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[andy6915]

I've been making my Keep diverse by making class and race and even gender mixed up in all 3 games. Male dwarf warrior with female rogue Hawke and female mage qunari, that sort of thing. But I'm thinking about doing a full series playthrough again, and I want to play a male dwarf noble warrior in DAO... And my first male character in DAI, a dwarf. Granted it will be a rogue dwarf (different class), but still. So does anyone else do this? Honestly, having 2 humans if I choose human in DAI with mandatory-human Hawke doesn't bother me as much because Hawke didn't save the world or even Kirkwall. It's the HoF and the Inquisitor sharing an attribute that bugs me, because it makes it like one race is always more badass than everyone else. Having both people who saved the entire world or at least an entire country both be dwarves (or elves or especially human thanks to Hawke) would really bug me. But the game does give a bonus for that, the HoF's letter in DAI has them add a special note to you if the HoF was a dwarf or a Dalish and the Inquisitor is also Dalish or dwarven. So I don't know.

 

Play 2 dwarven heroes, do so but make the Keep retcon the Warden I played as, or not do either and play an elf or something?

[Vigilance97]

I totally know what you mean. My canon warden is a male human warrior, I'm not willing to change that. Hawke always being human is very annoying to me, but at least I can change the gender. So Hawke is always female for me, and the inquisitor is NEVER human. Class depends on what Hawke is in that world state(mage or rogue), I always try to have each protagonist be a different class.

 

As for what you should do, I'm not sure what to tell you. You have to decide that yourself. But in your place I wouldn't make them both dwarfs, not in the games nor in the keep.

[JadeDragon]

I diversify by class as all my heroes are human males. But i also use small things such as hair and eye color and personality to keep my heroes diverse. So if you gonna roll two dwarves make there outlook on being a dwarf different because one is a surface dwarf while one is not.

[Toasted Llama]

I usually pair 2 (or 3 in a rare case) Wardens together. I do try to make sure those two characters are different from eachother, as they will function as the Hawkes in the other's worldstate. (Warden A will be the Hawke of Warden B's worldstate)

The Inquisitors of those worldstates are either altered versions of the Warden or completely new characters (thanks to the the Qunari playable race that's very easy)

 

Still I find that the personalities of the Warden must align with Hawke and the Inquisitor. I feel really bad to put a goody-two-shoes character in a world state where the Warden murdered everyone for example. So each Worldstate has an overarching personality line.

 

 

My main/personal canon worldstate is the one where I do what I want/like the most. That means that like you my Warden and my Inq will be the same race and gender; altho both are female elves instead of male dwarves in my case. I changed the class for my Inquisitor though, she's a warrior instead of a rogue and I feel that that, combined with a completely different face is enough diversity. I actually find it pretty fun that my Warden and Inquisitor are both elves.

[Vigilance97]

Still I find that the personalities of the Warden must align with Hawke and the Inquisitor. I feel really bad to put a goody-two-shoes character in a world state where the Warden murdered everyone for example. So each Worldstate has an overarching personality line.

This I do completely different. My heroes differ not only in gender, race and class, but in personality, too.

 

I diversify by class as all my heroes are human males. But i also use small things such as hair and eye color and personality to keep my heroes diverse. So if you gonna roll two dwarves make there outlook on being a dwarf different because one is a surface dwarf while one is not.

Yeah, this. If the 3 heroes ever meet, you don't want the universe to collapse because they're all the same person

[Daerog]

Plenty heroes in the history of Thedas were elves.

I run two "canons." Primary one has human/male mage HoF, male warrior Hawke, and human/male mage Inquisitor.

Secondary... currently under revision, but it was originally male city elf rogue HoF, female mage Hawke, and Inquisitor is still between a dwarf rogue, a qunari warrior, or an elf mage.

I tend to imagine the primary heroes having different personalities and goals, but I have no problem having similar heroes since there is already a diverse cast of heroes... except dwarves, they don't involve themselves much on the surface.

[Toasted Llama]

This I do completely different. My heroes differ not only in gender, race and class, but in personality, too.

 

Yeah, this. If the 3 heroes ever meet, you don't want the universe to collapse because they're all the same person

 

Bahahaha! Well I suppose that is one way to put it. "WHO DIVIDED BY ZERO?" "no-one... the HoF, Hawke and the Inquisitor decided to meet..."

 

Though putting 3 evil overlords together in 1 worldstate gives some interesting (and empty...) results

[Ashaantha]

My Warden, Hawke and inquisitor are sarcastic human lady mages, no idea how that bunch became heroes lol.

[ReadingRambo220]

My main world state is a Dalish warden rogue, warrior Hawke, and human mage quiz. Those are the classes I most enjoyed playing in each respective game, and coincedently represent each of the classes.

