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[MisterJB]

And I do mean it.

Can you imagine what it's like to know that your reason for existing is to be spare parts for someone else whom everyone loves? That you have no identity and you are not supposed to have one?
And in the meantime, there is a shrew doing her best to manipulate you into being her tool.

I just wanted to adopt him and teach him he doesn't have to be The Shepard. He can be his own Shepard, we will be the Shepard Brothers togethers.

 

I mean, my son is a tank-bred.

 

 

My girlfriend is a test-tube.

 

 

 

She's got her sister who is a clone of her.

 

 

My brother who is a clone of me would complete the family.

 

High-Five Bro.

 

[fraggle]

Yeah, it was a bit sad we couldn't help him/her. Shepard with all the friends who have his/her back, and the clone only has that treacherous biatch...

On the other hand, it'd be f*cking weird if there were actually two Shepards running about all the time.

[MisterJB]

First he is surprised.

 

 

Then it dawns on him that he has no one in the world.

 

 

And finally he just gives up.

 

 

It's heartbreaking.

[Dantriges]

Yeah it´s really sad, a real sob story, Still kicked him over the ledge. He was as good as dead anyways. Cloneshep stole a military vessel during wartime, full of top secret info, tried to impersonate a spectre and killed a lot of people when he ordered the pilot to shoot at the shuttle, hitting civilian building as collateral damage. And there is no atmosphere around the upper levels. That´s more or less a ten minute trial and the death penalty or a shot in the head from a spectre. He lost all good will I had, when they started their shooting spree in the middle of the city. If it was possible, I would have told Cortez to fly away.

 

I was sympathetic until it became more than personal.

 

Oh and my high paragon shot maya in the back. Not every Cerberus rat deserves a deal.

[S.W.]

oh god this.

 

Always felt sorry for that damned clone, she'd primarily been screwed up by Maya's interference and the size of Shep's shadow. I mean, discovering that you're a clone for spare parts of a ridiculously famous war hero, living legend, etc. must bloody hurt. Can totally understand where the bitterness comes from (although god no need to be so damned rude). Had she survived, changed her face, got a new name and ID, she could have had an ok life of her own.

 

tbh the Citadel story is so ridiculous that I often pretend that it's not canon.

[Jukaga]

Never felt a moment of pity for it, all my paras and rens kick it off the deck only because there isn't a more gruesome way to do it. There can be only one!

[Han Shot First]

Kicked him off the ship with no regrets.

 

There can be only one!

[themikefest]

The only way I would help the clone is if I knew it would take my place on the citadel when facing anderson and TIM and then the catalyst

[DuskWanderer]

The clone was far too insane. He bet on the wrong horse and that was that. 

 

Now, if I could get him to suicide mission Wreav, that might be a different story. 

[KaiserShep]

My Shep's clone was a liability, and a pain in the ass, so Shepard kicked her off the ship without hesitation, and later shot Brooks in the back, as things should be.

[dgcatanisiri]

I feel bad for the clone. I mean we see that moment where they realize what makes Shepard Commander Shepard - Shepard's squad coming to their rescue, heedless of the danger, while Brooks won't even look the clone in the eye... I honestly find that heartbreaking. And it's just the cherry on top of a whole conga line of crap for the clone - they exist to serve as spare parts, they had to learn to be human, they had their mind warped by Brooks (who HAD to have given the clone a skewed view of just about everything that was Shepard, controlling what they learned)... The clone is deserving of a lot of sympathy and mercy, because they were a pawn of Brooks the whole time.

 

Still, I don't think the story could have ended any other way (not just because this was DLC, so it couldn't offer any kind of major story change), because the clone was so full of self-loathing (...I'm going with that term, despite not being sure if it's the one that applies). We get to see the exact moment that they break and can't bring themselves to keep going.

[Kynare]

Well hey, I have a headcanon where they live, but they continue to be kidnapped, tortured and misunderstood because they look exactly like Shepard. I'm a sucker for tragedy though. Apparently the x months of training they had from Maya was enough time to make them almost as good as an N7 soldier though, so... I guess they'd be fine.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Yeah, it would have been cool for Shepard to have a twin brother/sister.

 

 

That said, I went the Renegade route and stamped him off -- just too crazy/unstable, even by Normandy standards.

[SwobyJ]

I like being Paragon to both CloneShep and Maya.

 

CloneShep gives up, it is tragic. I consider him more damaged than irredeemably insane, but plot put him in that position on the ledge.

