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[Valkyrja]

Trust me, a lot did and still do on BSN and Facebook. I miss my Shep but the writers said : "Bai Bai."

 

When you said "people kept complaining about Shepard being the protagonist of a trilogy" did you mean complaining about the character and the concept of a single protagonist across a trilogy or that they didn't like the resolution and closure Shepard got?

 

If it's the former I have a hard time believing that given that people seemed rather attached to the character and enjoyed having their own Shepard forming relationships and following a plot arc across games.

 

If you mean the latter this proposal seems like a bit of a scorched earth overreaction to ME3. Instead of dumping the concept how about just make a better ending next time.

[Torgette]

Lore, yes. Planning? No. They weren't sure ME was going to take off. That's why they went for the cosmic threat right away. A similar lack of planning explains the dark energy thing that went nowhere and the suicide mission in the second installment (unless you wish to imply they were just that stupid), or the way the entirety of ME2 was one giant procrastination, entertaining though it was. Right up until the end they were throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks- hence why they wrote themselves in a corner and turned to "art" to get them out.

 

No offense but read the whole post before typing away.  I said, to quote: ME had plenty of planning and lore built around the first game that heavily informed the next 2 games

[Sion1138]

The trilogy system will work best commercially.

[Mdizzletr0n]

I'd be fine either way. As long as the choices made in each game actually mattered going into the next.

[N7Jamaican]

I would hope this is a trilogy.

[RUDAL]

well, yes and no.

yes - that way we can more different stories

no - cause that leads to dragon age and I would rather avoid to many similarities with that game

[sjsharp2011]

The problem wasn't that ME was a trilogy, the problem was that it was a trilogy with zero planning.

 

So I'm not going to say no trilogies. I'm going to say decide now whether it's a trilogy or a one-off and for the love of God, stick to that.

 

Or better yet, find the sweet spot where it is a trilogy but each game can stand up on it own and be a self-contained story.

TBH I think that's what they did try to do whether it worked successfully or not I think it's up to us to decide individually. Personally I had no problems with any of the 3 games. I enjoy each and every one of them and have played them countless times and will play them many more

 

I think it depends on what they're going for though but maybe we'll get some hints as t whether it'll be a trilogy or a solo story when Andromeda comes out and we get to play it.

[KaiserShep]

On the one hand, I enjoy DA's approach, because it allows us to cover more ground and have a lot more stories without having to come up with silly reasons why that one protagonist is doing it all, but on the other, a setting like Mass Effect easily lets a single character cover a hell of a lot more ground, with the space travel and such. I think I'd like that BioWare at least have one franchise where a protagonist gets to carry over to another game as a playable character, or perhaps even a trilogy. It might as well be Mass Effect. For all of the trilogy's problems, I don't think that having Shepard be the constant between the three was one of them. 

[sjsharp2011]

I'm largely against this because I really liked the trilogy angle Mass Effect had. It's only issue was Bioware never having done it before.

yeah it was their first attempt at such a task and considering it only kind of went pear shaped at the end on the last hurdle I'd comnsider it a brave and very good attempt as long as they learn from it if they attempt something similar with the next games.

[bondari reloads.]

Shepard 2.0 is both more likely and popular, but this would eliminate any probability of multiple species to choose from in the future. Many people who played DAI could see that as a missed opportunity.

[laudable11]

The Warden is G.O.A.T.

[Sion1138]

They should consider doing another continuous series because they don't otherwise. Dragon Age doesn't follow that path. Most of their games in the past have been self-contained.

 

Mass Effect is the only venue where we might get to experience that.

[cap and gown]

I don't know whether we will have a continuing protagonist or not, but I get the sense that we will not have another trilogy in the sense of one over-arching story through three games the way the Reapers were the thread that tied together ME1-3. (Of course, you have to squint real hard to fit ME2 in there. ) Mac Walters indicated that one of the advantages of not having a Mass Relay network is that allows for plenty of unexplored areas that can be explored. I assume this means explored in later games. In MEA we colonize the Helius Cluster (based on the leak). Perhaps in some later game we explore yet another cluster with a new enemy to face. This does not have any bearing on whether we will play a new or continuing PC, but I think it does mean that a stand alone story for each new game seems more likely.

[CrutchCricket]

No offense but read the whole post before typing away.  I said, to quote: ME had plenty of planning and lore built around the first game that heavily informed the next 2 games

In that case, take your own advice and re-read my post: The problem wasn't that ME was a trilogy, the problem was that it was a trilogy with zero planning.

