she's either in a flashback or on some recorded device that was recorded PRIOR to the end of ME3.

 

Having Liara definitely alive "canonizes" several things.  Which again.  They already said they weren't going to do.

 

So, again...no You are in fact wrong.  There isn't going to be any importing and the entire reason for going to Andromeda and setting it far in the future is to completely alienate itself from ME1-3.

 

Seriously, just stop.

[dreamgazer]

The only chance Liara has to show up is if she's either in a flashback or on some recorded device that was recorded PRIOR to the end of ME3.

Don't really care about the rest of the discussion, but this actually brings up an interesting point.

I wonder if a copy of Liara's information capsule will accompany the Andromeda travelers. Probably so, actually.

[shodiswe]

It's about as likely Conrad Verner as it is Shepard. I'm sure there are plenty of N7:s to choose from. In the game in addition to Shepard atleast Anderson, Kai Leng and James Vega have been (or will be) N7:s.

@satunnainen
There we have it! Conrad Verner! We will be playing as Dr Conrad Verner! If you want to play as a female, you get to play as Ms Conradina Verner who made a sexchange!

Really, he was a darkenery researcher, and he was on the Citadel for some kind of work, he wasn't a refugee. And he was behaving like a crazy again who wanted to pretend he could be a real hero...
Or possibly... if we want to play a female, we get to play his new girlfriend....

Maybe not... sounded better in my mind at first... But he seems like the type of person to work on new intergalactic Engines. His work was something new that other people didn't Believe in, until he could prove his work by showing it was already being used by salvaged Protean tech.

I wouldn't be surprised if Conrad showed up as a Cameo who helped fix the new drive.. He commes along just Before the Asari councilor has to consider the future, and then he dissapears soon after. He's just passing by.


OH! WOW! You're "NEWPROTAGONIST", can I have your autograph?

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

It's being rude a requirement to be a part of these forums? Like seriously?

 

No, I'm not saying this because I must have them in my game. I'm saying because the topic subject, the N7 guy from the trailer.

But I see your point. We will just have to wait and see how bioware will warp up the "how do we get to andromeda" question. Because the codex entries in the trilogy pretty much made clear there was no technology for this kind of travel. So yeah, I find it quite improbable the new PC's space travel happens prior the end of ME3. And the plot pretty much says that they are trying to find a new home for humanity, and from that, I take there's a viable, practical way for taking humanity to andromeda. Probably a dormant relay or something, since the only alternatively would be FTL drive, and that trip would take thousands of years. I suppose I can see taking two or three humans trough stasis pods in FTL travel, but that would be - like Mordin would say - problematic.

They would need to discharge the drive core, they would be "cooked" inside the ship if they don't, and that requires landing from what I remember. 

And  enough humans to sustain a viable population? Imagine the insane resources that would be needed for a trip like that!

So, unless they change the plot premise they already gave us, I fear they will have to address the endings, one way or another.

[mickey111]

hahahahaha. no.

[LinksOcarina]

See, I bet its someone like Major Coats.

 

There is no way in hell a character introduced in a teaser trailer, and has a specific voice actor in Nick Boulton, is going to be a minor character in just one game. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

 

It's being rude a requirement to be a part of these forums? Like seriously?

 

No, I'm not saying this because I must have them in my game. I'm saying because the topic subject, the N7 guy from the trailer.

But I see your point. We will just have to wait and see how bioware will warp up the "how do we get to andromeda" question. Because the codex entries in the trilogy pretty much made clear there was no technology for this kind of travel. So yeah, I find it quite improbable the new PC's space travel happens prior the end of ME3. And the plot pretty much says that they are trying to find a new home for humanity, and from that, I take there's a viable, practical way for taking humanity to andromeda. Probably a dormant relay or something, since the only alternatively would be FTL drive, and that trip would take thousands of years. I suppose I can see taking two or three humans trough stasis pods in FTL travel, but that would be - like Mordin would say - problematic.

They would need to discharge the drive core, they would be "cooked" inside the ship if they don't, and that requires landing from what I remember. 

And  enough humans to sustain a viable population? Imagine the insane resources that would be needed for a trip like that!

So, unless they change the plot premise they already gave us, I fear they will have to address the endings, one way or another.

 

 

The travel would take about 300 years using Reaper tech which also eliminates the problem of discharging the drive core. During all the time the Crucible was being built, maybe someone built a new ship with Reaper tech? Hopefully no actual Reaper parts though cause Indoctrination is complete nonsense and we certaintly don't need that again. :>

 

My money is on wormhole travel though, it's a staple of sci-fi and works quite well as a narrative device.

 

The other option would be to set everything thousands of years into the future, to explain the technology... but then we wouldn't have N7s wielding a Carnifex and we'd have the problem of the multiple endings.

[KaiserShep]

I hope the masked man is Chuck Testa.

[Kelwing]

I'm under the impression that ME:A takes place about the time period of ME2. Maybe mid to late game, time wise. Some uber secret mission to send ships out of the Milky Way with some new found tech the lets them travel to another galaxy. A contingency plan.

 

Run from the Reapers and save as many as possible in a galaxy far far away . Nothing from ME3 would matter as it hasn't happened yet.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I believe this game also happens a long time after ME so most likely Shepard is dead no matter what.

 

Unless as a byproduct of being outfitted with cybernetics combined with understanding of Reaper tech regarding bio-tech longevity, Shepard (and numerous other characters) are functionally immortal.

 

That wouldn't surprise me at all. If they ever go back to Shepard & friends (and I am still pretty sure that they eventually will), that'll be an easy way to explain it.

[KaiserShep]

I'm under the impression that ME:A takes place about the time period of ME2. Maybe mid to late game, time wise. Some uber secret mission to send ships out of the Milky Way with some new found tech the lets them travel to another galaxy. A contingency plan.

 

Run from the Reapers and save as many as possible in a galaxy far far away   . Nothing from ME3 would matter as it hasn't happened yet.

 

 

They were hella low key about it. So low in fact that not even the yagh broker had even a hint of any major collaborative efforts. Though, a bigger problem I have with this is that they somehow hoarded such fantastical technology that could even get them to Andromeda in the first place. Unless it's a super magical unicorn slingshot powered by the infinite improbability drive, even if they left before the events of ME1, the entire reaper war would have still come and gone by the time they get there. 

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

The travel would take about 300 years using Reaper tech which also eliminates the problem of discharging the drive core. During all the time the Crucible was being built, maybe someone built a new ship with Reaper tech? Hopefully no actual Reaper parts though cause Indoctrination is complete nonsense and we certaintly don't need that again. :>

My money is on wormhole travel though, it's a staple of sci-fi and works quite well as a narrative device.

The other option would be to set everything thousands of years into the future, to explain the technology... but then we wouldn't have N7s wielding a Carnifex and we'd have the problem of the multiple endings.

I doubt a ship with reaper tech could be made during the events of the trilogy. Everyone that tried to mess with it ended up indoctrinated, we all know that. But I like the wormhole thing, even if is overused.

Well, if they are really cutting ties with the milky way and will indeed continue with the "new home for humanity" plotline, then they better come up with a way of taking at least 20 people and make it clear they have no way of coming back. This wouldn't be such a mess if they simple made only the high EMS RGB endings cannon and move on with the series from there. But we will see how (and if) they will get away with it.