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DAO MAdhatter

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Why are people so keen to dismiss MEA so early on? It it because of DAI(a completely different kind of game), or are they still sore over an ending to a game that came out 3 years ago. It just doesn't make sense. People should just grow up, let go of past slights & give this brand new game in a much beloved franchise a break.
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MESSAGE POPULAIRE !

Gaming. . .has changed.

It's no longer about fun, unique gameplay, or quality plots. Gaming--and it's consumption of money--has become a well-oiled business.

Gaming has changed.

Self-Entitled Gamers play DRM-filled games, while developers use graphics as a selling point for 'good' games. Sales inside their software distribution programs enhance and regulate their spending.

Graphical complaints, character complaints, plot complaints, gameplay complaints…everything is complained about and kept under control.

Gaming…has changed.

The age of fun has become the age of entitlement, all in the name of appeasing and averting criticism from rabid fans, and he who complains to the system, controls the future.

Gaming…has changed.

When the medium suffers under total entitlement, gamers become volatile.”


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I don't feel that way, but it's Not about DAI or the endings. It's about the game bein set in Andromeda.
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Why are people so keen to dismiss MEA so early on? It it because of DAI(a completely different kind of game), or are they still sore over an ending to a game that came out 3 years ago. It just doesn't make sense. People should just grow up, let go of past slights & give this brand new game in a much beloved franchise a break.

 

They're mostly afraid of place filler fetch quests, exploration being boring, introduction of new protagonist and enviroment, return of Mako etc.

 

Some didn't like DA:I, some hated ME 3's ending, some thinks multiplayer part should be removed, some thing multiplayer part should get more love, some think ME:A should run better on PCs, some prefer to play it on console...

 

A typical day in gaming forums :)


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ME3's ending was an affront to my artistic integrity. Also, I always hold a grudge, just in case...


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Why are people so keen to dismiss MEA so early on? It it because of DAI(a completely different kind of game), or are they still sore over an ending to a game that came out 3 years ago. It just doesn't make sense. People should just grow up, let go of past slights & give this brand new game in a much beloved franchise a break.

 

Like Elder King said, it's mainly about the game being in Andromeda for them


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I like to think that all the people afraid of change are really big McDonald's fans.


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To be blunt, message boards have made it really easy to brood and contribute to group-think patterns which, coupled with the internet-culture's predisposition towards negativity and extremism, leads to a neverending downward spiral...  And to the people who have a problem with Andromeda... They are telling you a story.  Your job as the audience is to accept the premise given to you and listen to the story.  Nothing will be 100% gold to every person and you have to accept that.  But considering my first sentence of this post, that assertion will not sway anyone...


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It's the way of the BioWare "fan". It happens.
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Internet forums aren't filled with the best and brightest.

 

People complain dude.

 

If any one of us had any intelligence we wouldn't be here.

 

So stop complaining about people complaining, it does get ridiculous. :)


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Why are people so keen to dismiss MEA so early on?

 

Why should anyone care if they dismiss it?


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Gaming. . .has changed.

It's no longer about fun, unique gameplay, or quality plots. Gaming--and it's consumption of money--has become a well-oiled business.

Gaming has changed.

Self-Entitled Gamers play DRM-filled games, while developers use graphics as a selling point for 'good' games. Sales inside their software distribution programs enhance and regulate their spending.

Graphical complaints, character complaints, plot complaints, gameplay complaints…everything is complained about and kept under control.

Gaming…has changed.

The age of fun has become the age of entitlement, all in the name of appeasing and averting criticism from rabid fans, and he who complains to the system, controls the future.

Gaming…has changed.

When the medium suffers under total complaints, gamers become volatile.”

 

You jump around from blaming the industry to calling gamer's entitled. God forbid we expect quality from a $80+ dollar product. You sound just like another over dramatic cynic. 

 

Personally, I'm willing to give Andromeda a go. Even if all the doubts are true, which I doubt myself, being able to play a Mass Effect game will still be worth it.


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Ehh, the trailer by it's self has me worried. I liked the beginning with the exploration of different planets. But immediately after that it cuts to generic, face covered protagonist shooting things. We already have tons of game that do that, made by developers with better track records for that sort of thing.


