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[maia0407]

I've been reading the leaks and, if true, we're only getting two major story DLCs for DAI? As I understand it, the two DLCs are Jaws of Hakkon, an upcoming story DLC and that's all folks. That's it for story? All the ME an DA games have had at least 3 major DLCs. Why so few for this game?

[Pokemario]

I don't think so.

 

They've already recorded 5 new bard songs and Leliana's VA was called to record new lines a month ago. I doubt they'd do that before sending the polls to see if people would have been interested in that DLC.

[Andrew Waples]

well there is a teased/rumored (by bioware) deep roads dlc. Whether or not that involves the leak is unclear. I'd rather have quality over quantity any day of the week. Remember they have to develope for 5 platforms versus just 3 with the last gen hardware.

[ReadingRambo220]

I was also disappointed that the leak says it will be the finale for the game. The game is so open world it seems like they could plug in a lot of stuff.

That said, I'm hoping the next installment of DA has better controls and combat. DAI would have been perfect if they had replicated Origins or DA 2 tactical style of combat. I really miss the tactics system.

[Heimdall]

The leak says that the DLC it describes will be the last DLC.

 

It does NOT say that it will be the NEXT DLC.

[Arakat]

The leak says that the DLC it describes will be the last DLC.

 

It does NOT say that it will be the NEXT DLC.

 

Yeah, judging from the previous survey leaks, it seems these surveys are sent out fairly early in development.

[Nube7]

A recent tweet by Mark D said that we'll be getting the new dlc announcement "soon", so we could expect news as early as tomorrow since Bioware is attending a con i believe in Montreal. So if the survey is legit, we may even have up to two campaign dlcs before that, we'll see. *Excited*

[Lazarillo]

If you don't count the full on "expansion pack" that was Awakening, DAO and DA2 only had two story DLCs each as well.  Origins had Return to Ostagar and Warden's Keep, and DA2 had Legacy and Mark of the Assassin.  Granted, they both did have other non-story DLC: companions, side stories (for Origins), and item packs were all available.  But honestly I don't think it would be too incredibly surprising if there's only one more "story" DLC after JoH (which, admittedly, I still haven't felt too compelled to play yet anyway, as it sound pretty light on story, for a story DLC).

[Heimdall]

@Lazarillo

 

Forgetting Witch Hunt and Golems of Amgarrak?

[Majestic Jazz]

I've been reading the leaks and, if true, we're only getting two major story DLCs for DAI? As I understand it, the two DLCs are Jaws of Hakkon, an upcoming story DLC and that's all folks. That's it for story? All the ME an DA games have had at least 3 major DLCs. Why so few for this game?

DAI does not have a strong post release reputation, especially with Witcher 3 now out and the assumption that whatever story DLC Bioware puts out for DAI, it will have to compete with the 2 big expansions for TW3.

It is best that Bioware just moves resources to ME:A and DA4.

[Lazarillo]

@Lazarillo

 

Forgetting Witch Hunt and Golems of Amgarrak?

 

I remembered Witch Hunt, but for some reason my brain associated it with Leliana's Song, so I was thinking of it as a "side story" (even though, in retrospect, it really isn't).  And yeah, I forgot Golems completely, though in my defense, it's pretty darn forgettable.

[midnight tea]

The leak says that the DLC it describes will be the last DLC.

 

It does NOT say that it will be the NEXT DLC.

 

Actually, the leak says that it will be "the last adventure with your team"... not necessarily the last adventure of Inquisitor or Inquisition.

 

 

 

DAI does not have a strong post release reputation, especially with Witcher 3 now out and the assumption that whatever story DLC Bioware puts out for DAI, it will have to compete with the 2 big expansions for TW3.

 

It doesn't have a strong post-release reputation only in heads of those who prefer to believe it that way.

 

In any case - expansions for TW3 will be unable to compete with (what they seemingly) plan for DAI in terms of story scope. The story for the Witcher is pretty much DONE: Geralt and his foster daughter

Spoiler

have basically saved the multiverse and - if player played the cards right - ensured happily-ever-after for themselves.

Therefore, at best, we'll get long-ish, more personal quests or extended Witcher contracts with these expansions for TW3.

