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[Eronair]

First of all, i would like to say that i love this game. I've spendt the better part of 200 hours questing through on multiple characters. I've done the same for Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2.

 

However, i feel it's a good practise to come with some of the points where i personally feel that the game could be improved, you may agree or disagree with me, and it may seem like a major rant on my end, but that is by no means my intention. My intention is to put some of my thoughts out there, so you guys can discuss them for the benefit of the next Dragon Age installment.

 

The points that i will be addressing are:

 

- Story

- Companions

- Quests

- Gear

- Combat

 

 

Story:

I personally like where the story of Thedas is going, and i absolutely love the Codex system. Why? because it satisfies the nerdy in me, and it gives an extra depth to the over all story. However it is something that is reserved for the hardcore complitionists, which isn't nessesary a bad thing. If you put in the extra effort, you should be rewarded for it.

 

However, when that is said and done. The main questline is way to short compared to the amount of side quests, collectables and exploration there is in the game. It seems that a lot of energy when into make the game as elaborate as possible, without thinking for the balance of some of the key features of the game. Thats really sad, because a lot of the diversity in what you can do dissapeares when you complete the game. Hence, when that time comes, you will basically be grinding the rest of the game for the sake of completion, without having the possibility to interact with your party characters.

 

Companions:

All in all, i think DA:I did a good job on the companions. In my humble opinion they all have something that makes them remorable, and some of the interactions are down right hilarious.

When that is said though, there are some things that seems a little ... weird ... to me. Fx. why doesn't Iron Bull act like Sten? i mean AT ALL! ... i loved Sten in the DA:O, the cold and logical thinker, where you had to work hard on getting him to like you, and even then he was still kind of a hard ass.

 

I realize that it's hard to make each party character uniq, but taking a Qunari and designing his personality like he's a human is beyond me, and sadly it also removes a lot of the charm and mystiq around the Qunari, there was in both DA:O and DA:2.

the same goes for Elves, however this can be excused partly by them being city elves. But some something like Dalish elves, there are no excuses for why they should be so similar to humans.

I think in future DA games, BioWare has to remain true to the origin of the different races, and utillize this trate to make those companions more individual and give them more depth.

 

Quests:

One has to be amazed by the sheer number of quests there are to do in DA:I, it's massive! and a good portion of those quests, have interresting stories and make you go for it, even though you know it's just another go there fetch this or a go there kill this quest. Mixed in with the main story line or companion quests, it doesn't feel like to big a chore when you get a cut scene every once in a while.

 

However, if you want to complete every quest in every area. You are going to go for vast amounts of time without any cut scene or anything new to talk to your companions about. This makes a lot of the questing vastly boring and as earlier statet, it seems unbalanced.

 

I realize that it's a hard balance to strike, but imagine if there were more companion quests, and if it was a more indepth proces to get your companions into a romance. That way you could travel through a history with your companions, and that is one of the things that made me fall in love with this franchise in the first place. This will also remove some of the tedious questing and replace it with something that will matter for you and your companion progression.

 

Gear:

The new crafting system in DA:I is amazing, it this it's a good thing for immersion and it requires you to go and collect materials to make said craftables.

 

Now there are some complaints going around that the Schematics for weapons and armor are to powerful, but let's be honest here. You always and i mean ALWAYS! have the choice of not making these items, and hence make the game harder for yourself. That is all you.

 

Something i would like to see in the next game though, is the possibility of selecting a different design of armor when you get a new schematic. For yeah well ... Solas, Armor ... i have no idea what went wrong there. (personal opinion) It would be nice to change the design of the armor and keep the amazing stats that you get from your newly made armor or sword. No one wants to chose between looking awesome and having crap stats, or looking shitty and having amazing stats.

 

Combat:

I personally love the fact that they changed the combat system, because i rarely used the tactical combat system unless i was playing on nightmare. It makes the combat feel as if it's a life or death situation when you are fighting Dragons, and keeping you on your toes.

 

What i don't like about it though is that we no longer have the option to use Tactics to set up how you want your companions to react to specific situations. A system where you were able to chose between the current tactical system, and the previous one from DA:2 (with the addition of a "Not" command) would make it much more exciting to plan out a battle before hand and but back some of the tactical side of the gameplay that has been a bit lost in DA:I.

 

Rounding it up:

I realise that this seems like i hate almost every aspect of the game. However that is not true, i absolutely love it, and i will keep playing in for probably about 200 hours more. This post is made out of love for the game, and in some hopes of some of this being included in the next DA installment.

After all, nothing is going to change if no one gives suggestions to what could be done better.

 

Cheers

Eronair

[Saphiron123]

Gaider rewrote the qunari to fit his personal politics. Hence the acceptance of krem, women now being able to be warriors, etc etc. Dude has no respect for past lore.

