I'm not sure if it's kosher to post the same response in two topics, but I think this is relevant enough to state here as well as the original thread I posted in. Apologies for the duplication...
Longtime lurker who has been following this debacle obsessively. I have a PS3, so of course this is personal for me. I first have to applaud the PC/current gen owners who can still understand and sympathize with old-gen owners. Thank you for taking the time to place yourselves in someone else's shoes and listen rather than stonewall and say "about time!"
It's all been said before, I agree DAI should have only been made for current gen, but the timing of the release plus the year extension really made that difficult for Bioware. Fair enough. What I'm really surprised about is how little support the community has given on the issue. Honestly, the tone of many current genners (no one specifically on this thread), is barely concealed hostility and resentment to old gen users. The prevailing attitude seems to be "old gen should be PUNISHED because Bioware was FORCED to dumb down the game for them. This is what they DESERVE for lessening my game."
As if I made the decision of the game's content and wanted less so that it would work on my system. No, this was a decision by the game designers; I'm sure they would have preferred only to release on current gen (still future gen when they were working on it), but they had to work in reality and hedge their bets if current gen didn't sell well. A lot of what they're saying about being held back seems to be hindsight; did Bioware say the old gen systems were holding them back BEFORE the game was released? That would hurt their sales. They're saying this now that we've all purchased the game. So it's inaccurate for people to say that old gen players should have known we were limiting the game. The game was still released with reduced content before I made my purchase. Me upgrading to a current system wouldn't have changed the product we were delivered. Nor would I want to deprive anyone of content so that I could play. I would have sucked it up and bought a PS4 to play.
I don't think including this cut content would have made a significant difference to the game, anyway. A lot of the issues I have with the game (and that many others seem to have), have to do with plot, characters (protagonist and villain, specifically), fetch quests. Yes, it would have been cool to have larger scale battles and more impactful choices in the zones, but would that have made a drastic change to the game? The other issues would still be there. Unless the thought is that endless fetch quests and collections were inserted to pad the game when these original features were cut. But I don't think there would have been enough development time to add all of these in after it was determined that old gen systems were limiting content. These would have still been included regardless of the game platform.
And then the hypocrisy of posts like "Bioware isn't obligated to support DLC for all of its platforms. I don't know what you're getting so upset over, you got the full game as promised. OMG this DLC is going to be amazing though I can't wait!" So...we shouldn't expect all DLC or be upset when we don't get it, but then you post how you're so stoked for this game-altering DLC? If you were in our position would you still think we should be content not getting such amazing DLC?
Of course, this is also assuming that the next/final/whatever DLC installment is game-changing and completely maximizes on the technology us old genners were depriving you of. I'm not an expert, but I don't believe DLC affects the core game much, it only adds content. I've seen some people think this DLC might fill in some of the empty spaces in current maps or improve decreased/cut features. I highly doubt any DLC is going to add back in the tactical warfare shown in the E3 demo. That ship has sailed (and not been burned to prevent retreat, apparently). The only thing new DLC can do will add new zones ala JoH, or provide separate DLC similar to Leliana's song or Witch Hunt. Sorry, current gen, the features I prevented you from getting in the main game aren't making a comeback now that I've been left behind.
And people seem to be making the argument that JoH didn't sell well on last gen platforms, so Bioware is justified in cutting off future DLC. Well...yeah if we already feel like second-class customers, having to wait for months to play something Xbox1 already has, people are posting video walkthroughs, and a lot of people are saying the high price tag isn't worth the content, OF COURSE sales will be down. Bioware is harming their own market with these decisions, yet people are saying it's old gen's fault sales didn't go well. We can't win, the cards are stacked against us.
I want the remaining DLC to be amazing. I greatly enjoy the setting and the story being told, and it would be great to have that continued in these next DLC's. That doesn't mean I'm happy with Bioware or a lot of the fanbase for the attitude toward this change. Honestly, I've already deleted all of my save games to avoid temptation to go ahead and be fiscally irresponsible and buy a new system and a new copy of a game I've already purchased. The main reason why I didn't already buy a PS4 is that I don't play that many games, so why would I now buy one ONLY to play a few DLCs? I can't in good faith buy future content from Bioware full price; like others here, if I buy future games, it will be second hand. No more preordering (which I did for DA2, ME3 and DAI). I plan on getting a new computer soon, anyway, and will probably check out Pillars of Eternity instead.
TL:DR, I'm almost more disappointed from the community than Bioware on this news. I've sadly come to expect this kind of business practice from them now, but the lack of empathy or support from many people here is disappointing.
, it doesn't make them cowards because the technical limitations hit the wall for what they had planned
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