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[FKA_Servo]

So if they aren't going to give us the new dlc, the least they could do would be to fix the game so that Roderick doesn't end up looking like this until he sit's down...I'm glad you play pc, cool to have the dough to buy a top end gpu, i use to have for that a few years back now i don't so...

 

If you have a top end GPU from a few years ago, it is quite sufficient to run the game beautifully. We ran it on a 560ti for a minute before upgrading. You could even drop a buck today on a budget card like a 750 and run the game as well as a PS4.

 

 

Seeing how some new gen and PC folks have spoken here to old gen folks, even before release those words are well deserved.  I don't think they fit to everyone, but with certain people I'd use harsher words if it was allowed here ^^;

 

It is a little weird how some people here are unwilling to criticize Bioware and EA even when they do something that is emphatically worthy of criticism.

[Paul E Dangerously]

These systems are so ancient it boggles my mind that they lasted a decade. To be honest, I truly feel that Xbox 360 and PS3 players are lucky they even got DA:I on the console. This move doesn't really surprise me, though I concede that continuing to support it all the way until the end of the DLC cycle would've been nice.

 

That said, dropping platform support for two, uh, platforms, will free up resources that can be shunted back into other area's of DLC design.

 

It's like being "lucky" if you buy a new couch, get it home, and find out that it's filled with rats. "But your version of DAI still runs!" doesn't make it good.

 

Truthfully though, I've just given up on it. I just accepted I got ripped off, and don't plan on buying a Bioware game again unless maybe if it's $10 or under, and even then I'll be reading a ton of reviews first. I didn't even feel that way for DA2, and that game's plot is barely held together with duct tape, it's dumbed down from DAO and it does a lot of goofy things, but I still had some fun with it. I'll even defend ME3 in a lot of respects.

 

I can't say that with DAI.

 

To anyone that's played 360 DAI recently: Did they ever fix the potato people on the bridge in the prologue? Or the Inqusition reveal cutscene that has the banner look like someone blew up an 8x8 .jpg about a hundred times?

[Ariella]

witch is a total cop out,that's like owning a 2014 car and not being able to put fuel in it unless you go out and buy a 2015 model

 

Nope, more like you have a 2014 car and the dealership no longer is offering extras like heated seats. The DLC has nothing to do with how the game runs.

 

If they were cutting patch support for DAI on 360 or PS3 your analogy would be somewhat correct, but DLC is not essential to running the blasted game.

 

Yes, it does suck, and yes, it would be nice if EA would allow for an exchange considering the situation. However, I expect the moon to come crashing into the Earth before that happens.

 

And I'm willing to bet money this isn't a decision made by Mike Laidlaw and the DA team. In fact, if anyone it's their operating officer in consultation with the front office at EA. It makes me wonder though if the last gen platforms sold few enough that they can justify this considering how well DAI did initially. 

 

It does suck, but if they do decide to do anything, they'll probably won't say it until the new story DLC comes out or around that time.

[Orvar83]

If you have a top end GPU from a few years ago, it is quite sufficient to run the game beautifully. We ran it on a 560ti for a minute before upgrading. You could even drop a buck today on a budget card like a 750 and run the game as well as a PS4.

 

 yeah i know, I use to have a HD7970 but lost it to a robbery, and right now my finances are a little tough so i have to rely on my ps3 and my vita of all things :S to do my gaming.....bad luck i guess. Also here where I live pcs are more costly than normal for me to buy a gtx 750 or a r9 270x it would probably cost arround $350/$400 just the gpu so, for the moment i'm better off saving pennies for a ps4 which is cheaper.

[Panda]

To anyone that's played 360 DAI recently: Did they ever fix the potato people on the bridge in the prologue? Or the Inqusition reveal cutscene that has the banner look like someone blew up an 8x8 .jpg about a hundred times?

 

Well I play with PS3 and if it helps.. no. I haven't seen any fixes on textures and quality of them. Though I think textures in inventory load little better than they used to (not anymore layer by layer by layer..).