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Face it. It's Bioware weaseling out of the ME3 ending, but in reality they have to do something like this unless they want to start making canon decisions. I mean think about it. Think of the rage on these boards if they did what CDPR does with The Witcher series? But CDPR gets away with it because they're CDPR and never have taken your choices seriously. Bioware would enrage their fan base.

 

So we're in Andromeda away from the reapers, the mass relays, Shepard, Starbrat, and Red, Blue, and Green. In a million years we'll see a flash of whatever color in the Milky Way, but it doesn't matter for our story because our characters will be dead by that time.

 

We're in Andromeda. Deal with it. Even I've adapted. It'll be fun.


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@ imaginaryMatter: But MEA is certainly going to have a lot of shooting things. No sense having the trailer misrepresent the game.
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@ imaginaryMatter: But MEA is certainly going to have a lot of shooting things. No sense having the trailer misrepresent the game.

 

But I do so enjoy trailers at least maintaining the pretense that they are about something more.


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Gaming. . .has changed.

It's no longer about fun, unique gameplay, or quality plots. Gaming--and it's consumption of money--has become a well-oiled business.

Gaming has changed.

Self-Entitled Gamers play DRM-filled games, while developers use graphics as a selling point for 'good' games. Sales inside their software distribution programs enhance and regulate their spending.

Graphical complaints, character complaints, plot complaints, gameplay complaints…everything is complained about and kept under control.

Gaming…has changed.

The age of fun has become the age of entitlement, all in the name of appeasing and averting criticism from rabid fans, and he who complains to the system, controls the future.

Gaming…has changed.

When the medium suffers under total complaints, gamers become volatile.”

I need to play Guns of the Patriots now...


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You really only need YouTube for the authentic MGS4 experience.

 

Spoiler

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I don't feel that way, but it's Not about DAI or the endings. It's about the game bein set in Andromeda.

 

I dont think this really matters to most people. Star Wars is set in anonymous galaxy far away and no-one cares. Fantasy stories (for example dragon age) are set in made up universes and no-one cares. 



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I just like throwing things under buses.


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If any one of us had any intelligence we wouldn't be here.

 

I sense some truth in this words.


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Well it just dawned on me that, even if the developers haven't said it explicitly, ME:A will be taking a lot of inspiration from DA:I and furthermore I'm realizing how I am not of the disposition to amuse the experiment of Mass Effect being such an open world game filled with an overwhelming number of shallow quests involving kaboodles of empty travel for rather little reward. Keep your Assassin's Creed style game design out of Mass Effect, Bioware! I don't care if establishing this settlement will increase my Andromeda influence. The previous Mass Effect games were the successors to KOTOR and had substance to just about everything you did and I don't want to wait 3-5 years for you to realize you screwed up by taking that away and make another game that's like the original trilogy.


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I had overhyped myself so much over DAI that I was automatically bit disapointed with it. I don't want that happen with ME:A, I want to be rather pleasantly suprised than disapointed when game didn't meet expectations.


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Why are people so keen to dismiss MEA so early on? It it because of DAI(a completely different kind of game), or are they still sore over an ending to a game that came out 3 years ago. It just doesn't make sense. People should just grow up, let go of past slights & give this brand new game in a much beloved franchise a break.

 

lol, you need to get off BSN and go to other, mostly mainstream, gaming sites/forums. Most are very positive and excited about ME4.

 

Here on BSN, what you're dealing with are mostly long time, (like MDK2 and Baldurs gate and KoTOR days), BioWare fans. These fans, me included, have seen what BioWare has become and have in turned become jaded and skeptical.

 

 

But.... I'm pretty excited about MEA, I'm looking forward to it. Still, despite how utterly meh DA3 and SWOTOR were, I'm still interested in BioWare. Because I see glimpses of the old BioWare, I did at times see glimpses of the old BioWare in DA3. So, yeah... I guess I'm glass half full type of guy.


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I won't consign the game under the wheels until it is released and I'll probably keep my hyping in a more cynical mindset given my opinion of Bioware games took a severe drop over recent releases, so much so that I didn't buy into DA:I after being unimpressed with the play through I had of a friends copy.

 

My decision to engage with buying into ME:A and Bioware really depends on several criteria; how the writing and world building attempts to justify the change in setting,  how plausible the solution provided for traversing between galaxies and whether the integrity and focus of the last generation of games remains intact. There is little information on these criteria available, but was has been revealed so far has added extra degrees of justification of these criteria for me.