Maya hesitates in her antagonism. It is encouraging. In custody, I can imagine her having few qualms with providing strategic intelligence against Cerberus before I go on the final assault to the HQ.

 

I'm fine with there being two. I'm fine with there being many. No, he's not our Commander Shepard, but I don't think he's irredeemably evil, but like pretty much all of CAT6, I think he's been screwed with in the head enough that he'd need a mix of positive social ethical reinforcement and a purpose to fight the Reapers, not effing Commander Shepard.

 

I didn't hate CAT6, and the dialogue can support this - you can believe Shepard is just super annoyed at what CAT6 is doing to your ship and life, but you don't need to hate CAT6 themselves.

 

I'm not so absolutely attached to the Normandy that stealing it means an automatic death sentence no matter the other context and opportunities, and I'm not so absolutely attached to Commander Shepard that an attempt to take his identity means an automatic death sentence either. Typically it might, but I was okay with trying to procure assets for the war, not just destroying every single enemy in my way.

 

 

This doesn't mean I like CloneShep or Maya BTW. It means I can see their usefulness, and in a different plot, their possible redemption. ME3 was not that plot, but it gave us personal character choice and expression anyway.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Oh, and as for Maya: I killed her.

 

I was not even all that angry at her as Shepard comes off when you choose that response, I was just kind of like "Whatever" against her taunts. I tried it the other way, too, but -- even though I generally tend to use my enemies rather than dispose of them -- it just did not feel right to me or in-line with how I honestly reacted. Though I did not hate her, I did not feel any want/need to demean myself by pleading for her life. And that zinger by Shepard when he kills her was pretty great, too (heh).

[dgcatanisiri]

 Oh, and as for Maya: I killed her.

 

I was not even all that angry at her as Shepard comes off when you choose that response, I was just kind of like "Whatever" against her taunts. I tried it the other way, too, but -- even though I generally tend to use my enemies rather than dispose of them -- it just did not feel right to me or in-line with how I honestly reacted. Though I did not hate her, I did not feel any want/need to demean myself by pleading for her life. And that zinger by Shepard when he kills her was pretty great, too (heh).

 

Yeah, I'm pretty much 'oh please' exasperated with her, rather than angry. I didn't believe her for a second when she offered the 'I'll be more than happy to cooperate' line, and her throwing in the 'I'm not even a field agent' was just bull.

 

But I don't believe for a second that a few pithy words from Shepard are enough to make her reconsider escaping and running off. Her whole characterization throughout the DLC spoke of someone with more confidence in her abilities than skill with them - her accent kind of goes back and forth and all over the place, and she kinda over does the 'quirky, in over her head desk flyer.' She will outright acknowledge that the strength of Shepard and the Normandy is their reliance on one another, yet she underestimates it getting them out of the Archives and to the Normandy and even while fighting the clone. This is someone who was certain she would be able to get away, but didn't have the skill to back up that assumption. I don't see how the paragon option would be enough to make her back down on her escape attempt. MAYBE it'd make her doubt doing it there, but by the time she'd end up in custody on the Citadel, she'd be breaking out. So yeah, I'm probably always going to take the Renegade option there, because it keeps everyone feeling in character.

[CrutchCricket]

The only way I would help the clone is if I knew it would take my place on the citadel when facing anderson and TIM and then the catalyst

Agreed, particularly the latter.

 

Otherwise, nope, I terminated that ******* with extreme prejudice. In the immortal words of Tony Stark: "Don't take my stuff."

 

The minute the clone moved against me, it had one chance- it could prove superior and defeat me. Otherwise oblivion is the best it can hope for. If it allowed itself to be manipulated by that hack Brooks, he also doesn't deserve to live, but that's maybe a more idealistic judgement.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Having dreams and visions giving foreknowledge of facing my demise on the Citadel facing Starbrat, I wanted to let my Clone be the hero and take a shuttle to somewhere like Nevos that was never invaded, and wait for the ending.

[aoibhealfae]

I feel sad for her too. She deserve a second chance. Plus, its obvious that she's lonely and desperate for love...

I understand her jealousy and she made some mistakes. But she shouldn't get fridged like that... she should've been made into a War Asset.

 

And I read Foundation and I do pity Rasa. But unlike Petrovsky, you don't get any War Assets whether she lives or dies. She didn't even want to help my clone and all your squadmates think she deserve to die. So, I let them pull the trigger for me and it made them happy.