[GreatBlueHeron]

Nope, more like you have a 2014 car and the dealership no longer is offering extras like heated seats. The DLC has nothing to do with how the game runs.
 
If they were cutting patch support for DAI on 360 or PS3 your analogy would be somewhat correct, but DLC is not essential to running the blasted game.
 
Yes, it does suck, and yes, it would be nice if EA would allow for an exchange considering the situation. However, I expect the moon to come crashing into the Earth before that happens.
 
And I'm willing to bet money this isn't a decision made by Mike Laidlaw and the DA team. In fact, if anyone it's their operating officer in consultation with the front office at EA. It makes me wonder though if the last gen platforms sold few enough that they can justify this considering how well DAI did initially. 
 
It does suck, but if they do decide to do anything, they'll probably won't say it until the new story DLC comes out or around that time.

They did cut patch support. It was confirmed by Bioware in this thread: http://forum.bioware...-going-forward/

[KBomb]

They did cut patch support. It was confirmed by Bioware in this thread: http://forum.bioware...-going-forward/

I really don't understand when people say, "You don't need dlc to play the game." What an asinine thing to say.

If no was being offered at all, I would agree. The fact that it's being offered to some and not all who purchased the game, is like a slap in the face to some.

Unless they plan on releasing no story dlc whatsoever, it's a crappy thing to do because old genners will not get to finish their story. They have to watch as everyone else crosses the finish line. How could anyone think that's fair? They spent the same amount of money we did. A lot of them bought the dlc already offered-- all without pre-existing knowledge that they were getting the shaft.

It's deplorable treatment.

[GreatBlueHeron]

I agree, KBomb, so I'm not supporting Bioware or EA any more. When you have Bioware employees saying "it's in the TOS", at the end of the day they are treating their customers differently and it's a horrible excuse. Congrats, Bioware and EA, you gave yourself an out for any unfair or negative situation with your several page disclaimer. Respectable companies throw their customers a bone. The ones that don't lose customers.

[GithCheater]

I agree, KBomb, so I'm not supporting Bioware or EA any more. When you have Bioware employees saying "it's in the TOS", at the end of the day they are treating their customers differently and it's a horrible excuse. Congrats, Bioware and EA, you gave yourself an out for any unfair or negative situation with your several page disclaimer. Respectable companies throw their customers a bone. The ones that don't lose customers.

 

Oh no ...Throwing a bone (a discount for DAI last-gen owners) would mean caving to last gen entitlement, and the elite DAI next gen and pc customers would strongly disapprove (disgusted noise).

[thesuperdarkone2]

Oh no ...Throwing a bone (a discount for DAI last-gen owners) would mean caving to last gen entitlement, and the elite DAI next gen and pc customers would strongly disapprove (disgusted noise).

What's sad is that some people actually believe that.

[Panda]

Oh no ...Throwing a bone (a discount for DAI last-gen owners) would mean caving to last gen entitlement, and the elite DAI next gen and pc customers would strongly disapprove (disgusted noise).

 

For person to disapprove when some group gets something small after something bad happened them.. when they don't lose anything themselves, is kinda like being a narcistic dick. It'd be like people being against charity, cause they don't need charity themselves. I really doubt majority of new gen players would think it as negative thing, most wouldn't probaply care at all and some would be happy and regain some trust on Bioware just like last gen fans.

[KBomb]

For person to disapprove when some group gets something small after something bad happened them.. when they don't lose anything themselves, is kinda like being a narcistic dick. It'd be like people being against charity, cause they don't need charity themselves. I really doubt majority of new gen players would think it as negative thing, most wouldn't probaply care at all and some would be happy and regain some trust on Bioware just like last gen fans.

As someone who has a new gen, I want Bioware to throw some goodwill at old gen players. I can finish the story if I so desire, I am not losing a thing. I would see it as a gift to old genners, not as "something extra", but as a good will apology. A replacement , if you will, for not allowing them to finish a product they've paid for.

