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[Boost32]

An 8 year old would think that, I guess.

Don't care for what you guess.

What if they leave before the events of ME3?

Then they would rape the lore again, it would make for a bad start.

[Dabrikishaw]

As long as they avoid using those terrible Mass Effect: Genesis comics I'll be happy.

[MaxQuartiroli]

What if they leave before the events of ME3?

 

I think it may happen... if we are leaving for a reason which is not the Reaper's threat.

We must not forget that before ME3 no one besides Shepard and his associates believed to their existence.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Then they would rape the lore again, it would make for a bad start.

I don't see how. There's lots more going on the universe than we see.

[Sanunes]

 

If I am not wrong Krogans were already confirmed in ME:A.. that's why I added them in my hypothetical scenario

 

 

I haven't seen it one way or the other, but that doesn't mean you are incorrect.

[Former_Fiend]

I haven't seen it one way or the other, but that doesn't mean you are incorrect.

 

The link claims that we will have a krogan squadmate and gave an example of his approval/loyalty being tied to something regarding krogan colonist, but that could have been hypothetical. 

 

Personally I'm looking at this from the angle of trying to include as many races as possible because frankly, if we're just down to human, turian, asari, salarians, and krogans, then I'm probably just not going to get the game. 

[Former_Fiend]

My guess? The ark ship will sail from Heart short after the Reaper's assault.

 

- No need to acknowledge any major ME3 event since we'll leave before they happened. And even if it's after I suppose that Heart was pretty isolated so we could even not know anything about them.

- An easy way to leave out the races they don't want to include in ME:A without giving many explanations. There will be Human, of course, because whatever they use to travel to Andromeda it was made by humans. Krogan, because they are mercenaries and they are everywhere, therefore it makes quite sense that there was some of them on Heart and also that they were hired. All the other races? It's up to the writers to decide which ones were on Heart at that time and were taking part into the project. 

 

...Ok, I'm a little confused here, what's "Heart"? Can't find any references to anything called Heart in connection to ME:A.

[Steppenwolf]

Probably misspelled Earth and it auto-corrected to Heart.

[Former_Fiend]

Probably misspelled Earth and it auto-corrected to Heart.

 

I figured that might have been it but I didn't want to jump to conclusions.

 

In any event, I'd simply prefer that we leave later on during the events of ME3 but before the ending and that they put up a Keep style app/site to let us handle major, word shaping decisions.

 

I don't care about the specific, character defining decisions of Commander Shepard, but I feel that leaving out the world defining decisions relating to the genophage and the geth/quarian situation along with a handful of others would simply be lazy, cop-out writing.

 

It's also a point that tonally, I don't buy the Alliance as it was presented in the beginning of ME3 to have been prepared on the level of being ready to launch an evacuation to another galaxy. There was no indication they had any contingencies like that; they were clearly taken by surprise and up until that point were still pretty heavy in the denial phase of "Let's cross our fingers and hope Shepard's crazy." So I'm willing to buy that the Milky Way races could have rigged up some kind of transport to Andromeda, whether it be wormhole or dark energy or cryosleep or some combination, but I'm not willing to buy that the Systems Alliance had that ready to launch at the time of the Reaper invasion, even an unprepared emergency launch.

 

Also, thematically, when you're calling the ship the Ark, that's a story that has certain connotations. And yes, at it's core it's about survival, but it's also about the preservation of as much life as possible.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Personally I'm looking at this from the angle of trying to include as many races as possible because frankly, if we're just down to human, turian, asari, salarians, and krogans, then I'm probably just not going to get the game. 

 

If that is the case I am 99% sure that they will add some new race

 

...Ok, I'm a little confused here, what's "Heart"? Can't find any references to anything called Heart in connection to ME:A.

 

 

Probably misspelled Earth and it auto-corrected to Heart.

 

Exactly this... I fixed it immediately, thanks!

[sjsharp2011]

If that is the case I am 99% sure that they will add some new race

 

 

 

 

Exactly this... I fixed it immediately, thanks!

Yeah I think there will be an Andromedaean race somewhere in there as being anwe galaxy I'd find it strange if we didnj't find somekind of local lifeform. It's just a matter of discovreing what and where.

[Former_Fiend]

I have no doubt that they're going to include new races native to Andromeda. That's kind of obvious.

 

I just don't think they need to be getting rid of any of the existing races. Maybe not make them as prominent, but there's no reason other than laziness to excise them completely.

[AlanC9]

 So I'm willing to buy that the Milky Way races could have rigged up some kind of transport to Andromeda, whether it be wormhole or dark energy or cryosleep or some combination, but I'm not willing to buy that the Systems Alliance had that ready to launch at the time of the Reaper invasion, even an unprepared emergency launch.
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How many months would you figure they'd need?

[Former_Fiend]

How many months would you figure they'd need?

 

ME3 was very vague in terms of how much time was passing, but post after the Tuchanka arc was when people seemed to be getting their sh*t together and getting out of the running around like chickens with their head cut off phase. 

 

My main point is that the impression of the opening of ME3 was that the Alliance wasn't prepared at all for the Reaper invasion. They way they had been taken unawares, to the point of only bringing Shepard up for consultation when the Reapers were at their doorstep, I don't buy that they had conceived of a "leave the galaxy" plan. 

[Cyonan]

My guesses about the ship are that it's either:

 

1. A regular large colonist ship that's been rigged up for traveling to another galaxy after the Reapers hit

2. A colonist ship that's been designed and under construction for years by the council races as a joint project for the purposes of exploration to other galaxies and when the Reapers hit, there was an emergency launch as a backup to the potential of losing the war.

