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#51
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Shepard is life around these parts.....

 

People just need to accept the fact that in a lot of ways, ME:A is sort of a soft reboot. It will carry over the same lore and universe, but in a different timeframe and location. Think of the Star Wars Original Trilogy and KOTOR. Both are Star Wars and both takes place in the same universe, but KOTOR has its own set locations, characters, factions, and stories while the OT has it's own.

 

People just need to accept this fact and let it go about Shepard being in ME:A or Shepard's relatives being mentioned. I do believe that Shepard will be mentioned in a vague context, but that will pretty much be it.

 

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Wouldn't work out unless the mother was fem shp with Kaidan or a male with ash or jac, as Miranda can't have kids, and we play as a human 



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People just need to accept the fact that in a lot of ways, ME:A is sort of a soft reboot. It will carry over the same lore and universe, but in a different timeframe and location. Think of the Star Wars Original Trilogy and KOTOR. Both are Star Wars and both takes place in the same universe, but KOTOR has its own set locations, characters, factions, and stories while the OT has it's own.

 

People just need to accept this fact and let it go about Shepard being in ME:A or Shepard's relatives being mentioned. I do believe that Shepard will be mentioned in a vague context, but that will pretty much be it.

 

Lol I love Shepard, the hero, the tank, the charmer, the badass, the G.O.A.T. There will never be another Shep...

But i'm not dull, i know why Shepard is done. canonizing one of endings will leave a oily mess on the lore i get it hell i agree completely.

So even though that's the case i'm NEVER letting go, but i will move on............quietly.

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#54
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Not possible for so many obvious reasons.

 

I wonder if the OP even thought this through before posting this thread...



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So then big question. You guys know who you dont want. Explain to me who you wish to have saving the sister galaxy?


That's easy. No one in particular. i don't want my PC's background to be of any importance whatsoever. Just an ordinary soldier/freighter captain/whatever the plot calls for.
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All Squadmates can die during the course of the Mass Effect series.

Of those squadmates, only the following could produce an offspring of Shepard,, all others are either not a compatible species or are non-romanceable:

 

- Ashley (Male Shepard): Can die at Virmire or the Citadel in ME3. Or a low EMS finale at Earth, where they are killed by Harbinger.

- Kaiden (Female Shepard): Can die at Virmire or the Citadel in ME3. Or a low EMS finale at Earth, where they are killed by Harbinger.

- Jacob (Female Shepard): Can die at the Collector Base or during their mission in ME3. Left Shepard for another woman.

- Jack (Male Shepard); Fertility status unknown, possible infertile from heavy experimentation. Can die at the Collector Base or at the Cerberus Base in ME3 if not recruited in the events prior.

- Liara (Either Shepard): Offspring would be Asari. Liara can die during a low EMS finale at Earth, where they are killed by Harbinger.

 

Miranda is not listed here as she is confirmed infertile in the Shadow Broker's data files.

 

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Now for the following facts to contemplate:

 

- The issue with a female Shepard giving birth is that the events of the Mass Effect trilogy do not allow any time for Shepard to have gone through pregnancy. The only possible way that a human Shepard child could exist is if she was made pregnant by Kaiden before she was then killed by the Collectors at the beginning of ME2, and Cerberus took the fetus inside of her, revived it as well, and made it a cyborg. Even if this was true there is the possibility that the process would leave it infertile, not to mention heavily mutilated and possibly unable to grow. It would be roughly two and a half to three years old by the events of Mass Effect 3. . . one would believe she would have found out about this abomination if it existed.

 

The other possibility is that she was pregnant right before she died in three out of the four endings of Mass Effect Three, assuming one has a high EMS when selecting Destroy.

 

- The issue with a child born from a Male Shepard's love interest is similar in principle to that faced by a female Shepard: there is no time for a child to be born from Ashley or Jack. Of these two characters Ashley is the most likely candidate, as we do not know if the extensive testing on Jack has made her infertile. Even if she has the potential to be fertile, Jack (and Ashley) can die in numerous ways leaving no room for birthing let alone pregnancy.