 

I won't take offense if you don't.

 

TBH I think that's what they did try to do whether it worked successfully or not I think it's up to us to decide individually. Personally I had no problems with any of the 3 games. I enjoy each and every one of them and have played them countless times and will play them many more

 

I think it depends on what they're going for though but maybe we'll get some hints as t whether it'll be a trilogy or a solo story when Andromeda comes out and we get to play it.

Maybe they tried, but I certainly don't think they suceeded very well.

 

ME1 stands on its own but it's clearly supposed to, given they didn't know it would catch on. Interestingly enough its role in the trilogy is weakened somewhat by the change in tone/style (more military semi-hard sci-fi to more comic book-y space opera) as well as the massive retcons to, and subsequent irrelevance of, some of its biggest plot elements; Sovereign and Vigil.

 

ME2 might stand on its own but fails as the middle entry of a trilogy- the sweet spot is to be both.

 

ME3 for all the claims that it's the best place to start is anything but. People trying to play it in a vacuum are probably confused as hell.

 

Basically before they even started development they should've decided whether it's a trilogy or not, what the overarching plot is and where they want to take it. Then they should focus on making each installment stand on its own while contributing to the overall plan. It may be cliche at this point to cite this as an example but basically take some notes from the Marvel movies. Everything stands on its own but is part of a bigger universe and is building an "overplot" which will be resolved in the Infinity War Duology.

[Mcfly616]

Standalone games from here on out would be ideal.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

If they aren't going to give the protagonist an ending with decent closure, I don't see why not. Dragon Age is still burdened by "What about the Hero of Ferelden?" Mass Effect is always going to be burdened by "What about Shepard?" It doesn't matter if the setting changes, or the plot changes, or the cast changes. Future installments are always going to be in these shadows that will hurt fan interest. That does not mean that future installments of these games won't sell well (DAI was a rousing success, for example) but they'd probably do even better without these questions dragging things down.

[Heimdall]

Standalone games from here on out would be ideal.

I agree, but do you think standalone games would work with the same protagonist or should they switch it up each time?

[Broganisity]

I'd prefer if Dragon Age stuck to the 'Classic-esque RPG style gameplay with new protagonist each game' while Mass Effect stuck to the 'Third Person Action-Shooter RPG with re-occurring protagonist.'. I like to see a character's long-term investment with companions, something that you the player feel in Mass Effect whenever Alistair or Morrigan shows up, but then your character is all like 'Hey who dis bish?'

Y'dig?

[Pasquale1234]

I agree, but do you think standalone games would work with the same protagonist or should they switch it up each time?

 

I'm not the person you asked, but...

 

If they continue with the same protagonist, there would be an expectation of returning supporting characters, particularly LIs.  Whether that's a good thing is... debatable.
 

[Isaidlunch]

I'd like another trilogy if it was done well but I'm really not impressed with how ME or The Witcher handled things like previous characters and choices. If the previous games are just going to be ignored then why bother making a trilogy?

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I want another trilogy. Seeing an RPG protagonist, the other characters, and the relationships between them evolve over three games was such a unique and rewarding experience. I absolutely hate getting attached to DA characters only for them to disappear off the face of the earth once the game is over... unless it's Leliana or Cullen. Bioware has such great characters which makes it feel so wasteful when they're thrown on the scrap pile after one game.

[Malanek]

Overall I prefer stand alone games with a different protagonist. I would also prefer they choose a default world state rather than import anything so they can fully explore the most interesting storylines from previous titles.

[Mcfly616]

I agree, but do you think standalone games would work with the same protagonist or should they switch it up each time?

 switch it up. They've already done a bang-up job of making the Milky Way seem smaller than my neighborhood and consequently felt the need to runaway from it. Instead of using entire galaxies as disposable settings in order to tell the story of a handful of people, I would hope they've learned from their mistakes and start telling different stories about different peoples adventures that are taking place in the same universe. 

 

 

 

 

I'm so over world-eating threats.

[Majestic Jazz]

The Warden is G.O.A.T.

I thought Revan was?

[fraggle]

Well, I didn't say it needs to be completely disconnected from the main franchise you know. I meant, a new protagonist, returning characters... Dragon Age style but with Sci-fi instead.

 

Well, in case ME:A actually does become a new Trilogy, I'd love to have the same protagonist. It just creates a more emotional bond. Because as much as I love Dragon Age, I never got so invested in any of their protagonists as with Shepard.