 

At the same time the story for Inquisition - not just Dragonage - isn't done yet. And if the leaked survey says anything true, this will be a must-buy for either conclusion for Inquisition or hints for what will happen in DA4.

[Heimdall]

@midnight tea

 

Well, yeah, but it probably means the last DLC unless they do a Witch Hunt style entry with totally new companions.  I suppose they could do that, but the whole tone of the description was rather "conclusive".

[maia0407]

I hope we get at least two more major story DLCs. Some of the replies give me hope.

 

If you don't count the full on "expansion pack" that was Awakening, DAO and DA2 only had two story DLCs each as well.  Origins had Return to Ostagar and Warden's Keep, and DA2 had Legacy and Mark of the Assassin.  Granted, they both did have other non-story DLC: companions, side stories (for Origins), and item packs were all available.  But honestly I don't think it would be too incredibly surprising if there's only one more "story" DLC after JoH (which, admittedly, I still haven't felt too compelled to play yet anyway, as it sound pretty light on story, for a story DLC).

 

I'm counting the expansion pack for DAO as that added more story content. I'm also counting the DA2's DLC for Sebastian for the same reason. I'm just really hoping to get a lot more story out of DAI. 

[Thibax]

I want to know about the dlcs, but Bioware, my love, doesn't tell me.

 

Sweet, where are you?

[Toasted Llama]

I really don't like it when people start to take leaked informations or surveys as truth before any official word is out.

If I'm not mistaken the devs had been hinting at a Deep Roads DLC, an area that remained unmentioned in the leaked survey. So it's the word of the devs hinting at x versus an as of yet unconfirmed rumor/leaked survey.

So my advice: don't take the leaked survey for the cold hard truth and wait for the next announcement of DLC content.

[Heimdall]

I really don't like it when people start to take leaked informations or surveys as truth before any official word is out.
If I'm not mistaken the devs had been hinting at a Deep Roads DLC, an area that remained unmentioned in the leaked survey. So it's the word of the devs hinting at x versus an as of yet unconfirmed rumor/leaked survey.

So my advice: don't take the leaked survey for the cold hard truth and wait for the next announcement of DLC content.

Several posters have claimed to have received this survey, it deserves some consideration.

[Majestic Jazz]

Actually, the leak says that it will be "the last adventure with your team"... not necessarily the last adventure of Inquisitor or Inquisition.



It doesn't have a strong post-release reputation only in heads of those who prefer to believe it that way.

In any case - expansions for TW3 will be unable to compete with (what they seemingly) plan for DAI in terms of story scope. The story for the Witcher is pretty much DONE: Geralt and his foster daughter

Spoiler

have basically saved the multiverse and - if player played the cards right - ensured happily-ever-after for themselves.

Therefore, at best, we'll get long-ish, more personal quests or extended Witcher contracts with these expansions for TW3.

At the same time the story for Inquisition - not just Dragonage - isn't done yet. And if the leaked survey says anything true, this will be a must-buy for either conclusion for Inquisition or hints for what will happen in DA4.

TW3 has sold more copies than DAI and has a higher media review score and user review score on Metacritic.

Also you have Fallout 4 around the corner. When DAI came out, there was not AAA WRPG to content with but now there is 2 and one is already outselling DAI and I expect Fallout 4 to double or even triple what DAI sold. DAI is a success for Bioware but not an industry success in comparison to TW3. I just do not see Bioware putting ALOT of money into the post release of DAI. Bioware will release one last story DLC and I am sure it will be a nice one, way better than the previous one. However, if you think that Bioware will still continue to support DAI with more DLC beyond that, then you are just living in lala land. After this DLC, which will be their last, the team will move focus to Dragon Age 4 or move some employees over to Mass Effect: Andromeda.

People wanted to dismiss the survey about DAI before it came out it much of the stuff was true. People wanted to dismiss the survey about ME4 before E3 and it is shaping up to be true. Now people are wanting to dismiss this survey about the DLC.

Get it in your head, DAI will not have the longevity that DAO had. DAI came out when there was no RPG competition and now they have hard competition in TW3 and Fallout 4, both with larger fanbases than DAI. Buoware will just move into DA4 just like they didnt go through with the DA2 expansion and moved onto DAI.