It's really grating actually because when you play origins, Sten's bafflement at a woman fighting was so staggering he couldn't wrap his head around it at all. A female warrior simply didn't happen in his mind. Yet now the ultra-fanatical and gender-roled quanri are just as accepting as everyone else in ferelden. Ferelden has gone from a troubled world filled with racism and bigotry to a fantasyland where everyone is just cool with everyone else... that fanatical us vs them our religion is the only religion mentality made the qunari separate and special. It's the same as the fact past dragon age games were rife with racism and inter-species conflict, and inquisition barely even touched on that. My last inquisitor was an elf. The empress burning down the largest alienage in val royeaux was barely even touched on when it should ahve been a HUGE deal... but no, everyone's pals now.

Gaider's explanation for it is totally laughable when you listen to sten talk, but the sten we know and the qunari we know are gone. Maybe Weekes can save the qunari and make them different again, because a world where everyone accepts everyone else would be a nice place to live, but it makes an uninteresting fantasy drama. The witcher ironically gave me the dragon age style game i was hoping for, and nobody is more surprised than me.

[Eronair]

Gaider rewrote the qunari to fit his personal politics. Hence the acceptance of krem, women now being able to be warriors, etc etc. Dude has no respect for past lore.
 

 

According to the DA:wiki, Gaider never had anything to do with the Qunari backstory or sten and Iron Bull as companions. (atleast not directly)

 

That aside, i think it's sad that they would go for rewriting lore, instead of working inside of the parameters of it. They could easily have made Cassandra the strong women she is, and have Iron Bull rant at her for being a women. In fact that would have given the authors more ammunition to solidify her as said strong women.

 

... "My last inquisitor was an elf. The empress burning down the largest alienage in val royeaux was barely even touched on when it should ahve been a HUGE deal... but no, everyone's pals now."

 

My point exactly! i couldn't have said it better. I couldn't get my arms down when i found out that we got Dorian ... a Tevinter mage! i had the wildest dreams of awesome party banter, where they would give eachother a verbal beating for being for each their faction. without ruining anything for anyone, i think i can say that it didn't quite go that way.

now, not that i have anything against the way they chose to go with these guys. It's more the fact that they are from two factions that HATE! eachother.

 

there is a major lack of conflict within your own ranks. the only one that really jumps to mind, is the fact that Cassandra really doesn't trust Sara.

 

And more race specific quests would be amazing! i mean would it hurt to let us play through our own back story? and get a good feel for the horrific things done to elves, or the brutal battles of the Qunari and Tevinter? or even just be the laid back lazy nobel! it would add immensely to the game as a whole in my perspective! and it would give the feel that the factions ARE different, and why they are! 

[SardaukarElite]

Maybe Weekes can save the qunari and make them different again

 

So you know, wiki says that Patrick Weekes wrote Iron Bull.

 

 

That aside, i think it's sad that they would go for rewriting lore, instead of working inside of the parameters of it. They could easily have made Cassandra the strong women she is, and have Iron Bull rant at her for being a women. In fact that would have given the authors more ammunition to solidify her as said strong women.

 

Fighting alongside The Warden (and friends) would have been The Sten's first experience of fighting in a unit with women, it makes sense that he's still hanging onto all his rigid Qunari gender roles. By contrast Iron Bull has been fighting outside of Qunari units for a long time, his unit includes women and he's likely to have fought with other units with women, he really should have gotten over rigid Qunari gender roles by now.

 

I think Sten's hard views was one of Dragon Age's high points, but it'd be pretty shallow for Iron Bull to just copy them.

[Kantr]

The Qun views Krem as a man. Thus he can fight.

[lynroy]

Gaider rewrote the qunari to fit his personal politics. Hence the acceptance of krem, women now being able to be warriors, etc etc. Dude has no respect for past lore.

Krem identifies as a man, therefore can be a warrior and it doesn't conflict with the Qun.

[Teddie Sage]

My only three complains for this game were the lack of hair styles and body customization, the boring final boss and ending segment of the game and lastly the lack of music. This game felt so quiet at times, it made the whole experience forgettable.

[Eronair]

I think Sten's hard views was one of Dragon Age's high points, but it'd be pretty shallow for Iron Bull to just copy them.

 

I think you misunderstand me good sir. I by no means want them to copy/paste Sten's behavior into Iron Bull, by no means. But some of the finer points of the Qunari race would have been preferred. And yes, he has been a part of the human race and working outside of the Qun for some time. Which in my humble opinion just makes for lazy writing more then anything.

 

And Krems statement of transsexuals being accepted within the Qun is weirdly placed. (not saying that it's not a good thing to take transsexuality into the game, just that it could have been done better)

All Qunari are bred for their purpose according to what we know. Then how does that make room for transsexuals to become warriors if they are bred to bake bread because of their gender?

 

I just think they should have stuck with the more restrictive version of the Qun that were present in the 2 other games. Where the Qunari are a selfless unity, wrather then writing to much of the human aspects into the Qunari companions. 

[SardaukarElite]

I think you misunderstand me good sir. I by no means want them to copy/paste Sten's behavior into Iron Bull, by no means. But some of the finer points of the Qunari race would have been preferred. And yes, he has been a part of the human race and working outside of the Qun for some time. Which in my humble opinion just makes for lazy writing more then anything.

