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#76
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I'm enjoying everyone's constructive and insightful comment despite my use of the word "cannon" instead of "canon"

 

My thought though of this being some sort of ark project.

 

Say the geth maintain the ship while everyone else is asleep in cryo sleep or something. We bring along the humans, asari, Krogan turians, quarians, volus and salarians. And maybe we brought the hated races such as batarians and vorcha. But at least we have the council races and favorite races covered.

 

Ok cool. How lets talk settlements.

 

Who gets what world(s) in Andromeda? Who decides this? Who is in charge? If we're sent out as some sort of ark into the distant stars out of reach of Reapers and the total BS that was the ending of ME3... how do we survive? Every race has its own unique physical requirements. Turians and quarians can share food but other then that? Its not like we can all inhabit the same planet and eat the same food. And what of getting along? I doubt this would result in some sort of utopia with all the included races somehow finding a role and getting along.

 

I know this is all speculation until more is released to us. But I still wonder... how the hell is this going to work and still be good? Have we seen the last of the milky way? I'll be honest. Part of the whole Mass Effect charm was that it took place just outside our world. It provoked thoughts about what is really out there. To just hand us a game with a space theme and call it Mass Effect... Its either going to be epic or a complete slap in the face... the final nail in the coffin of what was once a great series.



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...the final nail in the coffin of what was once a great series.

 

Bioware could learn a lot from this interview:

 

http://io9.com/first...dium=socialflow



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I'm enjoying everyone's constructive and insightful comment despite my use of the word "cannon" instead of "canon"

 

My thought though of this being some sort of ark project.

 

Say the geth maintain the ship while everyone else is asleep in cryo sleep or something. We bring along the humans, asari, Krogan turians, quarians, volus and salarians. And maybe we brought the hated races such as batarians and vorcha. But at least we have the council races and favorite races covered.

 

Ok cool. How lets talk settlements.

 

Who gets what world(s) in Andromeda? Who decides this? Who is in charge? If we're sent out as some sort of ark into the distant stars out of reach of Reapers and the total BS that was the ending of ME3... how do we survive? Every race has its own unique physical requirements. Turians and quarians can share food but other then that? Its not like we can all inhabit the same planet and eat the same food. And what of getting along? I doubt this would result in some sort of utopia with all the included races somehow finding a role and getting along.

 

I know this is all speculation until more is released to us. But I still wonder... how the hell is this going to work and still be good? Have we seen the last of the milky way? I'll be honest. Part of the whole Mass Effect charm was that it took place just outside our world. It provoked thoughts about what is really out there. To just hand us a game with a space theme and call it Mass Effect... Its either going to be epic or a complete slap in the face... the final nail in the coffin of what was once a great series.

 

They are probably going to go with drive&shoot and dont ask & enjoy action! Like in the latest Terminator movie. There is no good workaround for ME3 ending. Simply cant be. Its too bad.



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It's more a case of a lack of imagination, and willingness to take a few risks. If you want widely diverging consequences, sure, it can't be done in just one game. But Mass Effect has never had this, and it never will. You'll be disappointed if you expect it.

 

The truth is that Bioware didn't want to have to deal with any more ending backlash, so they took the easy way out.



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The canon ending? Probably the one where Shep wakes up in this Cerberus-Lab after her ship got wrecked. She punches "Icequeen" in the face, hijacks the new Normandy while showing Illusive Man the middle finger, regains Spectre Status, starts to travel the galaxy to prepare the worlds for the coming invasion, while battling Cerberus. She also fidns out that the Citadel and the Keepers on board (who turn out to be not so much brainless as everyone expected, inlcuding the Reapers) might hold the key to the galaxy's salvation. After tearing the IM a new butthole at the end of ME2 the Reapers invade in full force, but gladly the war-efforts of the past couple years were not too in vain. The galaxy fights! Against the Reapers! The badguys! As it should be!

 

Yet stil Shepard and her friends have to rush against time to find the last missing answers, while the citadel is moved to Earth by the council. There the last stand occurs, and in a hommage to ME1 Shep has to once more board the Citadel, gets badly beaten by Harbinger and his ilk and ... wakes up presumed dead, among the core of the Citadel, where she meets the hive-mind of the Keepers, befriends them and uses SpaceMcGuffin found during ME3 to turn the Citadel into a massive indoctrination-device against the Reapers (Paragon: destroy the Space-Cthulus once and for all, Renegade: Take control of them). Of course only after a massive battle with much action and badassness against Harbinger is that even possible, who we shut up once and for all. And no speculation whatsoever included here...

