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[sandoval]

I'm totally lost here (I play on pc with xbox controller)

 

1. Exalted plains. I fight one of the Arcane Horrors on the rampart. It's important to take him out asap. No other enemies in the vicinity.

So I switch to tactical cam and set all my team to attack him with an action. Their names are all listed on top of him. All seems fine. I relase tac cam and

- Blackwall turns around and runs away

- Bull blows his horn

- Sera does something I don't know what

- my Inquisitor fires a full barrage into the magical door at her side instead at the Arcane Horrors in front of her.

- I throw my controller away and scream in agony and anger.

So how do I do this right?

 

2. How do I make my inquisitior keep a target outside of tactical view? F.ex. I want my inquisitor (mage) to clear out a whisp at the other end of the rift. I know about pressing right stick to target lock. Only that it doesn't work; aim is all over the place.

 

3. (unrelated question): how do I find a party member on the battlefield? Especially archers are sometimes hard to find. Now I pause the game, give a moving order and then follow back the dotted line. There must be a better method. How?

 

[BansheeOwnage]

I'm totally lost here (I play on pc with xbox controller)

 

1. Exalted plains. I fight one of the Arcane Horrors on the rampart. It's important to take him out asap. No other enemies in the vicinity.

So I switch to tactical cam and set all my team to attack him with an action. Their names are all listed on top of him. All seems fine. I relase tac cam and

- Blackwall turns around and runs away

- Bull blows his horn

- Sera does something I don't know what

- my Inquisitor fires a full barrage into the magical door at her side instead at the Arcane Horrors in front of her.

- I throw my controller away and scream in agony and anger.

So how do I do this right?

 

2. How do I make my inquisitior keep a target outside of tactical view? F.ex. I want my inquisitor (mage) to clear out a whisp at the other end of the rift. I know about pressing right stick to target lock. Only that it doesn't work; aim is all over the place.

 

3. (unrelated question): how do I find a party member on the battlefield? Especially archers are sometimes hard to find. Now I pause the game, give a moving order and then follow back the dotted line. There must be a better method. How?

Try pressing whatever ability you want them to use on the Arcane Horror, then after they've fired, click on it again. They'll now auto-attack it between abilities. Alternatively, target the Horror with your character, then on the radial menu, hit "attack my target". You can do this as long as the little crosshair is on the Horror, but targeting it (so it appears red) will help. I believe it's the right stick on controllers.

 

As for finding your teammates, try switching to them out of tac cam. If you don't want to do that, well... Tac cam has a narrow view, so I'm not sure. They will be on your radar though.

 

I hope that helps!

[sandoval]

Try pressing whatever ability you want them to use on the Arcane Horror, then after they've fired, click on it again. They'll now auto-attack it between abilities. Alternatively, target the Horror with your character, then on the radial menu, hit "attack my target". You can do this as long as the little crosshair is on the Horror, but targeting it (so it appears red) will help. I believe it's the right stick on controllers.

 

 

 

that's what I did. None of them followed my orders. "Attack my target" wouldn't have helped, because even my inquisitor fired at something else.

 

Or does quitting from tactical cam erase all orders? Maybe that's the reason.

[BansheeOwnage]

that's what I did. None of them followed my orders. "Attack my target" wouldn't have helped, because even my inquisitor fired at something else.

 

Or does quitting from tactical cam erase all orders? Maybe that's the reason.

It doesn't erase them in my experience. "Attack my target" works consistently for me. I'm sorry it's not for you, and I'm not sure what else to suggest. I suppose you could manually start attacking a target by switching between all 4 people without tac cam, but that's not very smooth.

[I saved Star Wars :D]

Idk how the controller scheme translates to mouse & key board, but *if* you were using mouse then:

 

Right Click on an enemy = attack that enemy until he is dead.

Left Click = set as current target, but behaviours can overule it (e.g. if you have set Sera to Follow Blackwall and use left click, Sera will switch to Blackwall's target.)

 

You can use left click to have a little bit of an action queue - left click enemy 1 / press skill / left click enemy 2. That will execute the skill on the first guy and then jump on the second guy. A right click will override this and any other orders, including hold position.