 

However, if Ashley was indeed pregnant and gave birth to Shepard's child, which would have occurred at some point before the official beginning of Mass Effect 2, one would believe that this is something that she would tell him at any of the points they have communicated during the events of Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.

 

- The other possibility is that Liara may or may not have mind-molested Shepard at multiple points in the trilogy, as their system of reproduction can also be used as a form of information transference if I understand that concept proper: Any non-Asari would not be able to tell the difference unless it was an Ardat-Yakshi, in which case they would feel a lot of death. This brings up a few moral questions I do not believe the Developers would be willing to talk about. This could be cleared up by canonizing Liara as Shepard's romantic interest (see conclusion)

 

- The final possibility is that Shepard had a child prior to the events of ME1 with some other romantic partner, but you think that would be mentioned to the player at some point.

 

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The most notable issue is in canonization. Bioware does not seem willing to canonize an ending, as the move to Andromeda seems a deliberate attempt to avoid the Shepard trilogy and forge a new path through the stars.This does not just mean they do not want to canonize an ending, however: it is clear that they do not want to canonize anything: Shepard's gender, Shepard's love interest, or the various other decisions Shepard made during their adventures.

 

By moving various races to Andromeda they can avoid mention of certain fan-favorite races being wiped out (EX. Krogan on the Ark were not subgegated to the sabotaged Genophage or Quarians on the Ark were not at Rannoch when the Geth destroyed them) by the product of some of these choices. The Shepard is a legend, and no one knows the full details of their story, for it was a long time ago. . .it's best to keep it that way without someone appearing with the risk of acting like a self-entitled king/queen.

 

Aaaaaaaand: Abandon Thread.

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So how does that work, exactly?

 

Is it like the Sims, where you play with genetics in CC?

 

And wouldn't Liara pop out an Asari? Thought we weren't doing other races...



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No biological offspring of Shepard.

 

(Throws Shepard's corpse into incinerator and cranks dial up to "Sun")


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Now for the following facts to contemplate:

 

Mass Effect trilogy do not allow any time for Shepard to have gone through pregnancy. The only possible way that a human Shepard child could exist is if she was made pregnant by Kaiden before she was then killed by the Collectors at the beginning of ME2, and Cerberus took the fetus inside of her, revived it as well, and made it a cyborg. 

 

 

I know a perfect time frame, how about that time after the arrival DLC when the alliance took you into protective custody? It was over 6 months, and Shepard could have been pregnant before that (3 months before to be exact) with idk Jacob? it's a little iffy but it could work if tweaked by a less lazier mind then i...



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I've got a better idea.

 

How about.. we play as a nobody protagonist, who finds out at the end of the game.. that he/she is really Shepard. Brought back to life.. again, and sent to Andromeda for whatever reason.


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I know a perfect time frame, how about that time after the arrival DLC when the alliance took you into protective custody? It was over 6 months, and Shepard could have been pregnant before that (3 months before to be exact) with idk Jacob? it's a little iffy but it could work if tweaked by a less lazier mind then i...

 

Yeah sure, and the new mother never even mentions her child nor does she care that it is still on Earth when the Reapers attack. :P


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I've got a better idea.

 

How about.. we play as a nobody protagonist, who finds out at the end of the game.. that he/she is really Shepard. Brought back to life.. again, and sent to Andromeda for whatever reason.

 

So basically KOTOR.

Yeahhhhh no.

 

People really should learn to let Shepard go and accept that Shep will not be part of ME:A in any way (aside from maybe a few honorable mentions by some NPCs).



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or we could not....



