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#51
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So you got caught lying and this lame comeback is all you could do ? LMAO 

Oh, I was caught lying now?

 

Well, um, no that's not how it works - if you make a claim, you have to back it up in order to be taken seriously. It's a standard courtesy in any sort of half-decent discussion.

I don't care if you take me seriously or not, read my previous post.



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No I just pulled all of that from my ass. :rolleyes: If you want to verify that, you can do so on your own. It's not my responsibility to prove this to you. I'm simply informing people who are criminally misinformed in their praise of CDPR. Your belief or misbelief in what I wrote has no effect on the reality of the situation. 

You make (stupid) assumptions, I ask you for proof and I should research if your (stupid) assumptions are true?(knowing that you indeed pulled all of that from your ass) Furthermore you call other people "misinformed", obviously with you being the only one "informed" (but refusing to give any proof) and assume what you wrote is the "reality" (again without any proof of your statements)

Have I been trolled or are you serious with this post?


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The Only real reason that witcher 3 was delayed is because CDproject Red didn't want to compete with Inquisition.  Sure there might have been a few problems, but that was secondary.  They weren't sure if they could be Inquisition, so they delayed their own game to not have to worry at it.

 

ANd you DO remember what they say about people who make assumptions, right?



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You make (stupid) assumptions, I ask you for proof and I should research if your (stupid) assumptions are true?(knowing that you indeed pulled all of that from your ass) Furthermore you call other people "misinformed", obviously with you being the only one "informed" (but refusing to give any proof) and assume what you wrote is the "reality" (again without any proof of your statements)

Have I been trolled or are you serious with this post?

I gain nothing from fabricating what I said, believe what you will. Willful ignorance doesn't change reality.



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I gain nothing from fabricating what I said, believe what you will. Willful ignorance doesn't change reality.

 

Ok, let's say I want to believe you, because why would I want to be ignorant and misinformed. 

 

According to your words - CDPR is being subsidized by Polish government. 

Assuming you're not fabricating anything surely you must have heard/read about it somewhere, so can you point me there?

 

Come on, posting one or even few links wont take you long. Don't be so stubborn, share the knowledge.


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You're both stubborn.

Type 'CD Projekt Red subsidized' into Google.

I don't know if they actually recieved money, but the Polish government does offer subsidization. This is not an unusual practice. Businesses can receive benefits from governments for tons of stuff. eg. In the entertainment field the State Government of Alaska subsidizes those, imo horrible*, Alaskan Reality Shows on cable. *excluding perhaps a few, for instance The Last Alaskans on Animal Planet is decent.
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The Only real reason that witcher 3 was delayed is because CDproject Red didn't want to compete with Inquisition. Sure there might have been a few problems, but that was secondary. They weren't sure if they could be Inquisition, so they delayed their own game to not have to worry at it.

ANd you DO remember what they say about people who make assumptions, right?


Do you have any quote that backs this up?

Either way, what does this have to do with Bioware/EA trying to double dip on DLC products? What does this have to do with Spoils of the Avaar not being of Jaws of Hakkon?

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The Only real reason that witcher 3 was delayed is because CDproject Red didn't want to compete with Inquisition.  Sure there might have been a few problems, but that was secondary.  They weren't sure if they could be Inquisition, so they delayed their own game to not have to worry at it.

 

ANd you DO remember what they say about people who make assumptions, right?

The only real reason of why CD projekt Red decided to delay for some month WH3 is because they were more concerned about the quality of their game,instead to win some goty.
The only reason of why DAI was released when it was still a mess,is because of the goty of 2014

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The only real reason of why CD projekt Red decided to delay for some month WH3 is because they were more concerned about the quality of their game,instead to win some goty.
The only reason of why DAI was released when it was still a mess,is because of the goty of 2014

 

 

Lol, Inquisition was already delayed once.



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Lol, Inquisition was already delayed once.

 

DAI was delayed twice actually, once for a year another for 2 months.



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When is the spoils of the qunari available?

I have been checking for the week for xbone and its not showing, was it released for ps4 first?



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When is the spoils of the qunari available?

