If space magic was the answer ME3 wouldn't have gotten the backlash it did
If it had been space magic with a happy ending in which we see Shepard and his/hers LI holding hands in a field full of flowers, rainbows and butterflies no one would be complaining. People don't care about good endings, they just want a happy ending. Give them a happy ending and they wont complain.
If it had been space magic with a happy ending in which we see Shepard and his/hers LI holding hands in a field full of flowers, rainbows and butterflies no one would be complaining. People don't care about good endings, they just want a happy ending. Give them a happy ending and they wont complain.
Yeah because there's absolutely no complaints about DAI's ending...
...wait.
Yeah because there's absolutely no complaints about DAI's ending...
...wait.
But nowhere near as much as ME3's ending. It is NOWHERE near as much as ME3's.
Alternate universe.
Problem solved.
Nah, space magic is a better answer....
I wasn't kidding.. I really think it can be a solution for them if they really want to start a new story from a blank page and without worrying about any possible contradiction with the old trilogy. I mean, it's something I have seen often in anime, books, TV series.. what's wrong if someone will use it also in a videogame?
They are called spin-off (and not sequel) for a reason...
Unless of course, they solved the drive core issue somehow (not implausible) and set off in a huge, self-sufficent ship on a journey that will take hundreds of years.
Nobody's saying the game takes place tomorrow.
True but since Bioware has indicated that some events that happened in the trilogy will be mentioned/alluded to in the new game I think it is reasonable to assume that the new game takes place within a few years of the trilogy. JMO.
And once again, why haven't the Reapers done this millions of years ago?
they did actually reapers dont have to discharge there cores they could make it in 250ish years if they wanted too wether they did or not is somewhat up for debate but the reapers had the capability
“Gaming. . .has changed.
It's no longer about fun, unique gameplay, or quality plots. Gaming--and it's consumption of money--has become a well-oiled business.
Gaming has changed.
Self-Entitled Gamers play DRM-filled games, while developers use graphics as a selling point for 'good' games. Sales inside their software distribution programs enhance and regulate their spending.
Graphical complaints, character complaints, plot complaints, gameplay complaints…everything is complained about and kept under control.
Gaming…has changed.
The age of fun has become the age of entitlement, all in the name of appeasing and averting criticism from rabid fans, and he who complains to the system, controls the future.
Gaming…has changed.
When the medium suffers under total complaints, gamers become volatile.”
This is one of the most nonsensical, pompous attempts at sounding sagacious and superior I've ever read. Where it makes any sesne at all, it places the blame everywhere and so places no blame, in effect saying nothing at all other than, "Gaming... has changed", which is self-evident to anybody not a moron.
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People are generally negative, it's a basic survival traite in humans. We remeber the negatives far more profoundly in general than we do positives. We look back at Mass Effect 3 and DA:I and while they certainly had their good points, the negatives stand out. I won't rehash them, we all know what they were. Coupled with this is the fact that people feel burned. BioWare was one company people really believed in, and then... so I think it's to be expected. Is ME:A is awesome, I think we'll see some small reversals, but given that we are human and thuis nagative and that this is the Internet, we'll never be rid of it now.
I for one welcome welcome our extra-galactic Overlords and, whilst dreading another DA:I style "War Table" and endless busy quests, am cautiously optimistic.
(I'm about to leave so I have not read most of the pages of this thread. I will do later.)
Jaa ne.
And once again, why haven't the Reapers done this millions of years ago?
Because their programming limits them to the Milky Way.
That's really all they are meant for. As machines, they are the pinnacle of evolution, in their creator's mind, and have not advanced past a certain point.
No soul, replaced by tech. No culture, replaced by tech, no limitations and thus need for advancement, as Mordin puts it.
The Reapers have no need to go to another Galaxy when their mission requires them to stay in one, so they had no need to advance their technology to go beyond it.
They probably could, since they likely built and maintained the Mas Relays and have infinite patience, but they had no need to, so therefore they did not do it.
This is one of the most nonsensical, pompous attempts at sounding sagacious and superior I've ever read. Where it makes any sesne at all, it places the blame everywhere and so places no blame, in effect saying nothing at all other than, "Gaming... has changed", which is self-evident to anybody not a moron.
Someone didn't get the reference...
Possibly. But if the Reapers really do have a mandate to preserve organic life against a synthetic threat, then logically they would have a need to worry about Andromeda too.Because their programming limits them to the Milky Way.