 

I think you probably want:

 

Blackwall Follow Self

Bull Defend (which just means stay close to) Blackwall

Sera Follow Bull (which just means pick his targets, she should stay at range)

 

Select Blackwall and left click the arcane horror, use challenge, then left click some other enemy far away.  The select Bull and Sera and right click the arcane horror.

 

Between doing that and the behviours above, Blackwall should taunt the Horror then scoop up the attention of the other bad guys who all attack him. Meanwhile you and the other two focus and kill the Horror, who is still attacking Blackwall.

 

Once the Horror is dead, Bull will just whack things near Blackwall, who is taunting etc, whilst Sera pew pews Bull's target (although is she has a lot of AoE she may draw aggro.)

 

Like I said, I don't use a controller and looking at the manual (https://d2ro3qwxdn69...nuals_PC_ww.pdf) the documentation is absolute rubbish. I can't see it even mention the functionality of right-click vs left-click, never mind what the equivalent is for a controller :/ - but that is what you need I think. The behaviour of right click and left click is something I have personally tested so that definitely works.

 

The only thing I can see is on page 4 of that manual under "Lock on Target" to do the same as right click, you'd have to test it.

 

Also have a look at this thread and see if it helps:

https://www.reddit.c...rty_to_do_what/

 

Good luck!

[S_i_d_e_winder]

When I use the tac cam for targeting, I choose the target for each NPC/inquisitor, then I run the tac cam forward for a second. After I'm sure they did what I want, then I pull out of the tac cam.

[PapaCharlie9]

that's what I did. None of them followed my orders. "Attack my target" wouldn't have helped, because even my inquisitor fired at something else.
 
Or does quitting from tactical cam erase all orders? Maybe that's the reason.

How is the AI set up for each of your party members? If they are all Follow Controlled, then Attack my Target works fine as long as your controlled character locks a target.

I see that you are having trouble with that, though. That's a big contributor to your frustration. If you aren't getting the gold reticle -- that is, you only see the white targetting reticle -- you don't have a target locked. Other party members on Attack my Target or Follow Controlled will preferentially attack a locked target.

If you switch controlled character, you lose target lock -- though I think party members will continue to attack it until a new one is locked.

So figure out how to make target lock work and things should get better. And don't use tactical to set a target if you have AI set to Follow Controlled. It's not as effective as Pause/lock target, IMHO.

Re: Finding party members

Yeah, you are not imagining things. In a large battle field, some get lost. One clue is the HUD navigation circle bottom left screen. Enemies are red dots, party members are cream/white. But sometimes they are outside the circle. So here's what I do. I hit Pause, then cycle through the party members -- I think it is the D-pad on a controller -- using F1 through F4 on PC keyboard. Look through their eyes in Pause mode to figure out where they are.

[sandoval]

Thanks for all the answers.

I'm on my second playthrough. The first was with k&m when the game was new, and now I try again with an xbox controller. Silly question: how do I pause the game with the xbox controller?

 

 

 

 

 

Also have a look at this thread and see if it helps:

https://www.reddit.c...rty_to_do_what/

 

 

 know this text, even had it printed out. But I can't reproduce what is described in there. Second command always erases all previous instructions in my case.

 

 

 

How is the AI set up for each of your party members? If they are all Follow Controlled, then Attack my Target works fine as long as your controlled character locks a target.

I see that you are having trouble with that, though. That's a big contributor to your frustration. If you aren't getting the gold reticle -- that is, you only see the white targetting reticle -- you don't have a target locked. Other party members on Attack my Target or Follow Controlled will preferentially attack a locked target.

If you switch controlled character, you lose target lock -- though I think party members will continue to attack it until a new one is locked.

So figure out how to make target lock work and things should get better. And don't use tactical to set a target if you have AI set to Follow Controlled. It's not as effective as Pause/lock target, IMHO.

