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[MaxQuartiroli]

 

 

I just don't think they need to be getting rid of any of the existing races. Maybe not make them as prominent, but there's no reason other than laziness to excise them completely.

 

I think it would be far more laziness to keep all the existing races and add a new andromedian race than keep half of the known ones and create from the scratch 5-6 new races each one with its history, habits and so on.. 

 

 

I just don't buy that it's something the Alliance had in their back pockets from the start of ME3. I'm more willing to believe it's something the Asari put into motion after the fall of Thessia.

 

Are you sure that Asari would include humans in a future version of Noah's Ark? 

[Steppenwolf]

I think it would be far more laziness to keep all the existing races and add a new andromedian race than keep half of the known ones and create from the scratch 5-6 new races each one with its history, habits and so on..

If the leak is wholly reliable then we might only be in a single galaxy so it might not make sense to have that many new races. If the Remnant are some kind of oppressive force that are present in the galaxy we're in then meeting just 2 or 3 new races would probably be the best balance of newness and logic.

[Chashan]

Well, they said at an interview sometime ago that we should keep our saves. But maybe they given up this save import thing because most of the players played in the consoles and this game will be only for next gen. I don't know if importing a save across platforms is even possible. But they should make a dragon age keep for mass effect andromeda, is way more easy and the saves can be shared across platforms that way. But make the site upload our old saves this time bioware.

 

Which interview would that be, or were you referring to that mysterious message on twitter from early 2012 referenced by other users?

 

If the latter, both jUliA

 

 

Bioware takes our choices seriously, that's why they moved the next Mass Effect story as far as f*ck from the Milky Way as possible. They do not want the story impacted at all by the ending of ME3 or any of the choices we made during the game.

 

"Keep your save game" was for "Commander Shepard has become a legend. You can continue the legend with DLC." Your save game dumped you at Noveria. From there you could launch Priority Earth for the EC; Leviathan; Omega; and The Citadel DLC. So there you have it.

 

and Killdren

 

They only said that to keep people off their backs during the Ending fiasco.

 

 

provided the most reasonable explanations why that message was posted way back when.

 

 

 

 

I think it would be far more laziness to keep all the existing races and add a new andromedian race than keep half of the known ones and create from the scratch 5-6 new races each one with its history, habits and so on.. 

 

 

 

Are you sure that Asari would include humans in a future version of Noah's Ark? 

 

To avoid ardat-yakshi nastiness - which, while proportionately low, would still be a real risk for a low size colony population - and keep up a "variable gene-pool" as per asari reproduction habits are two reasons that come to mind. Hyoomies as per ME-'verse tend to be a less problematic race to keep around to boot.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

 If Cerberus can have trillions of untraceable space-dollars and an endless supply of bodies to throw at the galaxy without anyone noticing until afterward then why couldn't another organization exist with the purpose of getting to another galaxy to save the intelligent species of our galaxy from the Reapers? Such a mission would require absolute secrecy to keep Reaper agents from finding out and wouldn't need Shepard at all.

 

Those were TIM bucks.

 

And with Shepard's association with Cerberus they wouldn't want him/her to know. "Ah yes, reapers. An ancient machine race..... we've dismissed that myth."

[AlanC9]

Are you sure that Asari would include humans in a future version of Noah's Ark?

Sure. They're gonna need cannon fodder, and humans are pretty easy to manipulate.

[Borkosine]

Well.. my opinion is that we wont need our save files because our decisions cant have any important impacts on the story. I mean only thing worth of importing the save file is genopage and I think that it'll be cured anyway(cannon). 

 

Now off topic: The ship couldn't have been send to the Andromeda after the ending of the ME3 because there were three endings and one of them was "synthesis" which mixed organic and non organic(green eyes). Bioware said they dont want to get involved in the endings, so I'm guessing that they were send during the ME3 timeline. How? I have no idea. I would agree with the theory that some organisation like Cerberus organised it but in the trailer we can see the "n7" sign which dosen't mean that our protagonist is n7 but it means that the military and the aliance is present in there and it's not Cerberus or any other similar organisation. 