[GreatBlueHeron]

Oh no ...Throwing a bone (a discount for DAI last-gen owners) would mean caving to last gen entitlement, and the elite DAI next gen and pc customers would strongly disapprove (disgusted noise).

Lol. Dang it, I ran out of likes today!

I'm surprised I haven't been accused of being unfair by refusing to directly support any more EA games.

[Shail666]

So, let's get this straight Bioware/EA...

 

You want me to pay another 69.99$ for a second copy of DAI for my new PS4 (which cost 400$), only for me to have to pay another 15-40$ on top of it for the new DLC you're coming out with? 

 

LOL you must be joking.

 

If you don't want to lose money on the new DLC you should give the pre-gen audience (who already have their PS3/360 files linked with Keep) a voucher code to redeem the game for free.

 

Until then, I'll just watch the footage people rip from their PC's on youtube.

[discotune]

The Dragon Age universe is my absolute favorite; I'm a huge gaming nerd but nothing trumps my DA love. That said, I pre-ordered and bought DAI the day it came out, like a whole lot of us.  On 360.  While I understand (sort of, as much as I can without knowing the agreements between companies) the DLC exclusive crap that happened with Hakkon, and understand (I can visibly see why things are better developed for newer gen) why all following DLC will be only for better hardware, I don't understand why none of this wasn't told to us earlier.

 

I would've bought a newer gen system a long time ago...or at least, known earlier to save up for it.  It seems really bizarre marketing (if that's what it is) to not give people notice to save up the bunch of money needed to stay caught up with their favorite fictional universe.

 

That said, I'm buying an Xbox One this weekend, and I am surely grateful that my past DLC and handful of inquisitor saves will transfer over! Thank you all for that, at least!  The amount of money I'm forking over to do all this, though; I do feel a free copy of the game isn't out of the question. I've already paid so much to both EA and Microsoft--and Bioware got my money through the tshirt and books I've bought, if nowhere else--and now I have a pretty much worthless copy of DAI for 360.  I'm super pumped about the new DLC but this drawback is still kind of disheartening. 

[Carmen_Willow]

Dear Bioware,

 

It simply is not fair to cut us off without allowing 360 console users to buy ALL the DLC for DA:I.  I realize that perhaps customizing it for the old 360 cuts into the profit margin, but if you weren't going to let 360 users buy the ENTIRE game, including all the DLC, you should have told us ahead of time. I would have bought DA:I for my PC instead.

 

I love the Dragon Age franchise, and I've bought every DLC in the past. As a faithful customer of your world, I think that I was entitled to expect that you'd support the 360 content until DA:4. It was a stupid business decision to cut us off this way. If we want to play the remaining DLC you plan for this game, we not only have to purchase a new console but also REPURCHASE THE GAME AND THE DLC WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED. Shame on you.

[LadyNorbert]

Dear Bioware,

 

It simply is not fair to cut us off without allowing 360 console users to buy ALL the DLC for DA:I.  I realize that perhaps customizing it for the old 360 cuts into the profit margin, but if you weren't going to let 360 users buy the ENTIRE game, including all the DLC, you should have told us ahead of time. I would have bought DA:I for my PC instead.

 

I love the Dragon Age franchise, and I've bought every DLC in the past. As a faithful customer of your world, I think that I was entitled to expect that you'd support the 360 content until DA:4. It was a stupid business decision to cut us off this way. If we want to play the remaining DLC you plan for this game, we not only have to purchase a new console but also REPURCHASE THE GAME AND THE DLC WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED. Shame on you.

 

Ditto those of us on PS3. I've been a loyal BioWare customer for a long time. I guess those days are over.

[johnj1979]

Will Bioware or EA be upgrading consoles as well?