Re: Finding party members

Yeah, you are not imagining things. In a large battle field, some get lost. One clue is the HUD navigation circle bottom left screen. Enemies are red dots, party members are cream/white. But sometimes they are outside the circle. So here's what I do. I hit Pause, then cycle through the party members -- I think it is the D-pad on a controller -- using F1 through F4 on PC keyboard. Look through their eyes in Pause mode to figure out where they are.

 

I have set all party members to follow themselves. I did this because I'm often changing the party and I don't want to have to change settings all the time. The idea is that they do whatever they want and if a special situation arises, I coordinate manually. If only they did what I tell them to do.

[CorniliuS]

 

My advise don't coordinate them manually it's not dao there is no point in doing this anymore, besides in game so many random fights you gonna get tired very soon from switching between characters and activating tac cam. Concentrate on abilities, and prioritize them, that way you can control they behavior...to some extent of course.

[I saved Star Wars :D]

 know this text, even had it printed out. But I can't reproduce what is described in there. Second command always erases all previous instructions in my case.

 

I just plugged in my controller and tried it a couple of times. I move the tac cam cursor thingy over an enemy and press A and that character will attack that enemy, if set to follow self they stay on that target for me. If I wanted the two commands, then I select the enemy I want attacked first, press A then select some other enemy and press the hot key for ability (like taunt.) When I un pause, that character runs to the second enemy and taunts, then attacks the first enemy.

 

TL;DR it works okay for me. I wonder if the pathfinding on those ramparts is part of the issue - which might explain why Blackwall is running off in the wrong direction. One way to test is to issue the orders let the fight play for a few seconds than jump back in to tac-cam. If your party members still have their attack targets from you then the Arcane Horror should have their name above him with "attack." If this isn't there then it means they are now doing their own thing as per your behaviour settings.

 

Edit: my TLDR is longer than my original point gg self-rekt

Modifié par I saved Star Wars :D, 08 juillet 2015 - 12:08 .

[PapaCharlie9]

I have set all party members to follow themselves. I did this because I'm often changing the party and I don't want to have to change settings all the time. The idea is that they do whatever they want and if a special situation arises, I coordinate manually. If only they did what I tell them to do.

Well that explains most of the problem, although per-character tactical commands should stick in that case. You might have to stay in Tactical mode all the time, though. Attack my Target might also work if you lock a target, I'm not sure though, since I've never set all party members on Follow Self. Only my tank.

For Pause, looks like you are out of luck, unless it is on the radial menu. Not enough buttons on the controller for it:

http://guides.gamepr...de.asp?ID=27839

http://d2ro3qwxdn69c...Xbox One_en.pdf

[I saved Star Wars :D]

Well that explains most of the problem, although per-character tactical commands should stick in that case. You might have to stay in Tactical mode all the time, though. Attack my Target might also work if you lock a target, I'm not sure though, since I've never set all party members on Follow Self. Only my tank.

For Pause, looks like you are out of luck, unless it is on the radial menu. Not enough buttons on the controller for it:

http://guides.gamepr...de.asp?ID=27839

http://d2ro3qwxdn69c...Xbox One_en.pdf

 

Idk - I went and tried it using a controller on PC and worked fine for me without staying in Tactical mode, with follow self or defend/follow someone else. They all stayed on that target I gave them until it was dead and every time I paused they still had the Attack symbol for that party member above the correct enemy's head.

 

I can't help but think it's to do with the terrain on those ramparts where the Arcane Horror's are - maybe the party members are taking the long way round or something, idk. The OP can test it easily enough though by pausing a few times and seeing if the Arcane Horror still has the the "attack" order above it's health bar for his companions.

[PapaCharlie9]

Idk - I went and tried it using a controller on PC and worked fine for me without staying in Tactical mode, with follow self or defend/follow someone else. They all stayed on that target I gave them until it was dead and every time I paused they still had the Attack symbol for that party member above the correct enemy's head.

Test results will trump my faulty memory every time. Well done.

[I saved Star Wars :D]

I love this game, but this thread says a lot about how poorly it has been documented and how useless the manual is.

 

There are three of us in a thread discussing how to make a party member attack a target and we got three different answers and had to go in game to test it XD