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As far as i'm concerned none of them are. My character lfet the galaxy before Shepard made the choice.



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X Equestris

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And the devs also said they were not going to change the ending... and yet then went on and made the extended cut.
 
Either way, I am very curious to see how they write this all in.


They were very insistent that they weren't changing the ending with the Extended Cut, they were "clarifying" it. And in truth, they really didn't change much of anything, other than providing a bit of an epilogue.

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They were very insistent that they weren't changing the ending with the Extended Cut, they were "clarifying" it. And in truth, they really didn't change much of anything, other than providing a bit of an epilogue.

 

Personally I thought it made a world of difference, and glad that they made it, and especially glad that I didn't get into the trilogy until it was already released. The original ending is pretty much an abrupt cutoff of nothingness to me. 


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Personally I thought it made a world of difference, and glad that they made it, and especially glad that I didn't get into the trilogy until it was already released. The original ending is pretty much an abrupt cutoff of nothingness to me.


Oh I agree, it elevated the endings from bad to decent for me. But what I was getting at with my response was that it didn't fundamentally change the endings, as some people had called for. They were basically the same endings with epilogues and clarification about some things (like making it clear that the mass relays being destroyed didn't wipe out life in the galaxy).
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Because people ignored your comment...

Jonathan Warner ‏@Bio_Warner 2. März
@SomeStrangeFX @bioware @masseffect @GambleMike The next ME is a great place to jump into the series. No need to worry about saves.

Michael Gamble ‏@GambleMike 2. März
@SomeStrangeFX @Bio_Warner @bioware @masseffect There is no canon ending to ME3. Player choice is something we take very seriously.


Can we please stop useless speculations about things that have been decided already? ****** please?


They've lied before. This very same lie, in fact.

Ask the rachni queen or Councilor Anderson how seriously they take player choices.

It wasn't gospel then, and it's not now.

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Yea... Which is why I'm most likely going to skip this ME. I'm just lurking, hoping to get excited about something. Apparently, this select few where able to avoid the Reaper's radar by leaving early, the Reapers aren't thorough in annihilating their targets because they don't check other galaxies before going back to their equivalent of hibernation. The advance species in Andromeda if there are any aren't really a threat to the Reapers because the weren't annihilated.

 

The continuity in ME is broken. I wished I hadn't played the series at least then I could be like, yea I'll try this game (ME1 2006 E3 Trailer reference). 



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So which ending is Cannon?

 

This one for sure

 
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Control should be canon. ME:A could then be about the glorious expansion of the Galactic Empire into new galaxies in the name of the Shepard.


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If they were to make an ending canon, Refuse would seem to be the best suited to it. A seed ship launched in secret either prior to the end of ME3, or even after the end but before the Reapers had managed to destroy all organic civilisation manags to escape to Andromeda, but everything left behind is destroyed. That way, there's no need to worry about what is going on in the Milky Way, and we have a nice blank slate to work with.


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Destroy. Obviously.
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So this takes place far away and in the future from the events of the trilogy. This much I get and that's cool. But I have to wonder which ending is going to be cannon? Or do we get to choose? And while you may be thinking "who cares, its in the future and the trilogy doesn't need to be mentioned." I say its important all the same. We get to play as a human (sadly only as a human) so that means we either came from earth, colony or star ship. That means our past lies within the trilogy.

 

Did the Reapers win and we simply abandoned the galaxy? All the survivors of the races pooled everything together and fled to the far reaches of space?

 

Did we destroy all technology and now years later have somehow managed to recreate what was once lost?

 

Or did we all become sentient beings merged with tech? But somehow who we play now is not effected by the milky way galaxy spread of this crazy notion?

 

Maybe Shepard became the catalyst and controlled the Reapers. For the most part everything returned to the way they were and now here we are in the distant future in some distant galaxy that collected reaper tech managed to get us to? And we're not some sentient beings, and we not run aways from invasion.

 

I kinda like the idea of control ending being cannon. If we're playing in the future that is built upon the old... what did happen? What happened in the trilogy has to effect at least some part of this future world. How can we be human if we got wiped out? Or evolved into the next stage of evolution? And how could we find another galaxy if we were all sent back to the stone age?

 

What is your take on this? If its not going to be cannon, then there better be a good explanation as to why the future is the way it is, without being impacted by the past. And I don't buy some "Well you see we launched out into space before the war with the Reapers and were unaware of the war... and so far away we were unaffected by it. We are ancestors from that."  excuse.

none. They are sending the people of the ark as a back up or contingency plan if all else fail in the Milkyway. All sounds good and dandy until we get to the question of whether we get to see Milkyway ever again [insert Bioware cult defense of "Milkyway is overrated" here] I mean if we get to see it again... like ever

 

also here's some epic Cannon

 


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The quarians and the geth are the best suited to build/run/maintain the Ark. The quarians for their experience, the geth because they're freakin sentient programs who can run the ship while everyone's snoozing in cryo-sleep (since they say your brain shuts down at that point. :ph34r: )  I'd be surprised and more than a little disappointed if this isn't realized and used by the devs.