[Excella Gionne]

Dat masseffectextranet.com site...

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Those were TIM bucks.

Are those like Takarada Bucks? 

[LoRD KYRaN]

Hi. Is it really that implausible for the Council races to have been freaked out of their minds enough after Thessia to do launch the Ark program as a contingency in case Shepard fails? If they had left before the fall of the Reapers, they would have still have had access to the Mass Relays. Couldn't that have aided them in their getting to Andromeda?

[animedreamer]

I don't think using the Reapers own inventions to try and escape them is a good idea or a theory as to how any other race escapes the fate of me3. If the collectors knew when Shepard used the Omega Relay, how couldn't the Reapers know when other races have used the other relays? It's just as much a security alert to them that a race has discovered their technology and is ripe for harvesting. Their best bet would actually be to galvanize their most distant colony into a ark like scenario and tell them to head to deepest space in another galaxy (not necessarily Andromeda) but somewhere to escape and by no means use the Relays, and hope the Reapers can't follow their Eezo trail.

 

 

You know talking about this makes me remember the Protheans original plan, and I wonder if that could have worked for humanity and some of the other races. Basically playing dead (cryogenic sleep) but this time make sure no indoctrinated individuals tip off the Reaper forces. Then awaken 1000 years into the future and rebuild and prepare for the Reapers from day 1.

[sjsharp2011]

Well.. my opinion is that we wont need our save files because our decisions cant have any important impacts on the story. I mean only thing worth of importing the save file is genopage and I think that it'll be cured anyway(cannon). 

 

Now off topic: The ship couldn't have been send to the Andromeda after the ending of the ME3 because there were three endings and one of them was "synthesis" which mixed organic and non organic(green eyes). Bioware said they dont want to get involved in the endings, so I'm guessing that they were send during the ME3 timeline. How? I have no idea. I would agree with the theory that some organisation like Cerberus organised it but in the trailer we can see the "n7" sign which dosen't mean that our protagonist is n7 but it means that the military and the aliance is present in there and it's not Cerberus or any other similar organisation. 

 

 

This is my guess too i would suspect it likely took off somewhere between the Cerberus Citadel coup at the half way point of the game and the final battle so somwehere during the second half of the game is the most likely scenario. But that's my theory

[Boost32]

Hi. Is it really that implausible for the Council races to have been freaked out of their minds enough after Thessia to do launch the Ark program as a contingency in case Shepard fails? If they had left before the fall of the Reapers, they would have still have had access to the Mass Relays. Couldn't that have aided them in their getting to Andromeda?

Because how they would develop this kind of advanced tech? They were using a lot of resources and people to build the Crucible, and somehow they were able to surpass the Reapers and go to another galaxy?
The technology of ME3 wouldn't make it possible, unless if BioWare want to destroy even more the lore

[The Arbiter]

Simple question : will we be able to import our ME3 save file ?
I mean the ending we choose has a huge impact for humans. Can we play an "android" or some sort if we choose synthesis ?

nope. They will scrap everything from the past 3 installments and start anew because they cornered themselves. Enjoy... oh and the Milkyway will probably be erased too 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Are those like Takarada Bucks? 

 

Exactly, except they're backed by standard galactic credits that he earns by selling the finest in weapons and armor in the galaxy for which every soldier in their right mind is saving their money, and further funding The Illusive Man's war effort!

 

1) Shepard showing up in Cerberus Ajax armor - "No Ash, I'm not with Cerberus anymore. You'll have to trust me."

2) Shepard buying Cerberus weapons like the Harrier etc. for his/her squad.

3) Shepard buying and using the Cerberus Talon.

4) And the prize in the Armax Arsenal Arena? Cerberus Phantom Armor!

 

Wear the armor and use the weapons of your enemy! That way you'll be indistinguishable from them and your team won't.... oh wait.

