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I'm aware that the current trend in Dragon Age games is to change the protagonist each game. While I agree that it can provide a different perspective and sometimes keep the game 'fresh' I have concerns that much of the character development one has experienced over the 60+ hours they have invested in DAI will in fact be wasted. In fact, I feel that there is a tremendous amount Bioware could do if they retained the same protagonist for at least one more title.

 

For example, if one takes the Mass Effect franchise, Shepard as a result of being the protagonist for three games was able to develop strong relationships with his or her party members. Subsequently, Shepard could reminisce on their previous experiences with Garrus, Tali or Liara which helped provide a more personal element to the Mass Effect franchise while the game could still move forward with a 'save the galaxy' plot against the Reapers. The same could also be said of the Witcher franchise. On Dragon's Age's current course, this is something that will be lacking in DA4. All your experiences, conservations and perhaps romantic moments that your character has gone through will be thrown in the bin when DA4 is released. Sure, you'll hear perhaps the odd sentence or two from Cullen, Cassandra or Solas about their lover (or ex-lover) but that's it. Naturally, a new protagonist will not have the same relationship with those characters as the Inquisitor did.

 

For example, IF Solas was the antagonist for DA4 and the Inquisitor was again the protagonist who romanced him, this could present a very interesting dynamic. Would Solas be willing to harm someone that he had such a fond affection for despite his ambitions? Would you want your Inquisitor to attack Solas even if his actions could lead to the deaths innocents? With a new protagonist, these personal elements with Solas or any member of the Inquisition for that matter are not at all possible. Instead you're dragged back to square one and forced to meet Cullen, Cassandra and Morrigan for the first time (again) as a means to accommodate the casual gamer who can't be asked to play DAI to the detriment of everyone else who bothered to invest time and effort into their Inquisitor and their Inquisition. 

 

This argument doesn't apply to the Inquisitor necessarily but any protagonist that Bioware creates in future Dragon Age titles who is alive in all circumstances (unlike the Warden). Bioware's biggest strength is my view is their ability to create compelling and interesting characters. We as gamers enjoy forming relations with their characters and sometimes they almost feel alive. It's no wonder that Mass Effect franchise that allowed those strong characters the opportunity to develop relationships for three full games rather than just one stands as one of Bioware's most successful franchises. 

 

I understand that Dragon Age is ultimately about Thedas and not one individual character yet at the same time, Dragon Age as a franchise should also accommodate its hardcore fans who actually care about their protagonists and want to see an acceptable and respectful conclusion to their story. So unless Dragon Age Inquisition provides sufficient DLC that will provide a clear conclusion to the Inquisitor's story (which I fear it won't after playing Witch Hunt), Bioware shouldn't be entirely against the idea of returning with the same protagonist in a future Dragon Age games whether that be the Inquisitor or anyone else.


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I had thought the same about Origins and the fate of my Warden. I'm still very much interested in what happened to her. Then DA 2 came out and I reluctantly started playing with this Hawke-person, wondering why Bioware couldn't give me more Warden! And then I fell in love with Hawke, and Varric, and Fenris (oh Fenris!). And I wanted more of Hawke. And then DA:I came out and I was like, ugh, a new one. And then I fell in love with my Inquisitor and, yay! info on my Warden AND Hawke!

 

I do realize that we're all very attached to certain characters and the story is rich and deep enough to continue if they please, but it would somehow seem smaller if they did. I want to know more about Solas and romance Blackwall endlessly, but I think there's a much larger, worldly story to be told than my temporary fascination with the Inquisition. They all plug into each other in one way or another. 


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I had thought the same about Origins and the fate of my Warden. I'm still very much interested in what happened to her. Then DA 2 came out and I reluctantly started playing with this Hawke-person, wondering why Bioware couldn't give me more Warden! And then I fell in love with Hawke, and Varric, and Fenris (oh Fenris!). And I wanted more of Hawke. And then DA:I came out and I was like, ugh, a new one. And then I fell in love with my Inquisitor and, yay! info on my Warden AND Hawke!

 

I do realize that we're all very attached to certain characters and the story is rich and deep enough to continue if they please, but it would somehow seem smaller if they did. I want to know more about Solas and romance Blackwall endlessly, but I think there's a much larger, worldly story to be told than my temporary fascination with the Inquisition. They all plug into each other in one way or another. 