My other world states vary, but almost every one has each hero a different class. Except for my all mage hero squad world state.

Racial diversity isn't as important as class diversity to me, but my female Dalish archer quiz has dwarf warden warrior and femHawke mage counterparts for a nice racial and class mixing. Assuming there's a DA 4, I'll have to throw in a Qunari somewhere in this world state, but will be rough choosing which class I'll have to repeat

I try to mix it up as much as possible, but gender is the least important, although I heavily lean towards female Hawke due to my love of Jo Wyatt's performance. I really enjoy Nicholas Boultan as Hawke too, and he is my "main" Hawke in my world state, but sarcastic female Hawke is just so good.

Really, though, my main world state isn't necessarily my total favorite, just the one I decided on as my first playthrough in any future Dragon Age products.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I've always tried to mix things around when matching up Wardens/Hawkes/Inquisitors so that any given version of Thedas isn't being saved by the same race/gender/class combination all the time. So there's no need for me to retcon in greater diversity.

 

(The exception is my 'canon' world state where all the heroes are women. Can't see that changing as the series goes forward, either, since I always play a female character first when possible.)

[Fearsome1]

I believe that it is pointless to debate such preferences, but for me those that solely play as human and/or the same gender each and every time is extremely limiting in practice. I have really enjoyed having options to play as non-human Wardens and Inquisitors. I also prefer to change up my gender, particularly for the romance options available each time. I usually try every possible route and/or pairing, just to see how this impacts the overall story.

 

Human only, male only seems like such a waste of the dollars spent on a fantasy rpg???

[(Disgusted noise.)]

All three of my canon heroes are male human rogues. Because no one is cooler than a male human rogue. Sometimes diversity actually is overrated.

[andy6915]

Look... I more wanted to know if I should make 2 dwarven heroes of the same sex. This was more an advice thread than anything.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Well, I totally do the opposite.

 

I have 3 world states in the keep which are named "Warrior World State", "Rogue World State" and "Mage World State". Not only but the 3 heroes of their specific "branch" have similar personalities and share the same behiaviours.

[Orian Tabris]

I actually think it can be fun to have some similarities between PCs. At least as far as class and appearance. Like my 2nd playthrough has a Warden who is a female human mage, with black eyes, black hair, and fairly pale skin, while the corresponding Hawke is also a female human mage with black eyes, hair and fairly pale skin. Of course, both of them are related as cousins, which I think makes it all the more interesting. Anyway, despite their obvious similarities (which also include attitude towards others) the Inquisitor is also a female mage, but an elf, and has very different hair and eye colour, not to mention a very different personality (though shares their perhaps intimidating-looking faces).

 

Maybe if you look at the heroes as, say, a historian (such as Brother Genitivi) living in Thedas, it might look weird and kinda boring to have everyone a human, or everyone a rogue. Fortunately, Hawke is always a human while one of the Grey Wardens who slew an archdemon in the past (Garahel) was an elf, so there's at least gonna be some difference between historical heroes.

[ReadingRambo220]

Look... I more wanted to know if I should make 2 dwarven heroes of the same sex. This was more an advice thread than anything.

We'll, no one can answer that but yourself. I thought this was more a "share your heroes info" thread.

[ElementalFury106]

Andy, I see you continuously asking questions that no one but yourself can decide for you. The answer to this particular topic is: if having two protagonists of the same race/gender/class hurts your immersion or diminishes your experience in any way, then don't do it.

 

Everyone's different. I personally love having my characters match each other. For example, in my canon world state: The Warden (Elf Male), Hawke (Male), and the Inquisitor (Human Male) are all Mages. Granted, they have different personalities and motives, but are generally good guys and exceptionally skilled Mages.

 

I have other world states where races, class, and genders are mixed. One of my world states features a Female Elf Rogue Warden, Mage Male Hawke, and Male Dwarf Warrior Inquisitor.

 

It's whatever makes you that much more invested into your experience. If any aspect detracts, stray from it.

 

Also some personal advice: don't get worked up about trivialities, such as Hawke being a "Frost" Mage and the Inquisitor being a "Lightning" Mage. The game and/or world state does not recognize such factors. A Mage is a Mage, and any skilled Mage is well versed in multiple schools of Magic. Same could be said about the other classes.

[Daerog]

Look... I more wanted to know if I should make 2 dwarven heroes of the same sex. This was more an advice thread than anything.

 

Ooh, ooh, I can help decide for andy6915:

 

Go for it. There are not enough dwarf heroes in the world, and the world needs cooler male dwarves. Thedas already has Sigrun and Harding, and Varric needs a dwarf-bro.