 

After this we have a wonderful yet heartbreaking celebration among the ruins of the galaxy, Shep hugs her friends once more, mourning the losses but grinning mischieviously when she is asked what comes next...end credits role, VoxDraconia does another playthrough and can't wait for ME4, even with new protagonist as Shepard's story was wonderfully ended!

 

Now if only I could get that dimension-Portal to work, I need to get into the world where this actually happened that way... :angry:


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This thread is depressing. I hope they don't ignore ME3's ending because a few people didn't like it. It seems unlikely as we are far into the future.

 

I was thinking if we are to have a ship crew with members of all the old alien races then perhaps the hybrid ending of ME3 will better explain how these different cultures could work together.



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Who gets what world(s) in Andromeda?

Unless Andromeda has reapers too or something similar surely it should be teeming with life. Hopefully it will not be easy for us to claim a world.


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I agree Indigenous.

 

Humanity thought they would travel into the stars and settle strange new worlds only to get out there and discover those worlds were inhabited. And furthermore those races were not impressed with our accomplishment. Example the Turian war, first contact.

 

Is that a mistake we're going to repeat?



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I agree Indigenous.

 

Humanity thought they would travel into the stars and settle strange new worlds only to get out there and discover those worlds were inhabited. And furthermore those races were not impressed with our accomplishment. Example the Turian war, first contact.

 

Is that a mistake we're going to repeat?

 

Of course. This is humanity we're talking about. We've done the same stupid **** for decades, if not centuries despite all evidence that it isn't working. :P



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I don't know if those mistakes will be repeated in Andromeda but I think having numerous new space faring races/species would add to the story. It would be also awesome if they had their own 'council'.



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Canon: Destroy.

 

Cannon: I like cannons. :) They're fun.



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This thread is depressing. I hope they don't ignore ME3's ending because a few people didn't like it.

 

The reason they won't address the ending is because it's supposed to be some grand meaningful choice which would be robbed of its artistic integrity if a choice was canonized. I assume most of the people who dislike the ending actually want the ME universe move beyond it (or get rebooted into an alternate universe). I know I certainly do.

 

Predictions for ME3 : Wormhole travel away from Milky Way before ending, Andromeda has it's own anti-AI space magic so Starchild can be right.


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Entertaining the idea for a moment, and going off the pattern Bioware's established with each default world state in ME games being the absolute worst you could make them, Refusal would be the most likely ending canonized. 

 

Which honestly could work out the best, plotline wise. 



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 I assume most of the people who dislike the ending actually want the ME universe move beyond it (or get rebooted into an alternate universe). I know I certainly do.

 

Only if Sarevok is in that said universe, then we got a nuke on our hands....



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Michael Gamble ‏@GambleMike 2. März

@SomeStrangeFX @Bio_Warner @bioware @masseffect There is no canon ending to ME3. Player choice is something we take very seriously.

 

Really Mike Gamble? 

 

This is the equivalent to the crewmen of the Titanic telling the press after the ship sank that passenger safety "is something they take very seriously."  For the love of Christ, if you were actually taking player choice seriously, the ME 3 "endings" wouldn't exist as they do today!  Instead they'd be....you know, GOOD! 


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Let us not talk about ME3's endings, your hatred of them affects your reasoning leading to irrational posts. Most arguments against the ME3 endings are really just a matter of taste. There is no fundamental flaw that is unique to ME3.


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the BROWN one



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Let us not talk about ME3's endings, your hatred of them affects your reasoning leading to irrational posts. Most arguments against the ME3 endings are really just a matter of taste. There is no fundamental flaw that is unique to ME3.

I'm sorry, but where do you get off talking like that?  My reasoning?  Irrational posts?   My posts are very rational thank you very much.  And...I'm pretty sure we were already talking about the ME 3 endings anyway. 



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Red obviously. No other choice is viable and this can be objectively demonstrated. Green and blue only exist so they could say, "there is more than one ending".

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Let us not talk about ME3's endings, your hatred of them affects your reasoning leading to irrational posts. Most arguments against the ME3 endings are really just a matter of taste. There is no fundamental flaw that is unique to ME3.

*looks at thread title*

 

Umm, I don't think you understand the point of this discussion... :huh:


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*looks at thread title*
 
Umm, I don't think you understand the point of this discussion... :huh:


If we're going strictly by the thread title, then ImaginaryMatter ended this discussion many posts back:
 

Destroy.
 
Shepard has to use the Carnifex hand-cannon to activate the Crucible in that scenario.



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that would of been intresting if in me3 we had the option to evacuate people into the arc for Andromeda if our score count was to low and if it was high enough we would still of made the arc but the reapers would of been defeated but we used the arc for exploration