 

 

That's kind of how I swee it too.Both series tell stories of d9ifferent scopes but both stories aer told extremely well so I don't think either series needs too much changing in that regard.



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It depends where they plan to take the story. If they are going to mostly wrap things up in the dlc and move on to a new region, then I wouldn't mind a new PC, and might even prefer it. On the other hand, if we are going to be dealing with major plot threads left over from DAI, then I would prefer to keep the Inquisitor. For example, it was frustrating not to be able to confront Cory as Hawke. Although I know the DA2 expansion was cancelled, so maybe that was the original intention, so I can give it a pass.
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I had thought the same about Origins and the fate of my Warden. I'm still very much interested in what happened to her. Then DA 2 came out and I reluctantly started playing with this Hawke-person, wondering why Bioware couldn't give me more Warden! And then I fell in love with Hawke, and Varric, and Fenris (oh Fenris!). And I wanted more of Hawke. And then DA:I came out and I was like, ugh, a new one. And then I fell in love with my Inquisitor and, yay! info on my Warden AND Hawke!

 

I do realize that we're all very attached to certain characters and the story is rich and deep enough to continue if they please, but it would somehow seem smaller if they did. I want to know more about Solas and romance Blackwall endlessly, but I think there's a much larger, worldly story to be told than my temporary fascination with the Inquisition. They all plug into each other in one way or another. 

 

To me, unlike the Warden who potentially committed the ultimate sacrifice (on my main file) and Hawke who has made a name as the Champion of Kirkwall, DAI is bigger than one character, since it involves the Inquisition which is a institution that has the capacity to expand across the whole of Thedas. How does it fill the void of power in the world in future? Does the Inquisition collapse? These are experiences I'd like to play primarily because they would be a lot of fun. 



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I have my doubts they could even continue a playable worldstate after this. Like it'd be easier to just go to the North and ignore everything down South. At this point, you'd have to make multiple games-within-the-game that are entirely different to do it justice.

 

Or at best, you could have the Inquisition move elsewhere, but not necessarily address Ferelden/Orlais/or the Chantry much.


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Please, anything but another game with the boring as water Inquisitor.


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Please, anything but another game with the boring as water Inquisitor.

 

I hope you mean just still water.

 

Because I could use a beach right now. :D


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To my mind, the real "main character" of this game isn't the Inquisitor anyway, it's the Inquisition itself.  I really think this can work for future games, because we can still see the Inquisition we built in this game, while the character him/herself is safely behind the scenes calling the shots.  So I don't want to see Quizzie ever again, honestly (again, not necessarily because I don't like the character, although it's true I prefer my Warden and Hawke, but more because I think it helps avoid some of the pitfalls that came with those characters in this game).

 

That said, I'm not totally against the idea of a recurring protagonist between two or more games in the series.  I just don't think Quizzie should be the one to be that recurring protagonist.


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The Inquisitor is lackluster. I'm kind of hoping for an interesting protagonist for the next installment.



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I really like the Inquisitor's story and I think there's a lot more that could be done with it in future games.

 

I think they'll get a new character for the next game, though...  I just hope the Inquisitor's story, especially for those of us who romanced Solas, gets proper closure.  Not just "lolz ur gonna die cause ur hand is glowing"  :mellow:



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Please, anything but another game with the boring as water Inquisitor.

Did you know when water is frozen instead of shrinking(like most elements do when they change to solid form) it actually grows? Dont know if its the only element that does this but its definitely in the minority. See? Not so boring and ordinary now is it?


But the topic? Emmm.. idk. I like changing protags because it makes it seem like there's more than one person who doesn't suck ****** ass. But i don't think id mind playing the inquisitor or warden for another game. Id rather Hawke stay dead though.

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Dragon Age and Mass effect are very different universes. They don't work the same way and they don't need to either. Shepard was the driving force behind Mass effect's plot. Yes the Reapers were coming, but Shepard decided to act. Not to mention all three games were against the same antagonist so that Shepard could have one whole cohesive (sort of) character arc.

