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How can anyone be better then Commander Shepard? Don't think BioWare can pull it off.


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How can anyone be better than the Inquisitor, Hawke, the Hero of Ferelden, Commander Shepard, the Spirit Monk, Revan, the Hero of Neverwinter, the Bhaalspawn? Very few people will agree on which PC Bioware created is the best.

 

We don't need Shepard back to have a Mass Effect game.



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... other then I'll miss Commander Shepard.

 

 

 

 I don't like Shepard. No personality.

 

I found this kind of funny.

That shows exactly how different people feel about/see shepard.

 

For both of you shepard was a character you lead around, you felt like the player behind him.

One liked him, one didn't.

 

For me and other players like me, when i spend my time in ME, i am a part of shepard.

I will, and i think in that point the three of us agree, miss Tali and the others.

 

But i wont miss shepard, because as long as i play ME 1,2 and 3 i AM him to a certain degree.

I will be the next protagonist as well, if the game is good, and i will be not that much different than i was as shepard.

When i like the game enough to play it for a long time, i will forge the protagonist so much into my virtual self that we will coalesce,

just like i did in ME (and very few other games i have to admit, that only works when i really love world i play in).

 

I don't know if that comes from my age (when i was a child/young there was no video games, i HAD to forge me a world to play in) or if its simply an old pen&paper-rpg-disorder.


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But i wont miss shepard, because as long as i play ME 1,2 and 3 i AM him to a certain degree.

 

This reminds me that I wish part 3 was handled much better.



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I'm sure Bioware can pull it off and give us Another memorable character. I hope :)

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Commander Shepard is a tool.

Never does he/she come up with a plan. Always just executing what others planned. A simple, mindless killing machine.

If there's any question to be had, it's why Shepard is so loved to begin with. And the Warden too, for that matter.

The Warden's even worse imo, but whatever :P
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This reminds me that I wish part 3 was handled much better.

 

That is the reason why i absolut hate the endings.

 

And to be honest, as someone who writes stories for other people myself, i see the mode they was done as an insolence, but that doesn't matters anymore, that issue is done.

 

But yea, that is the reason why some people was so butthurt, and the **** yes, i was (something else people REALLY seldom manage to do) and others wasn't.

If it is only a character for a player, then who gives a ****, tough luck.

In many games i feel that way, but yea, ME is special for me.

It takes alot to make a world that pulls me in that much, that is why i will stick to ME:A, no matter what will be announced in the next 18 month.

 

I want the chance for more virtual experiences like this, they are rare these days.


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Commander Shepard is a tool.

Never does he/she come up with a plan. Always just executing what others planned. A simple, mindless killing machine.

If there's any question to be had, it's why Shepard is so loved to begin with. And the Warden too, for that matter.

The Warden's even worse imo, but whatever :P

 

It's the character. The way he looks, talks, sounds and behaves that impressed me the most about him. So even something as getting the look or voice actor slightly wrong could be very disastrous.



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A simple, mindless killing machine.
 

 

Damn... now i know why i found it so easy to mindmelt dozens of times with my almost-full-renegade-shepard.

No clue what excuses the others got, but my case is solved :)


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Sarcastic Hawke didn't said anything stupid? Lol everything he/she said was stupid, cant take that personality serious.
Agressive male Hawke > all.

Meh, I found aggro-Hawke kind of boring. For the most part, SarcHawke was basically trolling everyone. But there was no time I could recall where any Hawke said anything remotely like asari mating with their own species, strategies and tactics, etc..

Of course, I didn't always select the purple option. It was my Hawke's dominant personality, but it'd be silly to always select it, but I feel that way about all three types.

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<snip>

 

For me and other players like me, when i spend my time in ME, i am a part of shepard.

<snip>

 

^ this 

 


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It's the character. The way he looks, talks, sounds and behaves that impressed me the most about him. So even something as getting the look or voice actor slightly wrong could be very disastrous.


Looks should be totally irrelevant as they are editable. Or in other words, your Shepard doesn't look like mine, it's not a part of what the character is.

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Commander Shepard is a tool.

Never does he/she come up with a plan. Always just executing what others planned. A simple, mindless killing machine.

If there's any question to be had, it's why Shepard is so loved to begin with. And the Warden too, for that matter.

The Warden's even worse imo, but whatever :P


Maybe your shep was this way, my current shep has no problem coming up with plans, sometimes on the fly flipping the script in a mission if it suited him. Shep is anything but a tool, he is in command and everyone knows it. No one challenges the butcher of Torfan. I'd say me2 gives you plenty of chances to be a leader, which is the only game I really play anymore. Although you may miss some chances to show it if you don't do renegade options much I guess

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Maybe your shep was this way, my current shep has no problem coming up with plans, sometimes on the fly flipping the script in a mission if it suited him. Shep is anything but a tool, he is in command and everyone knows it. No one challenges the butcher of Torfan. I'd say me2 gives you plenty of chances to be a leader, which is the only game I really play anymore. Although you may miss some chances to show it if you don't do renegade options much I guess


Really now?

So it was your Shepard who decided to go after Saren, and not Anderson?
It was your Shepard who decided to go after the Collectors, and not the Illusive Man?
It was your Shepard who decided to go the moon, and not... eh... holy ***** I forgot his name. Omg.

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Looks should be totally irrelevant as they are editable. Or in other words, your Shepard doesn't look like mine, it's not a part of what the character is.