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Yeah sure, and the new mother never even mentions her child nor does she care that it is still on Earth when the Reapers attack. :P

 

You mean that's not normal for mothers to do? Next you're gonna tell me that leaving newborns in bushes while its raining outside is a bad parental move. Everything I've been told about being a mother is a lie. :lol:


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*sigh* Shepard is going to the Mass Effect version of The Warden on this forum, aren't they?


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Yeah sure, and the new mother never even mentions her child nor does she care that it is still on Earth when the Reapers attack. :P

 

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LMFAO! it sounds hilarious when you put it that way. But hey my goal was just to make it valid not morally correct (but it is ridiculous lol)


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*sigh* Shepard is going to the Mass Effect version of The Warden on this forum, aren't they?

this isn't as bad as with the warden, the Warden's story was ended conclusively and they weren't ever coming back.

 

Shepard's story ended rather inconclusively, with the state of the Milky Way and our Shepards either depressingly dead or teased at and that's it.  For many players there is no resolution to Shepard's storyline.


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So basically KOTOR.

Yeahhhhh no.

 

People really should learn to let Shepard go and accept that Shep will not be part of ME:A in any way (aside from maybe a few honorable mentions by some NPCs).

 

I have. I'm just stirring. ;)

 

 

*sigh* Shepard is going to the Mass Effect version of The Warden on this forum, aren't they?

 

.. Yep :whistle: Request for Hero of Milky Way DLC (post ME:A release)


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Looks like we've got an early leader for worst BSN idea of the month.
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Yeah... he was a human supremacist who betrayed the Citadel and the Council to Cerberus, tried to blame Shepard for that and almost killed the Asari Councilor. All that while an extinction level war was happening in the galaxy.

 

That poor, misunderstood man.

 

Don't misunderstand me. The guy was desperate to get help for Earth after the Council, in their infinite wisdom, did nothing. Was turning to Cerberus the right thing to do? Hell no. Did it accomplish anything? Absolutely not. But it was definitely the action of a desperate and selfish (for the right reasons in this case) man.

 

HOWEVER, don't deny that Bioware, rather than develop him some more like they did at the beginning of the game, decided to simply kill him off in order to please the fans who wanted him dead.

Besides, the asari councilor honestly deserved a bullet to the head. Both Tevos and Irissa (that's her name, right?).  



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*pops back into his thread*

Besides, everyone knows that Shepard already has a child (who can die during the events of ME2 or ME3 if not loyal in the prior):

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*pops back into his thread*

Besides, everyone knows that Shepard already has a child (who can die during the events of ME2 or ME3 if not loyal in the prior):

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Grunt is forever all of my Shepard's child. Love that part with him and C-sec in that Citdel DLC.  :D


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Grunt is forever all of my Shepard's child. Love that part with him and C-sec in that Citdel DLC.   :D

Yeah, all the Grunt fanart of him being Shepard's child are adorable.

 

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Aaaaanyways: Abandon Thread.

 

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Sure does. Explain how the mother and her child survived the Refusal ending please? Or how a kid could have been born so it could be on board the Tempest before the Reapers arrived?

 

For starters, you know nothing about the Tempest and how they get to Andromeda, to assume you are correct makes you look foolish.  But if you want to play that game, Liara is the Shadow Broker, it's a full laugh and a half if you actually believe she wouldn't know about some project to leave the galaxy and would obvious plant her child on it.

 

Secondly we also don't how the current species lost during a refusal ending, Liara could have easily skipped away and hid on a vacant planet for hundreds of years while everyone else died, something she actually mentioned.  But if everyone is dead, nobody could leave the galaxy.  Refusal was thrown into the EC as a troll ending for fans, that's all it was, nobody considers it an ending, Mass Effect 3 had 3 endings, Refusal was a joke, a straight up middle finger to fans that hated the original endings.

 

Keep in mind, I don't think Liara actually snatched Shepard's DNA, but to eliminate it as a possibility, especially with how much the writers love Liara, I can't do that.


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Funny. I thought Refuse was there for the RP.