 

I think the dragon age PCs just aren't like that. Not only is the Big Bad completely different in every game (not just in name, narratively), the characters are shaped by the world more than the other way around.  The Warden is recruited, betrayed, saved and then instructed to save Ferelden. Hawke is just trying not to die while Kirkwall explodes around them. The Inquisitor is doing whatever Leliana, Josephine, and Cassandra tell them to do. None of these characters have enough driving force to carry a second game. I think a lot of attachment to the PCs is more headcanon then what we're really given. Another protagonist on the pile wouldn't hurt at all, it would just allow us to explore a new perspective.


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To me, unlike the Warden who potentially committed the ultimate sacrifice (on my main file) and Hawke who has made a name as the Champion of Kirkwall, DAI is bigger than one character, since it involves the Inquisition which is a institution that has the capacity to expand across the whole of Thedas. How does it fill the void of power in the world in future? Does the Inquisition collapse? These are experiences I'd like to play primarily because they would be a lot of fun. 

The Inquisition has risen to great power, but the main drive had been to settle the war between mages and Templars, and defeat Corypheus. The turmoil between the first two has been underlying throughout the series, but I think that with Corypheus out of the picture, Thedas would go into a calmer state... until another major event (Solas is my prediction) happens. Or the Calling thing. I don't think the Inquisition will collapse, but their goals have been met and their need isn't as great. When you have the anchor and you're the only one that can potentially close the breach, you're awesome. Now the breach is closed though.

 

I think each character had a very distinct role and would branch out, still aiding the Inquisition, but no longer at Skyhold. For instance, Cera - is she the new leader of the Red Jennies? Whoever became divine leaves, right? Iron Bull - does he start a sect for a new Talvashoth? Blackwall - Will he aid the wardens at Weishaupt? Cassandra - Would she form a new group of Seekers? Cullen is mentioned in the dialog (in some cases) as starting the Silver Hand, a new sect of Templars. 

 

I guess what I'm getting at is that I feel the Inquisition's role is almost up. Their members all joined for the purpose of closing the breach, but they do continue to other causes. I don't see how Bioware could continue with these groups of characters and the anchor isn't that important anymore, that we know of. I would hope for an ending like Witch Hunt where we get closure for Solas and maybe hint at the underlying plot about the Calling, or maybe a Quanari war, but I don't think the Inquisitor would be the main role for it.

 

I think there are far more NPC's and groups that a new powerhouse character could be born from - A new apostate clan, recovering templars, Red Jennies, Talvashoth rebels, an elven guard that awakes from slumber in the new world?



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The Inquisition has risen to great power, but the main drive had been to settle the war between mages and Templars, and defeat Corypheus. The turmoil between the first two has been underlying throughout the series, but I think that with Corypheus out of the picture, Thedas would go into a calmer state... until another major event (Solas is my prediction) happens. Or the Calling thing. I don't think the Inquisition will collapse, but their goals have been met and their need isn't as great. When you have the anchor and you're the only one that can potentially close the breach, you're awesome. Now the breach is closed though.

 

I think each character had a very distinct role and would branch out, still aiding the Inquisition, but no longer at Skyhold. For instance, Cera - is she the new leader of the Red Jennies? Whoever became divine leaves, right? Iron Bull - does he start a sect for a new Talvashoth? Blackwall - Will he aid the wardens at Weishaupt? Cassandra - Would she form a new group of Seekers? Cullen is mentioned in the dialog (in some cases) as starting the Silver Hand, a new sect of Templars. 

 

I guess what I'm getting at is that I feel the Inquisition's role is almost up. Their members all joined for the purpose of closing the breach, but they do continue to other causes. I don't see how Bioware could continue with these groups of characters and the anchor isn't that important anymore, that we know of. I would hope for an ending like Witch Hunt where we get closure for Solas and maybe hint at the underlying plot about the Calling, or maybe a Quanari war, but I don't think the Inquisitor would be the main role for it.

 

I think there are far more NPC's and groups that a new powerhouse character could be born from - A new apostate clan, recovering templars, Red Jennies, Talvashoth rebels, an elven guard that awakes from slumber in the new world?

 

I agree, I don't think the Inquisitor will be the main role for future events. I'd just like the Inquisitor or any future protagonist to have the capacity to return in future titles since it can be a great way to develop character relationships. Also, it's important to stress, if the Inquisitor or another protagonist was to return, it wouldn't have to be in the direct sequel. Similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, one could move to a different protagonist or hero in a different setting in the same universe before returning to the same main character later down the line.