[Heimdall]

TW3 has sold more copies than DAI and has a higher media review score and user review score on Metacritic.

Also you have Fallout 4 around the corner. When DAI came out, there was not AAA WRPG to content with but now there is 2 and one is already outselling DAI and I expect Fallout 4 to double or even triple what DAI sold. DAI is a success for Bioware but not an industry success in comparison to TW3. I just do not see Bioware putting ALOT of money into the post release of DAI. Bioware will release one last story DLC and I am sure it will be a nice one, way better than the previous one. However, if you think that Bioware will still continue to support DAI with more DLC beyond that, then you are just living in lala land. After this DLC, which will be their last, the team will move focus to Dragon Age 4 or move some employees over to Mass Effect: Andromeda.

People wanted to dismiss the survey about DAI before it came out it much of the stuff was true. People wanted to dismiss the survey about ME4 before E3 and it is shaping up to be true. Now people are wanting to dismiss this survey about the DLC.

Get it in your head, DAI will not have the longevity that DAO had. DAI came out when there was no RPG competition and now they have hard competition in TW3 and Fallout 4, both with larger fanbases than DAI. Buoware will just move into DA4 just like they didnt go through with the DA2 expansion and moved onto DAI.

Shall I point out that we EA has released no sales numbers for DAI? You seem to be assuming DAI's failure when all indication from EA indicates a strong success. Success they will continue to milk.

[midnight tea]

TW3 has sold more copies than DAI and has a higher media review score and user review score on Metacritic.

Also you have Fallout 4 around the corner. When DAI came out, there was not AAA WRPG to content with but now there is 2 and one is already outselling DAI and I expect Fallout 4 to double or even triple what DAI sold. DAI is a success for Bioware but not an industry success in comparison to TW3. I just do not see Bioware putting ALOT of money into the post release of DAI. Bioware will release one last story DLC and I am sure it will be a nice one, way better than the previous one. However, if you think that Bioware will still continue to support DAI with more DLC beyond that, then you are just living in lala pand. After this DLC, which will be their last, the team will move focus to Dragon Age 4 or move some employees over to Mass Effect: Andromeda.

 

Both titles sold really well (based on physical copy sale estimates people made DAI sold more than 3.5 million copies - and that's not taking into account digital downloads, and those apparently sold really well too, according to EA) and both got high praise, so I'm not sure why you're trying to spin it as if DAI is a big loser here.

 

Also - what Fallout has to do with anything? Not only it's going to be released in November (and if BW sticks to releasing something every 3-4 months, they'll be able to release 2 DLCs of some sort prior to Fallout release), it's also not a fantasy RPG, like DA or Witcher. In fact, seems that there would be a shortage of those for a while AAA game-wise, so every new DLC or expansion for those would likely be welcome.

[o Ventus]

I've been reading the leaks and, if true, we're only getting two major story DLCs for DAI? As I understand it, the two DLCs are Jaws of Hakkon, an upcoming story DLC and that's all folks. That's it for story? All the ME an DA games have had at least 3 major DLCs. Why so few for this game?

ME1 had Bring Down the Sky and Pinnacle Station, 2 DLCs. DA2 had Mark of the Assassin and Legacy, 2 DLCs.

[Majestic Jazz]

Both titles sold really well (based on physical copy sale estimates people made DAI sold more than 3.5 million copies - and that's not taking into account digital downloads, which apparently sold really well, according to EA) and both got high praise, so I'm not sure why you're trying to spin it as if DAI is a big loser here.

 

Also - what Fallout has to do with anything? Not only it's going to be released in November (and if BW sticks to releasing something every 3-4 months it'll be able to release 2 DLCs of some sort prior to Fallout release), it's also not a fantasy RPG, like DA or Witcher. In fact, seems that there would be a shortage of those for a while AAA game-wise, so every new DLC or expansion for those would likely be welcome.

 

I am not trying to paint DAI as a failure. As I said, it was a success by EA's estimates and got many 2014 GOTY awards. DAI is FAR from a failure. It was the only 2014 AAA game that really delivered. 