That's really all they are meant for. As machines, they are the pinnacle of evolution, in their creator's mind, and have not advanced past a certain point.
No soul, replaced by tech. No culture, replaced by tech, no limitations and thus need for advancement, as Mordin puts it.
The Reapers have no need to go to another Galaxy when their mission requires them to stay in one, so they had no need to advance their technology to go beyond it.
They probably could, since they likely built and maintained the Mas Relays and have infinite patience, but they had no need to, so therefore they did not do it.
Because their programming limits them to the Milky Way.
That's really all they are meant for. As machines, they are the pinnacle of evolution, in their creator's mind, and have not advanced past a certain point.
No soul, replaced by tech. No culture, replaced by tech, no limitations and thus need for advancement, as Mordin puts it.
The Reapers have no need to go to another Galaxy when their mission requires them to stay in one, so they had no need to advance their technology to go beyond it.
They probably could, since they likely built and maintained the Mas Relays and have infinite patience, but they had no need to, so therefore they did not do it.
The Reapers did a lot of things they weren't "meant for" And in fact, their mission would require them to go to another galaxy if they were physically capable of doing so (otherwise synthetics in other galaxies would continue to evolve without a harvest to stop them, making them a threat to this galaxy's life)
Possibly. But if the Reapers really do have a mandate to preserve organic life against a synthetic threat, then logically they would have a need to worry about Andromeda too.
If they believe that organics will inevitably create a runaway AI singularity that would destroy them, then they would believe that one or more of these things must exist in Andromeda. And if these AIs are allowed to evolve to a point where they rival the capabilities of the Reapers, and if they are aggressive and expansionist, then the Reapers should start to worry about them turning up in the Milky Way and slaughtering all the species they were supposed to "protect".
Therefore the Reapers should really be out in all of the Milky Way's neighbouring galaxies that they can reach, nipping potential AI singularities in the bud.
Edit-and, if I recall correctly, astronomers predict that Andromeda and the Milky Way will actually merge in 5 billion years or so, which would be another reason for them to keep an eye on the place given the timescales they work on.
Not if they were limited in cope by their programming, or had to preserve power in Darkspace after a few centuries of war with each cycle.
I don't see a need to subscribe motivations to the Reapers on why they ought to have gone to Andromeda and refused to do so or simply couldn't do it, when for all we know their programming only required them to care about the races of that cycle.
And heck, maybe there were reapers who went to Andromeda. We don't know, not much has been confirmed about the game itself beyond that it takes place in Andromeda, the N7 in the trailer is not the protagonist, we'll be playing as a human, the game takes place hundreds of years after the trilogy, and Johnny Cash sang Ghost Riders in the Sky in the teaser trailer.
I think it's foolish to rush to judgement on the game, what it it will include and what it will not based on such limited information.
Not if they were limited in cope by their programming, or had to preserve power in Darkspace after a few centuries of war with each cycle.
I don't see a need to subscribe motivations to the Reapers on why they ought to have gone to Andromeda and refused to do so or simply couldn't do it, when for all we know their programming only required them to care about the races of that cycle.
And heck, maybe there were reapers who went to Andromeda. We don't know, not much has been confirmed about the game itself beyond that it takes place in Andromeda, the N7 in the trailer is not the protagonist, we'll be playing as a human, the game takes place hundreds of years after the trilogy, and Johnny Cash sang Ghost Riders in the Sky in the teaser trailer.
I think it's foolish to rush to judgement on the game, what it it will include and what it will not based on such limited information.
What if the Reapers did went to Andromeda and reached it, but they were greeted by a really powerful race that was more than capable of defending itself and causing serious damage to the Reaper fleet, thus forcing the Reapers to retreat? Could this very powerful race be the Remnants?
They're mostly afraid of place filler fetch quests, exploration being boring, introduction of new protagonist and enviroment, return of Mako etc.
Some didn't like DA:I, some hated ME 3's ending, some thinks multiplayer part should be removed, some thing multiplayer part should get more love, some think ME:A should run better on PCs, some prefer to play it on console...
A typical day in gaming forums
The real problem is: if we go to andromeda and there was intelligent life there that dwelt there more than 50k years as a star travelling civilization then they made synthetic life and got destroyed by their creation. Now because of the lack of reaper intervention in the galaxy there is only AI controlled malicious creatures in the andromeda. Im afraid to go to such place. The majority might fear the same thing, thats where the negativity is coming from i think.