 

Some characters may go on to do different things with their lives and leave the Inquisition as Wrex and Liara did in Mass Effect 1-2 yet, some may decide to stay or re-join as Garrus and Tali did while adding new characters to keep the sequel fresh if need be.

 

The Inquisitior's role isn't completely finished. In DAI your advisers mention that there are fade rifts across Thedas beyond Ferelden and Orlais. So unless that's resolved in DLC that's potentially a major plot hole for DA4, should it take place after the events of Inquisition. I'd like a Witch Hunt DLC to address the Solas revelation but I'll have to agree to disagree with you about providing a conclusive ending. If anything, Witch Hunt left me with more questions than answers. For example, if your Warden romanced Morrigan and you go through the portal you have absolutely no idea where your character went until DAI. 

 

Again, I'm not against a new protagonist necessarily (especially your idea of an ancient elf awakening from a slumber - that's an awesome suggestion to me). I am against the current Dragon Age golden rule that every single game must have a new protagonist, as returning protagonist comes with its certain benefits that I tried my best to advocate.  


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Did you know when water is frozen instead of shrinking(like most elements do when they change to solid form) it actually grows? Dont know if its the only element that does this but its definitely in the minority. See? Not so boring and ordinary now is it?

 

Yes, and it's still boring.



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Okay, the thing about protagnists is this series, is that they have reflected the scope of the story.  We got to see the Warden become a Warden by being forced away from his/her old life, one way or another depending on that origin story.  

 

Hawke was just some guy with a family, and a personality that we got to choose: his life scarred by the death of his first sibling at the hands of the Blight (the antagonist of the first game) but his life and the tragedies that befell him reflected the expanding world of Thedas outside of the constant darkspawn threat (blood magic killed his mother, and the mage templar war affected his life, depending on if he or his sister was a mage).  That reflected his admittably minor role in the overall story in comparison to the Inquisitor or the Warden.

 

We got to see them rise from their specific origin to the protagonist Bioware let us develop them into.  Same goes with the Inquisitor, except we don't get more than some references to their backstory.

 

Now that all of that is said and done, here's the thing:  if Bioware was going to make a multi-title protagonist for some Dragon Age games, they would have to let us create and develop a character that reacts to multiple conflicts (of the multiple games they are in) and if the story is any good, adapts and develops to meet this.  The danger is that one character can, feasibly, only do so much.  It's kinda like Varric said to Cassandra when she suggested that they should have let Hawke be the Inquisitor:  "You people have done enough to him."  Granted Hawke wasn't the most liked protagonist, Varric had a point: a single person can only save the world so many times, and if the scope of the conflicts in future titles in Dragon Age keep getting bigger like they, I just don't think one playable character can make it feel like you rose to the occasion.  Imagine by game 3, "Well, he/she has already saved the world twice now from the Maker himself, how do you think the third game is going to end?"

 

Or something like that.



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"Who will it be" you see how would that make a problem, for me the inquisitor is the least interesting person he's a lucky bastard that's all and am done with him, but still s/he has a large fan base and story wise it will make sense for him/her to be the protagonist in the next sequel after building the inquisition to tremendous strength.

I want the warden back all we know he is far west of the Anderfels in a land untouched by the blight, what he is up to, what's happened to him after years of killing urthemiel is unknown.

Another folks want Hawke.

So it is up to the good lads in bioware to come up with a solution, i too don't prefer a new protagonist, but i as all have a favorite.

we'll wait and see, i trust bioware we'll do the best.



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One major problem with having a new protaganist in DA universe is that you feel alienated and disconnected towards the choices you have made when you are facing the qonsequenses of your actions. And it is always a clean slate every single time it gets tedious when you are a veteran and the game itself has to explain over and over introducing new fans for the DA universe. And you will go: "I ALREADY KNOW THIS"

In a game where decisions matters( which it hasnt happened yet in any way) different PC in my opinion doesnt work. You play in a certain way and each character response is different because you will always have favorite. And you cant really play the same way with different characters. It doesnt feel right.