 

I am just saying that now with Witcher 4 out and has sold more than DAI as well as a more positive word of mouth going on as opposed to DAI where people are split  (such as those saying DAI is full of fetch quest and the lack of cutscenes), I just do not see Bioware putting a lot of money into the post release lifecycle of this game. If anything, this next (and last) DLC for DAI will come out this fall/holiday season. IF there were another story DLC for DAI, it would most likely come out around spring 2016, which is near the time the 20-hour Witcher 3 expansion is supposed to come out. Given the gaming community debate between DAI and TW3 (Whether your not you think the comparison is justified, many gamers are making the comparison, especially in the realm of side quest) it would be interesting to see a DAI expansion go up against a TW3 expansion, but I doubt EA will go that route. By the time early 2016 starts, EA would want to shift marketing money and human resources towards ME:A and the remaining people over to DA4 or the new IP. Holding onto DAI does not really serve any purpose. Again, it did well for EA but lets be honest, it isn't like the game has sold 5+ million units and is seen as the vanguard for current gen RPGs. I mean really, lets get serious here.

 

Personally I wouldn't mind more story DLC for DAI because I need a reason to get back into DAI as to me, vanilla DAI was just terrible with its fetch quest, monotone protagonist, laughable villain, and minimal cutscenes. I wish the DA franchise the best but going forward, DAI story DLC will have a tougher market to compete in. Many of the people of bought DAI last November has thus moved onto games like TW3 without any plans of buying any further DAI content or either focusing attention to Fallout 4 (Remember, when DAI came out, there were no other next gen WRPGs to play so thus DAI satisfied that market, but now that market has more options).

 

We shall see, but do not be surprised if this upcoming story DLC is the LAST story DLC for DAI and Bioware just pulls the plug on DAI and moves forward with DA4 development. 

[Sunnie]

I am not trying to paint DAI as a failure. As I said, it was a success by EA's estimates and got many 2014 GOTY awards. DAI is FAR from a failure. It was the only 2014 AAA game that really delivered. 
 
I am just saying that now with Witcher *3 out and has sold more than DAI

So where are you getting this from, since EA has not released any sales figures for the game? I hope it's not VGChartz, most of those numbers are asspull from a very small sample base.

[Andraste_Reborn]

My bet is still on three single player, story-based DLCs in total - Jaws of Haakon, plus one releasing this month that's probably about the Deep Roads in some way, and one around October/November to wrap things up that involves at least some of the stuff in the survey. (Not sure why we'd be fighting the Qunari and looking for Solas at the same time, but maybe it makes sense in context.)

 

That's the same number that ME3 got, and the same number that were initially planned for DA2.

[Majestic Jazz]

So where are you getting this from, since EA has not released any sales figures for the game? I hope it's not VGChartz, most of those numbers are asspull from a very small sample base.

 

I have to admit, it is speculation but just think about it....CDPR made it public that Witcher 3 has sold 4 million units in just two weeks. Assuming that DAI is doing better, wouldn't you think EA would have came out and publicly release the sales numbers for DAI?  I mean, EA publically released numbers for Mass Effect 3, saying that it sold 890,000 units in North American. EA ALSO released numbers for Dragon Age 2, saying that it sold 1 million units in just two weeks. Both DA2 and ME3 are Bioware's most recent games not counting DAI but for some mysterious reason, EA chooses not to mention any hard numbers publically but instead goes with the vague "Biggest Bioware lauch....". THEN you have CDPR come out and publically say they sold 4 million which again ignited the debate over why isn't EA releasing hard figures for DAI? What are they hiding? If DAI was the biggest launch for Bioware, you would think of all companies, EA would be bragging and letting the world know just how great their game is doing.....but they don't.

 

Many unofficial estimates have DAI at around the 3.5 million mark which can possibly be higher than that by  now. I wouldn't be surprised if DAI has broken the 4 million mark but again, we don't know cause EA is interestingly enough keeping quiet on DAI's numbers which is weird given that they were public with both ME3 and DA2. 

 

OH, I just found this, EA ALSO revealed hard numbers for Mass Effect 2! Saying that is sold 2 million units workwide in it's first week. So this makes THREE games prior to DAI that EA publicly announces numbers but for some reason, is all quiet on DAI's numbers.

 

This leads many to believe that EA will eventually just pull the plug on DAI after this next DLC and just focus remaining efforts on DA4.