 

Plenty of human and elf heroes already in the lore.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I actually really dig the idea of making universes with a diverse group of heroes, it makes the world seem more "real" to me. But I also have a tendency to divide world states into "themes" of elf and human playthroughs, so it's my third one that is the most diverse: Female Aeducan Warrior, Male Mage Hawke, Female Qunari Rogue Inquisitor.

 

Although in Mark of the Assasin, I remember feeling like my second world, where FemHawke mentioned that she never met Male Maharial Warden in Lothering felt the coolest combination for some reason.

[ReadingRambo220]

Ooh, ooh, I can help decide for andy6915:

Go for it. There are not enough dwarf heroes in the world, and the world needs cooler male dwarves. Thedas already has Sigrun and Harding, and Varric needs a dwarf-bro.

Plenty of human and elf heroes already in the lore.

This is a good point, not enough dwarven heroes. This opens the door for Dwarf PC.

The dwarf noble origin is the only one that really paints your character as a badass. You are thrown into the deep roads alone, kick some ass and survive.

[Greypaul]

Doe's it really matter how you diversify, with so many choice's and classes it's up to you how your story play's out . My main warden is a human male mage but I've enjoyed playing as fem city elve rogue and am currently playing a fem dwarven warrior princess . I will mix it up and try a variety of combination's it's part of the fun .

[andy6915]

Andy, I see you continuously asking questions that no one but yourself can decide for you. The answer to this particular topic is: if having two protagonists of the same race/gender/class hurts your immersion or diminishes your experience in any way, then don't do it.

Everyone's different. I personally love having my characters match each other. For example, in my canon world state: The Warden (Elf Male), Hawke (Male), and the Inquisitor (Human Male) are all Mages. Granted, they have different personalities and motives, but are generally good guys and exceptionally skilled Mages.

I have other world states where races, class, and genders are mixed. One of my world states features a Female Elf Rogue Warden, Mage Male Hawke, and Male Dwarf Warrior Inquisitor.

It's whatever makes you that much more invested into your experience. If any aspect detracts, stray from it.

Also some personal advice: don't get worked up about trivialities, such as Hawke being a "Frost" Mage and the Inquisitor being a "Lightning" Mage. The game and/or world state does not recognize such factors. A Mage is a Mage, and any skilled Mage is well versed in multiple schools of Magic. Same could be said about the other classes.

It's about perspective. It's true that only I can answer, but other people give me different perspectives other than my own. That perspective can and does help me at deciding for myself. You're not giving me my decision, you're helping me at giving myself my decision. I'm not asking "choose for me", I'm asking "help me choose". A thin distinction maybe, but a distinction nonetheless.

[Cz-99]

Pick whatever you like. Outside of DA:O, your character's race doesn't really matter all that much... story-wise at least.

 

I dig mages, so my first run through of the series I went with a mage in all three. However, I then rolled different race/class combinations and in the end whichever character I found to be most interesting and enjoyable I made my main/canon. I don't particularly care about making my characters diverse, but neither do I try and make them a "set."

 

For example, in Origins I rolled a mage as mentioned above. I find humans in fantasy meh, so if there are more interesting and well-developed alternatives, I usually go with 'em. For that reason I rolled with an elven mage. After that I made a dwarf noble warrior and had a lot of fun with him. Following him it was a city elf rogue, and he too was fun. I dislike the Dalish, and it didn't help that their Origin story was lame - so I never advanced a Dalish Warden past the intro story. The human one was also uninteresting and that too didn't see attention from me for very long.

 

DA2 made it easy 'cause you're forced into being a human, I prefer mages so I went with a mage Hawke, and there's very low replay value so I didn't experiment with warrior/rogue Hawke and moved on after my first playthrough.

 

Inquisition made it easy race-wise. Originally wanted to roll an elven mage, but since they look like shite in Inquisition I deleted that monstrosity and sealed him with the highest level Bakudo. Qunari are equally bad-looking, just in a different manner. I did however do a second playthrough with a qunari warrior and I was not proud of myself, going through several buckets of ice cream by the end. That narrowed it down to either a dwarf or a human, and since dwarves in Inquisition lack sexy dwarf beards and instead look like mini-humans as opposed to fantasy dwarves I went with the vanilla race instead. Little did I know mages in this particular installment are extra lame compared to their predecessors, and while a KE was fun for the OP factor a sword and board Templar was the real star of the game.

 

tl;dr - everyone's got their own ways of deciding. Some like "sets" and some diversity. Certain people base it off lore-reasons and others off aesthetics. Gotta find your own reasons and methods.  

[Ashaantha]

People discussing what they did is actually a very good way to get ideas for yourself, Andy. I actually find it's the best way rather then asking people to give you specifiically worded advise, in which case you end up with them saying what they did anyway. So I don't think this thread ever derailed from the original query for suggestions/advise lol. May not have ended up 100% what you were specifically asking people to say but you have gotten what you were after.