 

Otherwise, it's been a while since I torched something. here goes.

 

 

IT is canon.

 

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The quarians and the geth are the best suited to build/run/maintain the Ark. The quarians for their experience, the geth because they're freakin sentient programs who can run the ship while everyone's snoozing in cryo-sleep (since they say your brain shuts down at that point. :ph34r: )  I'd be surprised and more than a little disappointed if this isn't realized and used by the devs.

 

Otherwise, it's been a while since I torched something. here goes.

 

 

IT is canon.

 

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I hope you're right.  About the Geth and Quarians (and also IT :P !). 

However, if they bring along the one, they sure as hell better bring the other.  Having the Quarians return but not the Geth would utterly trivialize the Rannoch decision, and I don't want to see that happen.  Even having both travel to Andromeda somewhat trivializes the decision already, but having one without the other would be completely unacceptable. 



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The one where Bioware fucked up the original setting in our galaxy so badly, that it has to vanish forever out of the mass effect universe.

(The change of the galaxy would have been as unnecessary as a third boob on a male monkey otherwise.)

Sad but true.

Now lets hope that they are able to bring the ME-Spirit over to Andromeda and do better this time.


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Personally I thought it made a world of difference, and glad that they made it, and especially glad that I didn't get into the trilogy until it was already released. The original ending is pretty much an abrupt cutoff of nothingness to me. 

So did I I liked the endings for the most part once the Extended cut was applied tbh they should have been there from the start but hopefully Bioware has learnt it's lesson from that I suspect they have.



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MP is the true cannon ending.


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If I were a professional writer, I'd say destroy.  My Shepard (the playthrough I've cared about the most) picked Destroy.



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I honestly think, after hearing about change of galaxy Indoctrination Theory was the canon planned.

 

But after that much criticism some right, some wrong; BW simply pressed "reset" button and forgot all about it. And hoping that we'll forget about it :)

 

So as official there is no canon ending, have it your way but i really think IT was the one BW wanted us to have.


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Always hated the head canon nonsense. Its a cheap and easy way out for Bioware.

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 And hoping that we'll forget about it :)

 

 

 


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The one where Bioware fucked up the original setting in our galaxy so badly, that it has to vanish forever out of the mass effect universe.

(The change of the galaxy would have been as unnecessary as a third boob on a male monkey otherwise.)

Sad but true.

Now lets hope that they are able to bring the ME-Spirit over to Andromeda and do better this time.

 

Im curious what they come up with to make people forget ME3 ending. Why are the same old races in Andromeda? How do they get there? How will they make acceptable that the ME3 ending will not affect the setting? Dafuq is with the Reapers, the Leviathans and their agenda? How can a new story be any good when its foremost task is to dodge the colossal fail of the ending of the previous trilogy? Im expecting plotholes and a lot of "thisdoesnotmakeanysense". Maybe the cool cowboy music will make up for it.

 

ps: the whole ark theory makes the story of the trilogy pointless bs. If it were so easy to survive the reaper invasion we would probably find a lot of living protheans and other "wiped out" races in andromeda. Or not, because they created already synthetic life by now, and at their peak evolution they would have destroyed themselves (gotta love ME3 ending xD). Conclusion: if you can dodge the reapers with "arking"  we will find only AI-s in the andromeda...



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I am quite sure the "how did we came here"-part will be thin as air when it comes to the excuse for the ME3-Time period (they can't explain it, for that crap they can only apologize...).

For myself i try to push the clusterfuck they did there back of my mind at the start of ME:A.

They lost already their last credibility for that part of ME with what they did in ME3

 

Either they get it on the line to catch the ME-Feeling and give us a living and well made new world...

or well, i will have pre-ordered varrenpoo again.

But i will take the risk, because ME.

 

That been said, i never saw the Bioware STORIES itself better then other, like Fallout or Skyrim. The Stories for themselves was best of

mediocre all together.

 

But Bioware made an experience out of it, for their characters was gritty and alive. I liked Skyrim and Fallout, too, a bunch of, but nothing hooked me like ME did.

 

The Story was always and everywhere this utterly boring and plain "you, oh gold-shitting-savior-of-all-are-send-to-save-our-smelly-butts"... sadly...

But i take the ris... oh wait, i said that already.



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The canon ending is REFUSAL!



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The canon ending is REFUSAL!

 

https://twitter.com/...474505576222720

 

Seriously, read the thread. It's been said before.



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Im curious what they come up with to make people forget ME3 ending. Why are the same old races in Andromeda? How do they get there? How will they make acceptable that the ME3 ending will not affect the setting? Dafuq is with the Reapers, the Leviathans and their agenda?


Those are all pretty easy questions. The races got there because they came on the Ark, or maybe Arks. How they get there will be some kind of one-shot technology-- a one-way wormhole, a single captured Reaper drive core, or something along those lines. The ME3 ending won't affect Andromeda because the relays didn't reach Andromeda. The Reapers, the Leviathans, and their agenda are all exactly what they appeared to be.