 

No I get you, I meant copy the Qunari behavior that Sten represented on gender. The thing is groups of people are diverse, particularly those who are outside of the group and exposed to new influences. I don't see how that's lazy writing, I mean it's a thing that happens. People have prejudices and they get over them when they meet people who defy them.

 

And Krems statement of transsexuals being accepted within the Qun is weirdly placed. (not saying that it's not a good thing to take transsexuality into the game, just that it could have been done better)

All Qunari are bred for their purpose according to what we know. Then how does that make room for transsexuals to become warriors if they are bred to bake bread because of their gender?

 

I just think they should have stuck with the more restrictive version of the Qun that were present in the 2 other games. Where the Qunari are a selfless unity, wrather then writing to much of the human aspects into the Qunari companions. 

 

I was only really commenting on the fighting women thing. I find the way Bull presents the Qunari as odd, but I'm not sure how much it's him and how much is actually proper new information about the Qun.

[FKA_Servo]

Gaider rewrote the qunari to fit his personal politics. Hence the acceptance of krem, women now being able to be warriors, etc etc. Dude has no respect for past lore.

 

What confuses me is how you're able to type all these long, rambling posts when you apparently don't understand what words mean in the first place.

[Hexoduen]

What might be done better? Here's what I hope to see in DA4:

• Custom tactics as in Origins and DA2 
• Auto-attack in the action-cam at launch
• Customization of minimap, quickbar, quest tracker and area map
• Better overview of menus like character sheet and inventory management
• Deeper character build and level up. Allow us to allocate attribute points, to build mana and have a bigger spell selection 
• A return of healing spells, maybe as X no. of uses per day?
• A selection of casual outfits 
• Item and loot highlight as a toggle
• Deeper main story and companion/counselor quests
• More strategy in combat
• Give us a few XP for fighting lower leveled enemies ( as opposed to the current 0, it feels too MMO )
• Tone down respawning time, maybe wait until area transition?

I still think it's a good game, and the environments are so beautiful to explore. I've mentioned a lot of complaints about Inquisition, but only because I love Bioware and Dragon Age

[chrstnmonks]

According to the DA:wiki, Gaider never had anything to do with the Qunari backstory or sten and Iron Bull as companions. (atleast not directly)

 

That aside, i think it's sad that they would go for rewriting lore, instead of working inside of the parameters of it. They could easily have made Cassandra the strong women she is, and have Iron Bull rant at her for being a women. In fact that would have given the authors more ammunition to solidify her as said strong women.

 

 

My point exactly! i couldn't have said it better. I couldn't get my arms down when i found out that we got Dorian ... a Tevinter mage! i had the wildest dreams of awesome party banter, where they would give eachother a verbal beating for being for each their faction. without ruining anything for anyone, i think i can say that it didn't quite go that way.

now, not that i have anything against the way they chose to go with these guys. It's more the fact that they are from two factions that HATE! eachother.

 

there is a major lack of conflict within your own ranks. the only one that really jumps to mind, is the fact that Cassandra really doesn't trust Sara.

 

And more race specific quests would be amazing! i mean would it hurt to let us play through our own back story? and get a good feel for the horrific things done to elves, or the brutal battles of the Qunari and Tevinter? or even just be the laid back lazy nobel! it would add immensely to the game as a whole in my perspective! and it would give the feel that the factions ARE different, and why they are! 

Just my take on Krem. i think it was odd to place him in with The Iron Bull in the first place. I thought he would have worked better having something to do with Orlasis than the Qun.

[FKA_Servo]

Just my take on Krem. i think it was odd to place him in with The Iron Bull in the first place. I thought he would have worked better having something to do with Orlasis than the Qun.

 

Well, he's Tevinter. I think it works, since both he and Bull play against type. Meanwhile, other devout Qunari and Tevinter are slaughtering each other.

[Eronair]

Just my take on Krem. i think it was odd to place him in with The Iron Bull in the first place. I thought he would have worked better having something to do with Orlasis than the Qun.

 

My point exactly. I find it weird, because this specific thing makes the writers go into transgender, which just doesn't make sence to me when it's combined with the Qun. Orlais or perhaps Navarra would have been better choices.

 

 

Well, he's Tevinter. I think it works, since both he and Bull play against type. Meanwhile, other devout Qunari and Tevinter are slaughtering each other.

 

I'm not saying that your not entitled to your opinion Tommy, but the reason for this thread is trying to penpoint things that might be done better. We don't do that if we agree with the things in the game. Ofc. it has to be constructive and positive feedback to the devs, so it might get someone to think.

 

I don't think that anyone here doesn't like Iron Bull or Krem as characters. The conversation is more about the setting and the background that has some minor flaws in it. It might be nit picking it. BioWare are very good at making good storyline. Not perfect but good, but with a little feedback from the fans they can evolve for the next DA installment.

 

 

I was only really commenting on the fighting women thing. I find the way Bull presents the Qunari as odd, but I'm not sure how much it's him and how much is actually proper new information about the Qun.

 

I'm sorry i forgot to quote the other comment further up. still new to this forum, and actually writing on forums in general.