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I'd take developing both my protagonist and their relationships any day over some vague idea of a "new perspective" that has never really done anything for me. That was probably the single greatest thing about Mass Effect. The Inquisitor may be my least favourite of the three protagonists, but I'd rather play as her again (especially with this grand organization you spent all this time building up and the fact that you can't retire or dissolve the Inquisition) than have more character-whiplash. I'm already sick of it :mellow:

 

In addition, while I love seeing Alistair and other characters again, so much is lost when you're meeting them "for the first time" again. There is a huge disconnect, because the character is saying "Pleased to meet you" and you're thinking "I know you! You don't remember me?" That also totally changes the dynamic of decisions and dialogue because you know more than the character. You have to metagame. You'll probably be more sympathetic and it will alter your decisions, but also alter the decisions of Bioware.

 

I don't want to see Varric as the Inquisitor, I want to see him as Hawke! I don't want to see Alistair and Morrigan as the Inquisitor, I want to see them as the Warden! I feel like so much is lost with new protagonists.


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I found what I've previously written on the subject, and it's rather lengthy, so I didn't want to try to word it all again because I'm sure I wouldn't do it as elegantly:

I agree completely. I prefer ME's style of having one protagonist to develop over time, and the relationships to that protagonist that can naturally develop more than if you keep switching them. I call it "character-whiplash". Running into old characters is nice and all, but a lot of gravity and significance is lost when your current character has no emotional connection to them, and creates a disconnect since the player does. I want to see Alistair as the Warden, Varric as Hawke, etc.

I agree. Obviously, opinions will differ, but I haven't felt like I've gained much from having multiple protagonists. After all, I had no trouble learning about the ME 'verse with one. In fact, another reason I like that approach better is because Shepard seemed less like a complete ignoramus than DA's protagonists. Sure, in ME1, you didn't really know anything, but that's better than your DA characters all not knowing anything, game after game, even when the player does. Disconnects are bad.

 

The relationships/story are also the heart of why I play these games, and I hate that they suffer for having multiple protagonists, because I don't think the trade-off is worth it by any stretch. I felt like by the end of Inquisition, I was just getting to know the inner circle; just getting to be friends with Dorian, Cassandra, Cole, Cullen, Varric (and never got to the friendship Hawke had, like you said). Now I want to play as their friend, like I did in ME, not just treat being their friend as some endgame that has no reward. Saying "We're friends now" is great, but nothing compared to actually seeing the developed relationship in play. Just when that starts to happen, BAM! We start with a new cast again. This is a huge reason I'm desperate for story/character DLC.

I agree, it's hard to connect to your avatar properly. I have a feeling they wanted to have Hawke be the Shepard-like protagonist through at least 2 games, but scrapped the idea after DA2 didn't do as well as they'd hoped. There are a lot of similarities and apparently a lot of the Exalted March expansion ended up being in DA:I. I would have loved that.

 

I hope that they use the Inquisitor again to be honest. Maybe it's unlikely, but I feel like the fact that you have to have a fully operational Inquisition and not retire after DA:I would be wasted otherwise, as well as the idea the Inquisitor being pushed to the sidelines would be very strange and unrealistic. And I don't want a third super-influential person to "mysteriously go missing". I actually prefer the Warden and Hawke to Quizzy, but I'd rather continue her arc and development (as well as use the Inquisition) than start again... again.

 

I'd also be for a single protagonist for the north if we can't have the Inquisitor. I've just had enough swapping and want something to build on, whoever it is.

 



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Let me say something crazy - how about we bring all of the previous protagonists back? Gradually.

 

The DA:O ending was very much "you have not heard the last of the Warden yet, the Warden will kick some serious ass, just you wait". And then the Warden disappears. But why is that such a big problem to bring the Warden back? Race select? Boom. We have that - we can implement other races, not just humans. And we will voice the Warden this time. Yes, some people would grumble, but in the end you can either have the Warden come back and get over the fact that they now have a voice (by the way, why wouldnt you want that?), or you get nothing. I think the former is not that tough a pill to swallow.

 

Hawke clearly had big plans ahead of them, but after so many people hated DA2 so much (again - why? yes, some assets were reused, but it is a pretty good game overall) they axed Hawke entirely because BioWare does nothing as well as over-correction. There is still more to Hawke, dammit!