 

I'm also guessing that we're going to leave after the start of ME3 so the Reapers are a very real threat and the reason for us leaving, but before any major choices take place so that they don't have to canonize anything or deal with multiple choices. The whole point of going to Andromeda is to get a clean slate, so it doesn't make much sense to have to acknowledge choices from the original trilogy.

 

I don't think anybody would have built the Ark as a response to the Reapers pre-ME3 since everybody was just hoping Shep was crazy. During ME3 I don't think anybody had the resources to spare to build such a ship from scratch, as they were busy with all the dying they were doing.

[Boost32]

I don't see how. There's lots more going on the universe than we see.

There is no mention of this project in any of the previous ME, there is tech to go to another galaxy (not even the Protheans could do it, and they were more advanced than the species from this cycle), they would need to retcon a lot of things to make it work.

[Former_Fiend]

I'm perfectly willing to buy that this project was being developed parallel to the Cruicible without Shepard being informed. I could see this as being a need to know kind of thing that they keep the people on the front lines out of the loop of in case of indoctrination.

 

I just don't buy that it's something the Alliance had in their back pockets from the start of ME3. I'm more willing to believe it's something the Asari put into motion after the fall of Thessia.

[Sylvius the Mad]

There is no mention of this project in any of the previous ME, there is tech to go to another galaxy (not even the Protheans could do it, and they were more advanced than the species from this cycle), they would need to retcon a lot of things to make it work.

Secret science lab, undiscovered wormhole - there are all manner of things we could make up to explain it without contradicting the existing lore.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Bioware takes our choices seriously, that's why they moved the next Mass Effect story as far as f*ck from the Milky Way as possible. They do not want the story impacted at all by the ending of ME3 or any of the choices we made during the game.

 

"Keep your save game" was for "Commander Shepard has become a legend. You can continue the legend with DLC." Your save game dumped you at Noveria. From there you could launch Priority Earth for the EC; Leviathan; Omega; and The Citadel DLC. So there you have it.

[Steppenwolf]

There's always the possibility that powerful interests developed the Ark in secret concurrently with Shepard's adventures after Sovereign attacked the Citadel. If Cerberus can have trillions of untraceable space-dollars and an endless supply of bodies to throw at the galaxy without anyone noticing until afterward then why couldn't another organization exist with the purpose of getting to another galaxy to save the intelligent species of our galaxy from the Reapers? Such a mission would require absolute secrecy to keep Reaper agents from finding out and wouldn't need Shepard at all. They could recruit the best minds before the threat ever became dire and launch for the Andromeda galaxy during ME3. There are countless places in the galaxy to hide a massive Ark and the team behind it. As any Andromeda hater will tell you, 99% of the galaxy is unexplored. There could be thousands of members of each species on the Ark and no one would be the wiser. We had Collectors scooping up people by the thousands, chaos after Sovereign and the Geth attacked the Citadel, and constantly escalating tensions between Council and non-Council sectors.
Everyone keeps saying Andromeda will have to break the lore but the lore is already bent and I reject this premise. If they want the story to work they can make it fit into place.

[Steppenwolf]

There is no mention of this project in any of the previous ME, there is tech to go to another galaxy (not even the Protheans could do it, and they were more advanced than the species from this cycle), they would need to retcon a lot of things to make it work.

You're making baseless assumptions again. We have no idea if Protheans ever made it out of the galaxy or not. They were fractured and disorganized when the Reapers hit. A team of Prothean scientists could have made it to the Andromeda galaxy 50,000 years before ME1 and become The Remnant. We have no idea if a wormhole is used to get to the Andromeda galaxy. We have no idea if we're transported there by mysterious means. We have no idea about most things in the arena.

[Boost32]

Secret science lab, undiscovered wormhole - there are all manner of things we could make up to explain it without contradicting the existing lore.

How its a Secret Project when they have various species in it? How they would father that many numbers of ships without no one knowing? Not even one of them were indrocnated?
They have Krogans ships, even when they were demilitarized.
And what about the mercenaries? How they get this kind of tech? Or do you think they were part of the Secret Project and betrayed everyone for reasons?

You're making baseless assumptions again. We have no idea if Protheans ever made it out of the galaxy or not. They were fractured and disorganized when the Reapers hit. A team of Prothean scientists could have made it to the Andromeda galaxy 50,000 years before ME1 and become The Remnant. We have no idea if a wormhole is used to get to the Andromeda galaxy. We have no idea if we're transported there by mysterious means. We have no idea about most things in the arena.

Because thats not baseless speculation right?
Hell the Protheans couldnt reach each other, but they had tech to go to another galaxy? Lol, sorry if I dont buy it.

[Steppenwolf]

How its a Secret Project when they have various species in it? How they would father that many numbers of ships without no one knowing? Not even one of them were indrocnated?
They have Krogans ships, even when they were demilitarized.

This is gibberish.

Because thats not baseless speculation right?
Hell the Protheans couldnt reach each other, but they had tech to go to another galaxy? Lol, sorry if I dont buy it.

You didn't speculate, you stated speculation as fact. There's a difference. Why can't you understand that?

[Boost32]

This is gibberish.You didn't speculate, you stated speculation as fact. There's a difference. Why can't you understand that?

Your post are all gibberish, Im tired talking with you.

[Killdren88]

Well, they said at an interview sometime ago that we should keep our saves.

 

They only said that to keep people off their backs during the Ending fiasco.