You jump around from blaming the industry to calling gamer's entitled. God forbid we expect quality from a $80+ dollar product. You sound just like another over dramatic cynic.
Personally, I'm willing to give Andromeda a go. Even if all the doubts are true, which I doubt myself, being able to play a Mass Effect game will still be worth it.
Too bad entitled gamers have caused more trouble that critical players.
Not if they were limited in cope by their programming, or had to preserve power in Darkspace after a few centuries of war with each cycle.
There programming required them to "preserve life by any means necessary" it did not specify a particular galaxy. The reapers also had billions of years to develop the develop the means of traveling to other galaxies which is more than enough time for them to do so.
Why? because people are stupid and the smart ones are sick of the stupid ones telling the smart ones how they are wrong.
The real problem is: if we go to andromeda and there was intelligent life there that dwelt there more than 50k years as a star travelling civilization then they made synthetic life and got destroyed by their creation. Now because of the lack of reaper intervention in the galaxy there is only AI controlled malicious creatures in the andromeda. Im afraid to go to such place. The majority might fear the same thing, thats where the negativity is coming from i think.
Just because the starkid thought so, doesn´t mean that it´s a law of nature. Could be that the apex civilisation turned into something like the Endless from the Endless series or are now beings of pure thought dark matter or so 
and this organic-synthetic thing never came up. Or that the organics won. The protheans managed to keep a machine race contained or even destroyed them.
if you want a scary thought, with no reaper intervention ever 50k years, it could be that we meet a billion year old organic civilisation that could crush the refugees like insects.
But I don´t think we see the Reapers again, would be very odd, switching the setting completely and then keep the major antagonist and the main conflict.
Why? because people are stupid and the smart ones are sick of the stupid ones telling the smart ones how they are wrong.
It's Idiocracy!
“Gaming. . .has changed.
It's no longer about fun, unique gameplay, or quality plots. Gaming--and it's consumption of money--has become a well-oiled business.
Gaming has changed.
Self-Entitled Gamers play DRM-filled games, while developers use graphics as a selling point for 'good' games. Sales inside their software distribution programs enhance and regulate their spending.
Graphical complaints, character complaints, plot complaints, gameplay complaints…everything is complained about and kept under control.
Gaming…has changed.
The age of fun has become the age of entitlement, all in the name of appeasing and averting criticism from rabid fans, and he who complains to the system, controls the future.
Gaming…has changed.
When the medium suffers under total complaints, gamers become volatile.”
You're replying to someone that started his/her post with 'why are so many...'. He/she has no basis for that claim, it's pure speculation, and I disagree with your points. Gaming hasn't changed that much for people that believe in a franchise. People that feel entitled or dissatisfied will always be more vocal than people that are satisfied. This is a solid franchise, the mere fact that multiplayer is still going strong, while not being officially supported anymore for years should tell you enough. There are many other good franchises (GTA series, Fallout, Halo, list is endless)
Just because the starkid thought so, doesn´t mean that it´s a law of nature. Could be that the apex civilisation turned into something like the Endless from the Endless series or are now beings of
pure thoughtdark matter or so
if you want a scary thought, with no reaper intervention ever 50k years, it could be that we meet a billion year old organic civilisation that could crush the refugees like insects.
But I don´t think we see the Reapers again, would be very odd, switching the setting completely and then keep the major antagonist and the main conflict.
If "normal life" lives on its own for hundreds of thousands of years without encountering the synthetic vs organic conflict in andromeda that just validates the stupidity of the catalyst and its nonsensical logic to preserve life. Then the original trilogy's story was to stop a stupid, mad AI, thats it. At least noone gives a damn about that ending confirmed as total bs, so putting intelligent life to meet in andromeda gets green light.
... Still. Mac Walters?.... Mac Walters. A very old name. A hated name.
This is true. Because DAI was a weak ending while ME3's was a bad ending.
In other words, what separated it from being bad, and only being "weak" was the fact that it was happy. Kinda lends itself to what he was saying.
Someone didn't get the reference...
You are correct. Still, I stick by my comments.
In other words, what separated it from being bad, and only being "weak" was the fact that it was happy. Kinda lends itself to what he was saying.
No, DA:I's ending was just....nothing. The final conflict with the big bad was pathetic, and then right at the end they throw a whole new plot at us through a cliffhanger. There simply wasn't a proper conclusion to the game.
ME3 on the other had a proper conlcusion, it was just a badly written one that was utterly inconsistent with the entire rest of the 3 game series it was an ending to.
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