 

I seems fair if they are stopping all DLC for Xbox 360 and PS3 mid way through the life of the game then they should upgrade ALL owners of the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the game to to the PS4 and (the lesser console) Xbox One versions of the game and upgrade the consoles to PS4 and Xbox One.

 

Or maybe refund the price of the game and DLC on PS3 and Xbox 360 to the users of PS3 and Xbox 360.

[Sartoz]

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It was a given that Bio and EA would leave the old gen consoles behind.  PS3 and 360 owners paid a good sum for the game and now get the shaft from future DLCs.  Is it fair? No, of course not. But, that's the might of the dollar folks.

 

With the decision to drop the old hardware, I expect Bio to deliver DLCs with superior graphics since the devs are now unshackled from the old gen consoles.  Will they deliver a good story? That remains to be seen.

 

[Akrabra]

This is a sensitive topic and i am not quite sure what to say. The best thing would have been to leave the old gen behind when they started development, surely they knew at the time that new consoles were coming and they would sell alot at the start of a console cycle when there is a lack of games. EA was greedy as always, wanted to get the last few dollars out of the PS3/Xbox 360 people. This sucks and they should rectify it somehow. A new copy of the game is not unreasonable, but not likely to ever happen. Free DLC atleast, either Jaws of Hakkon or The Descent plus the item packs. I hope they fix this somehow or atleast adress it. 

[Paul E Dangerously]

Looking over this again, I really have two things to say on the matter before I put it to rest, and presumably put DAI to better use. Maybe as a coaster.

 

1) The press release is worded incredibly..well..someone really didn't think it over too hard.

 

"Did you start on 360 or PS3? Great! If you want to move to the new consoles, here you go! If you don't, well, screw off."

 

2) If they're judging this on sales of Jaws of Hakkon on old gen, they only have themselves to blame. Delaying it for a month while anybody with eyes or ears could hear "it's overpriced for the content" and see Youtube walkthroughs a plenty, I'd imagine it wouldn't have sold well, either.

 

Just imagine if they'd delayed the console release of the game a month. I wonder how much it would've sold then.

 

I hope that Microsoft XB1 exclusivity money was worth some more bad feelings from consumers. Not like there's been any shortage of that during the whole DA2-ME3 cycle, what are a few more on top of it?

[Ariella]

They did cut patch support. It was confirmed by Bioware in this thread: http://forum.bioware...-going-forward/

I caught that on the bounce as I haven't checked the thread in a few days.

This IS an issue for me, even though it doesn't effect me personally. I'm still betting that the DA team had little to do with the decision directly. So ire should be directed at the front office, not the grunts actually doing the work.

[GreatBlueHeron]

I caught that on the bounce as I haven't checked the thread in a few days.

This IS an issue for me, even though it doesn't effect me personally. I'm still betting that the DA team had little to do with the decision directly. So ire should be directed at the front office, not the grunts actually doing the work.

Agreed, but there's no way to communicate with the decision makers. All I wanted was to send an email to EA. The website wants to force complaints through their forum. I live chatted with someone and got nowhere. The "grunts" are the only ones listening. They can pass it up the chain.

[Ariella]

Agreed, but there's no way to communicate with the decision makers. All I wanted was to send an email to EA. The website wants to force complaints through their forum. I live chatted with someone and got nowhere. The "grunts" are the only ones listening. They can pass it up the chain.

I understand, but am unsure how much juice a programmer or writer or animator has with the chain of command.

I have this image of them being patted on the head while told to go play so the adults can chat.

[Panda]

Agreed, but there's no way to communicate with the decision makers. All I wanted was to send an email to EA. The website wants to force complaints through their forum. I live chatted with someone and got nowhere. The "grunts" are the only ones listening. They can pass it up the chain.

 

I understand, but am unsure how much juice a programmer or writer or animator has with the chain of command.

I have this image of them being patted on the head while told to go play so the adults can chat.

 

I'd imagine that Mike Laidlaw, Mark Darrah and Cameron Lee at least have some pull in the situation.