 

However, do not worry about ME:A. The Illusive Man has infiltrated this Ark project and managed to get a few of his more idealistic people on board with instructions to make sure humanity was adequately represented once they got to Andromeda.... This is a Mac Walters plot. Cerberus is an idea. You can't kill ideas. And we need human mooks to kill. You know this is how we'll end up with our first Andromedan squadmate - rescuing them from a Cerberus lab.

[AlanC9]

Because how they would develop this kind of advanced tech? They were using a lot of resources and people to build the Crucible, and somehow they were able to surpass the Reapers and go to another galaxy?
The technology of ME3 wouldn't make it possible, unless if BioWare want to destroy even more the lore

Again, there are plenty of ways to do that that wouldn't violate the lore. A couple of them have been mentioned in this thread, even.

[MaxQuartiroli]

To avoid ardat-yakshi nastiness - which, while proportionately low, would still be a real risk for a low size colony population - and keep up a "variable gene-pool" as per asari reproduction habits are two reasons that come to mind. Hyoomies as per ME-'verse tend to be a less problematic race to keep around to boot.

 

 

Sure. They're gonna need cannon fodder, and humans are pretty easy to manipulate.

 

From their perspective I don't see any reason for them to include humans.. Even if they allowed us to be in the Council they still consider us a less-evolved race, very aggressive and quite untrustworthy. Moreover our average lifespan is quite low. Therefore I wouldn't be surprised if they don't consider us necessary. Salarians for their scientist, and Turian for their Military Corpse... and if they want troops they would choose Krogans rather than Humans. They are also aggressive but they are far more resistant. And To avoid Ardat Yakshi it's enough they don't mate each others. Therefore 1 other race in theory can already suffice. In order to provide further diversification 3 are more than enough.   

 

TL;DR No, I think that only a project lead by humans won't leave us behind.  

[Boost32]

Again, there are plenty of ways to do that that wouldn't violate the lore. A couple of them have been mentioned in this thread, even.

Sorry, but I still don't find feasible the possibiliy for them to create a technology so advanced in less than a year out of thin air.
There are no indication in any of the previous ME that it would be possible.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Sorry, but I still don't find feasible the possibiliy for them to create a technology so advanced in less than a year out of thin air.
There are no indication in any of the previous ME that it would be possible.

 

How much time passed between ME1 and ME2? Did you ever think that during that period of time someone would ever be able to create something like Project Lazarus? In fictional worlds technologies can advance really fast. 

[N7Jamaican]

Leave ME3 out of ME:A and lets focus on ME:A alone please!

[Boost32]

How many time pass between ME1 and ME2? Did you ever think that during that period of time someone would ever be able to create something like Project Lazarus? In fictional worlds technologies can advance really fast. 

Lets not rape the lore again, The Lazarus Project was bad.

[Big Bad]

Lets not rape the lore again, The Lazarus Project was bad.

Bad or not, how does the Lazarus Project "rape the lore"?  I'm assuming that by "lore" you mean something besides common sense?  If so, what part of ME lore precludes the Lazarus Project? 

[Boost32]

Bad or not, how does the Lazarus Project "rape the lore"?  I'm assuming that by "lore" you mean something besides common sense?  If so, what part of ME lore precludes the Lazarus Project?

Just common sense and the "there is no way to reproduce it".

[Big Bad]

Just common sense and the "there is no way to reproduce it".

Well I don't think that's the same thing as saying it violates the lore. It's just an asspull, which the series (and most sci-fi) is absolutely filled to the brim with. 

[Feybrad]

I would not care, eitehr Way, but if I had to decide, I would allow Imports. You can easily explain away everyone not being Cyborgs, Dead or cured of the Genophage by them having fled the Galaxy during the earlier Phases of the Reaper Invasion, but they should still be allowed to drop Hints to the Milky Way Trilogy if they are so inclined, even if those are only smaller Details and have no real Bearing on the Plot. They should be allowed to pick out what they want to take over to Andromeda and leave the big old Rest behind.

[Boost32]

Well I don't think that's the same thing as saying it violates the lore. It's just an asspull, which the series (and most sci-fi) is absolutely filled to the brim with. 

Well then lets stop those asspull.