 

And the Inquisitor is in charge of a small empire possessing powers no mortal has ever possessed, capable of doing things which, when they were done the last time, unleashed the first Blight, and they did not really explore these issues to their fullest in Inquisition. Or at all.

 

So how about they take turns?

 

First off, you have the whole Calling thing going on with the Warden - yeah, how is that coming along, by the way? There are things going on in Weisshaupt. Having your reputation, you would already be in a position to issue orders and make decisions. You can have Deep Roads involved, explore some more Warden lore, perhaps go travel the world in search of griffins, work on Calling, fight the Blight, perhaps discover another Magister and learn more about what went down back then. Red Lyrium could tie into this easily, and it is a thing that is connected to the other two - Hawke and the Inquisitor.

 

Hawke has three big themes going for them - the mage/templar conflict, which also ties into Blood Magic and a background rooted in Kirkwall, a city with roots in slavery, and the Qunari. All of these things play a prominent role in - wait for it - Tevinter. So the Hawk gets un-lost or makes his/her way out of the Fade (because thats how badass they roll) and they go up north to check what is going on in there. Now the primary issues here would be mages and the Qunari conflict, but Tevinter also ties into the Chantry, which is big theme for...

 

The Inquisitor. They deal with all things Chantry, the Fade and old elven gods. They already have this heavy religious theme around them - be it the Andrastian religion or trying to figure out the elven gods. With their abilities, the Inquisitor could spend more time in the Fade, try to understand it better, figure out just what it is, how these various plains of existence work etc. Through the Chantry and through Red Lyrium, the Inquisitor also ties to the two others.

 

What I am trying to get across is that it perhaps would not be entirely out of the realm of possibility to rotate these protagonists between games - in DA4, you deal with Wardeny things with the Warden, in DA5, you go to Tevinter with Hawke, in DA6, you are once more the Inquisitor, trying to understand the mysteries of the Fade and demons, the old gods and the Chantry. Being interconnected, the stories could tie into each other and work off each other. Plus, you would have the added benefit of some of your companion returning and it not being weird and actually making sense (I mean, Varric belongs with Hawke. As much as I love him, having him around in Inquisition never quite sat right with me). Think connected universe. Something like the Marvel movies with it all finally culminating in an Avengers - level event. Wouldnt that be neat? Or am I just talking crazy again?


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Let me say something crazy - how about we bring all of the previous protagonists back? Gradually.

The DA:O ending was very much "you have not heard the last of the Warden yet, the Warden will kick some serious ass, just you wait". And then the Warden disappears. But why is that such a big problem to bring the Warden back? Race select? Boom. We have that - we can implement other races, not just humans. And we will voice the Warden this time. Yes, some people would grumble, but in the end you can either have the Warden come back and get over the fact that they now have a voice (by the way, why wouldnt you want that?), or you get nothing. I think the former is not that tough a pill to swallow.

Hawke clearly had big plans ahead of them, but after so many people hated DA2 so much (again - why? yes, some assets were reused, but it is a pretty good game overall) they axed Hawke entirely because BioWare does nothing as well as over-correction. There is still more to Hawke, dammit!

And the Inquisitor is in charge of a small empire possessing powers no mortal has ever possessed, capable of doing things which, when they were done the last time, unleashed the first Blight, and they did not really explore these issues to their fullest in Inquisition. Or at all.

So how about they take turns?

First off, you have the whole Calling thing going on with the Warden - yeah, how is that coming along, by the way? There are things going on in Weisshaupt. Having your reputation, you would already be in a position to issue orders and make decisions. You can have Deep Roads involved, explore some more Warden lore, perhaps go travel the world in search of griffins, work on Calling, fight the Blight, perhaps discover another Magister and learn more about what went down back then. Red Lyrium could tie into this easily, and it is a thing that is connected to the other two - Hawke and the Inquisitor.

Hawke has three big themes going for them - the mage/templar conflict, which also ties into Blood Magic and a background rooted in Kirkwall, a city with roots in slavery, and the Qunari. All of these things play a prominent role in - wait for it - Tevinter. So the Hawk gets un-lost or makes his/her way out of the Fade (because thats how badass they roll) and they go up north to check what is going on in there. Now the primary issues here would be mages and the Qunari conflict, but Tevinter also ties into the Chantry, which is big theme for...