 

Some actors I enjoy the best based off just how they look, sound and talk. I also want BioWare to create something most would love instantly instead of being forced to waste time in the character creation screen, then find out it doesn't carry over to the next ME.

 

And most identify Shepard as the default one. Just look all over the internet to see this. So yes. I fear some lame looking hero being splattered all over the internet for ME:A. As it also affects my role playing of the character.



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Really now?So it was your Shepard who decided to go after Saren, and not Anderson?It was your Shepard who decided to go after the Collectors, and not the Illusive Man?It was your Shepard who decided to go the moon, and not... eh... holy ***** I forgot his name. Omg.


That's sort of the plight of the hero. Shepard followed plans set by others, as did the Warden, and Hawke and even the Inquisitor.

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That's sort of the plight of the hero. Shepard followed plans set by others, as did the Warden, and Hawke and even the Inquisitor.


It's especially bad with Shepard. Maybe cause he's a soldier, but Shepard is 100% 'finish the mission'.

Unless, of course, you decide to destroy the Collector base. Then he just goes full retard.

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Technically, the mission from the start was to destroy the collectors and wipe out their base of operations. There was never any mention of capturing their base. Until ol glow-eyes presented the option, you didn't even know you could.
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Really now?

So it was your Shepard who decided to go after Saren, and not Anderson?
It was your Shepard who decided to go after the Collectors, and not the Illusive Man?
It was your Shepard who decided to go the moon, and not... eh... holy ***** I forgot his name. Omg.


Well Saren isn't in me2 for one, Anderson doesnt tell shep to do anything in me2 besides restricting my work to the terminus system, which I don't. Going after the collectors? Must have been Tim's idea since I saw them before he did. You could say it was his idea to go to freedoms progress, but after that if yor shep wasnt in it for himself and not the illusive man, then yes you may have been his tool, or did you forget you can tellem to go stuff himself at the end? You can plan out the entire suicide mission, and many other portions of the game depend on how your shep reacts to the situation. Grunt? Legion? Zaeed's loyalty mission, Overlord....

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Sharpened. Helicopter. Blades. 

 



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Wow, this picture is amazing!

 


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Technically, the mission from the start was to destroy the collectors and wipe out their base of operations. There was never any mention of capturing their base. Until ol glow-eyes presented the option, you didn't even know you could.


Oh I know. It's that insanity he spews when choosing to destroy it.

It's there, his/her shot at saying something profound when defying orders.

And then he/she says... that.

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Well Saren isn't in me2 for one

 
Splendid. Didn't say he was.


Anderson doesnt tell shep to do anything in me2 besides restricting my work to the terminus system, which I don't.


Splendid. Never said any of that either.

Maybe put on your glasses?

Going after the collectors? Must have been Tim's idea since I saw them before he did. You could say it was his idea to go to freedoms progress


eh.... eh.... eh...

He ressurectrred you from the dead to fight the Collectors. (or whatever it was that was abducting humans)

Did you even play the games?

 

but after that if yor shep wasnt in it for himself and not the illusive man, then yes you may have been his tool, or did you forget you can tellem to go stuff himself at the end?


Lol. Telling him to go *bleep* himself in the end isn't enough. The *bleeping* should've been done the moment you found out you were working for Cerberus.

You can plan out the entire suicide mission, and many other portions of the game depend on how your shep reacts to the situation. Grunt? Legion? Zaeed's loyalty mission, Overlord....


Suicide mission: TIM's idea
Overlord: TIM sends you there.

Legion: I'll grant you that one.
Grunt: I'll also grant you that.

So you get to tell TIM to stuff himself in the end after you did everything he wanted you to do and you get a whole 2 squadmates TIM didn't tell you to recruit. Whooptiedoo.

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I hate both options really.

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Um those where just a few, how bout morinth? The fact that you could get people killed on the way too the suicide mission without upgrading your ship? The shadowbroker... I Don't remember Tim letting us know about those. Yes Tim is attempting (very terribly) to use shep throughout the game, but it is up to you to decide if you wanna be his tool that does whatever he tells you. You can just as easily be the leader who takes these new found resources and intel/personnel and do what you thinks needs to be done, the illusive man be damned. Tim wants you to win him the base and all it's advanced technology, not blow it too hell. Shep was an investment with a mind of its own. A bad one in some playthroughs, and a huge profit in others.
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Um those where just a few, how bout morinth?

 
Morinth's idea

The fact that you could get people killed on the way too the suicide mission without upgrading your ship?


Getting people killed is a good thing now? Not going for the best possible chance to finish the suicide mission well is a good choice?

Ugh... my biggest gripe with ME2. Deaths should've been unavoidable during the suicide mission. But I digress.

The shadowbroker... I Don't remember Tim letting us know about those. Yes Tim is attempting (very terribly) to use shep throughout the game, but it is up to you to decide if you wanna be his tool that


Haha. Omg, man. TIM gives you the information where the Shadow Broker's base is. You give this information to Liara.
 

does whatever he tells you. You can just as easily be the leader who takes these new found resources and intel/personnel and do what you thinks needs to be done, the illusive man be damned. Tim wants you to win him the base and all it's advanced technology, not blow it too hell. Shep was an investment with a mind of its own. A bad one in some playthroughs, and a huge profit in others.


Blowing the base up is stupid in general. The way Shepard goes about blowing it up makes it borderline insane.