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Please add a augmentation system to the game.


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In Mass Effect we are told how N7 Soldiers and various other classes have cybernetic augmentations, on in the case of biotics how they were augmented while before being born. In the medical bay of the Normandy you could have Shepard augmented to use abilities s/he otherwise wouldn't have such as biotics on a non-biotic shepard, you could also have scars removed and so on. Shepard in ME2 could have several upgrades made to their body such as nanoweave fibers being sown into their skin to make them more resilient to harm.

 

What I would like to see come to the Mass Effect universe is the idea of purchasable cybernetic and bio-engineered upgrades to the protagonist and possibly crewmates, and im not just talking about passive bonuses though those are indeed plausible ones, but things that take the science fiction of it into the imagined far future, where a human with the right amount of credits and authorization could augment themselves to be truly beyond human. Cybernetic Eyes that actually give you new abilities and change your information your characters eyes perceive, maybe vision changes to something like the T-800s from Terminator. Perhaps bio-engineer for cosmetic as well as offensive use, like allowing you to alter the new protagonist appearance or even gender, or more directly offensive uses like being altered so that if you didn't have biotics before you have them now, (Krogan are said to under go a operation to give them biotic abilities and should they survive whala.), or the possibility of adding natural weapons like wrist spurs think Tyr Anasazi from Andromeda (heh)

 

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perhaps it can go a be further with things like metal laced bones. Maybe there are consequences to these augmentations, drawbacks both socially and physically as well as advantages. I don't remember all the backstory behind the Nietzscheans in Andromeda but I do recall something about them being off-shoots of humanity who allowed genetic engineering to make them in their eyes perfect in every way, stronger, faster, tougher and naturally armed in comparison to normal humans. 

 

Now before anyone reminds me I know that Earth governments took steps to outlaw this genetic engineering so as to alter future descendants but if i recall they were okay with it so long as it only affected the individual. However this is a new galaxy, it might be fun to push the limits of science fiction for the new protagonist, especially if it has story repercussions. I'd like to see just how far BioWare and its writers/producers/designers could go with it. 

 

Nothing wrong with making yourself into a Superman/Superwoman in game is it?


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I rather BioWare make a good game instead of throwing everything at the game and hope something works by adding every feature that a person can dream up.



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I rather BioWare make a good game instead of throwing everything at the game and hope something works by adding every feature that a person can dream up.

Its BioWare, im not worried about their ability to tell a good story, what people seem to consider a bad game from them actually seems to boil down to every but the story.



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Its BioWare, im not worried about their ability to tell a good story, what people seem to considered a bad game from them actually seems to boil down to every but the story.

 

There is more then just story to a BIoWare game otherwise I would be avoiding them like the TellTale games. I rather not have them keep adding more and more to these games just to give people what they want instead of BioWare making the game they want.



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There is more then just story to a BIoWare game otherwise I would be avoiding them like the TellTale games. I rather not have them keep adding more and more to these games just to give people what they want instead of BioWare making the game they want.

im sorry i was under the impression that games evolve over time, that continuously regurgitating the same thing over and over was what tankered the platform games like Sonic. Like it or not new features is one staples of a on going franchise, least you not have your multiplayer, your weapon mods, biotic combos, space boost (lol),  and so on, and unless buying things to improve the character is new to core game concepts I don't see how your argument applies here.



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If Bioware were to added anything to the game I would hope it would be stealth gameplay.

 

The augmentation thing you are suggesting isn't too different from customising weapons, armour and skills. So I don't see the point.



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Give me pink biotics!!!


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Cybernetic system, as long as they don't lock "pure humanoids" from doing things, is cool. (As a choice, not like "You need to get this to beat that guy" style)

 

If let's say it lowers HP but increases melee damage kinda balanced with pros and cons it'll be even better.



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I started a thread like this one a little while back asking for Mass Effect to further embrace cybernetics and genetic engineering. I'm actually quite for cybernetics being featured more in the story as well as genetic engineering considering the supposed technological leap. What surprised me in the thread though is some people linked some interesting videos talking about cybernetics we're currently working on. If you want to give the original thread a  quick look for amusing videos here it is http://forum.bioware...embraced/page-1but effectively the cybernetics of ME are actually very lacking considering what we're already working on. 

 

You might also want to look into Cyberpunk 2077. There isn't much detail out for it but there is enough to get me reading Cyberpunk 2020. They've got some interesting systems for handling cybernetics. including the notion that if you upgrade your body too quickly the mind may not be able to adapt to the changes and you could lose it. I love this 

 

analysis of the trailer. 



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I never asked for this on the Citadel.


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I rather BioWare make a good game instead of throwing everything at the game and hope something works by adding every feature that a person can dream up.

 

This doesn't seem constructive. You could shoot down almost any idea or suggestion on this forum with bullshit like this but it doesn't add much to the conversation.

 

The request doesn't seem that outlandish given that it would be expanding the existing customization to include the protagonist's body and it is something that already exists in the setting.



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What surprised me in the thread though is some people linked some interesting videos talking about cybernetics we're currently working on. If you want to give the original thread a  quick look for amusing videos here it is http://forum.bioware...embraced/page-1but effectively the cybernetics of ME are actually very lacking considering what we're already working on.

The Mass Effects universe is lacking in every department. This is a universe wherein even the pseudoscience is lacking. Bioware need to build the supports for the house first, before they even think about painting it.



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im sorry i was under the impression that games evolve over time, that continuously regurgitating the same thing over and over was what tankered the platform games like Sonic. Like it or not new features is one staples of a on going franchise, least you not have your multiplayer, your weapon mods, biotic combos, space boost (lol),  and so on, and unless buying things to improve the character is new to core game concepts I don't see how your argument applies here.

 

They are basically going back to the drawing board with Andromeda, so there is already plenty of evolution possible in Andromeda without adding another system to the game.  We have a new protagonist, new crew, new ship, new galaxy to explore, the Mako returning, and exploration elements added back in combined with moving to a completely different game engine I can't see the game being stagnant.  I rather they make sure all the new systems and designs work before adding even more to it.



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This doesn't seem constructive. You could shoot down almost any idea or suggestion on this forum with bullshit like this but it doesn't add much to the conversation.

 

The request doesn't seem that outlandish given that it would be expanding the existing customization to include the protagonist's body and it is something that already exists in the setting.

 

I don't see how it isn't constructive to have a concern with adding another system to a game in development. I had the exact same concern with adding additional races to Dragon Age: Inquisition because it would feel like something that was added just before the deadline to add content to the game and not part of the entire design process.  Yes this might add more customization to the game, but I am concerned about adding augmentations to a character that can already being highly customized could make either an extremely strong or weak character in the game if not part of the entire design process or worse yet they do nothing to the game which causes more frustration in the players.



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So. . .Shadowrun. . .?



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Mass Effect 2 had research upgrades like "bone lattice," and "muscle fiber something something." They weren't very interesting though.

 

Making a proper TPS/RPG is hard enough, so adding in a whole new progression system (especially if it's tied to the monetary economy) would be pretty tough. I'd like BioWare to refine their existing leveling system before attempting something like that.


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I'm all for Cybernetics and Augmentations to be introduced into the Story, in Fact, I think they should go even further and introduce actual Cyborg Characters (as a Companion, for Example.) I always liked these Conflicts about Transhumanism and BioWare's Take on this would surely be very interesting.

 

As for Gameplay, it could be a nice Progression Mechanic, but I would limit it to mayb eone or two Characters, who's Stories will then deal with this Conflict like "When do I stop being human and become something new?" If you like to read up on such Things, I can only recommend the Novel "NEXUS", where one of these Permutations is explored in Depth.


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