The Inquisitor. They deal with all things Chantry, the Fade and old elven gods. They already have this heavy religious theme around them - be it the Andrastian religion or trying to figure out the elven gods. With their abilities, the Inquisitor could spend more time in the Fade, try to understand it better, figure out just what it is, how these various plains of existence work etc. Through the Chantry and through Red Lyrium, the Inquisitor also ties to the two others.

What I am trying to get across is that it perhaps would not be entirely out of the realm of possibility to rotate these protagonists between games - in DA4, you deal with Wardeny things with the Warden, in DA5, you go to Tevinter with Hawke, in DA6, you are once more the Inquisitor, trying to understand the mysteries of the Fade and demons, the old gods and the Chantry. Being interconnected, the stories could tie into each other and work off each other. Plus, you would have the added benefit of some of your companion returning and it not being weird and actually making sense (I mean, Varric belongs with Hawke. As much as I love him, having him around in Inquisition never quite sat right with me). Think connected universe. Something like the Marvel movies with it all finally culminating in an Avengers - level event. Wouldnt that be neat? Or am I just talking crazy again?

I literally said something similar in a different post this is the only and best way bioware could have creatively made the series revolve around the Dragon age the and recurring protagonist at the same time. no one person can or should be able to be at every major event that takes place in a entire continent for a whole era. Having it be the 1st three games be the individual raise of 3 major players in the Dragon AGE and the next 3 be the continuation of there stories followed by a last epic finale would not only be cool but unique because no game series has done this before. But bioware kinda messed that up with how they handled the past protagonist, sure there is a way to kinda save the idea by using the warden commander who regardless if HoF or not is canonly alive but there is still the hawke issue which is harder to clean up. A nice idea but can't happen now, if anything a new protagonist can be made for DA4 if a trilogy of games revolving around there events in the Dragon AGE at best.
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I literally said something similar in a different post this is the only and best way bioware could have creatively made the series revolve around the Dragon age the and recurring protagonist at the same time. no one person can or should be able to be at every major event that takes place in a entire continent for a whole era. Having it be the 1st three games be the individual raise of 3 major players in the Dragon AGE and the next 3 be the continuation of there stories followed by a last epic finale would not only be cool but unique because no game series has done this before. But bioware kinda messed that up with how they handled the past protagonist, sure there is a way to kinda save the idea by using the warden commander who regardless if HoF or not is canonly alive but there is still the hawke issue which is harder to clean up. A nice idea but can't happen now, if anything a new protagonist can be made for DA4 if a trilogy of games revolving around there events in the Dragon AGE at best.

 

Yeah I see your point, you are absolutely right. And that is so interesting that we thought of similar concepts :D But I think we can agree that a set of rotating protagonists could strike some sort of a balance between a set protagonist and a new one for each game - that way, the fate of the whole world does not rest on the shoulders of one person, but you also get to spend enough time with these people (them taking turns in being the center of each of their respective games) to actually care about them. I get how different DA is from ME and I get what they are trying to do with DA, but every time I fire up a DA game, I do it knowing I will not see this person I am about to get to know ever again after this is done and I am just not as invested. Then, again, this being the Dragon AGE, as you put it, spanning an entire century, makes it quite unrealistic of being carried on the shoulders of a fixed character, or even characters. Still, a cast that changes every once in a while and passes down the torch to their successors could be an interesting thing to see. Although I do not know how realistic.

 

Also, a question - do you think that if we ever reach the end of the Dragon Age, will the property be discontinued or will it continued under the title of whatever new age follows suit?



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My suggestion based on @Phoenix post is this:

 

Like it was said, there is major issues happening with the wardens. Civil war seems to be about to break out in Weisshaupt. Hawke will be there, or the warden ally. And if the HoF does manage to get info on the cure of the calling, what better place to deliver the news if not Weisshaupt? An DLC set there could help set things into a full circle. An major event happens were you see the fate of the warden order, and we get an last swang song for all of our previous protagonists. What an better ending could we hope for? Maybe after the ending of the DLC we get an epilogue slide showing the ultimate fate of the major characters of the DLC.

 

After the obvious endgame DLC with Solas. I think could finally move away from our old protagonists. And any sequel could either be set far away from south Thedas or decades away, giving enough time for our old protagonists to disappear from the picture.