I have been checking for the week for xbone and its not showing, was it released for ps4 first?

 

It was pulled from the stores because it wasn't supposed to be released IIRC.

 

Also, people suuure love beating the CDPR horse! Gentle reminder that these are the BSN forums, not whatever forums the Witcher 3 is on.


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Are we there yet?

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Well, um, no that's not how it works - if you make a claim, you have to back it up in order to be taken seriously. It's a standard courtesy in any sort of half-decent discussion.


Not here, I'm still waiting for someone to document that we should have had Qunari armor for a Tal Vashoth, so far it's all been "because I said so, and EA is eval". Until, that is, someone says something that totally blows an argument about "free" stuff out of the water, then it's "citation needed".

It's interesting to me that people feel the need to drive on these item packs so hard. They are not required to finish the base game, I have two games finished, and one where I'm playing around in my garden before I finish it, trying to get the pick the flowers, or whatever it's called achievement, all w/out any DLC at all for SP. I finished Jaws w/out buying Spoils of the Avaar too. So let's all blow up the internet over optional DLC, right? If you don't approve, don't buy it. It really is that simple. Some people are going to buy it, no matter how much one tries to berate them on the internet, because they want it, and frankly, it's nobody's business but their own. The only thing someone that doesn't approve can do is not buy it. If as many people don't approve and don't buy it as are posting they won't, it won't sell well, and they'll either stop making it, or change their practices, but it won't be because someone took it upon themselves to tell everyone else how to spend their money.
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Most people new to the franchise will buy the item packs I think. Like me buying them in DA2 all wide-eyed and everything. But at least DA2 item packs looks good and stats that level with you plus the companion specific bubbles. And there's a lot of them. 

 

I haven't bought any Spoils of whatever,  because I got kind of spoiled in TW3. But I WILL buy their next story dlc because I enjoyed JoH. It was not great but it was fun.



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The Only real reason that witcher 3 was delayed is because CDproject Red didn't want to compete with Inquisition.  Sure there might have been a few problems, but that was secondary.  They weren't sure if they could be Inquisition, so they delayed their own game to not have to worry at it.

 

ANd you DO remember what they say about people who make assumptions, right?

LOL. "Sure there might have been a few problems" was a primary problem. Source: My friend works at CDP Red. The game was delayed, because they needed more time to fix everything. They often worked overtime hours to do so, so I can assure you that some stupid competition was their last concern. 



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When is the spoils of the qunari available?

I have been checking for the week for xbone and its not showing, was it released for ps4 first?

 

 

It was leaked early on the Xbox then it was pulled.  It comes out on the 21st, tomorrow.



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People who cite cd projekt red as if they're the such kind hearted individuals tend to forget two things.

1. Their development is subsidized by their government. Meaning, no matter how many copies they sell they still get paid and there is less risk involved on the developers part. Pretty easy to flaunt yourself as the peoples champ when in reality sales numbers don't influence your payday at all.

2. This "free" dlc program is nothing more than held back content that is slowly released. You really think it takes them 1 week to create these dlcs? And yet every week they're coming out with new ones. These expansions were already completed long ago alongside development of the vanilla game. Your average sheeple is either completely ignorant or in denial of this. Fact of the matter is this is a common practice in the industry, we are seeing bioware do it themselves with these spoils packs. Only difference is bioware doesn't have a subsidized development, cdpr does. So bioware has to put a price tag on it to get paid while cdpr does not. The currency cdpr is accepting since it's development is subsidized is brownie points from gamers who will go to every corner of the earth singing their praises as if cdpr is giving them free content out of the kindness of their hearts.

I'm in no way defending biowares practices, but to suggest cdpr is any different is ludicrous.

 

1- It's perfectly legal and very common in Europe; even more common nowadays thaks to the EU funds. However, you must show that you are profitable or economic support will be shut down. It's not charity, unless political ties allow you to exist while in bankrupt (=economic history of Italy). However nobody will cripple their own profit. If CDPR wants to behave exactly as EA they could have, and this could have been more economically efficient for them, as they could simply earn more money. The fact that the government funds them is irrelevant then, since everyone will always try to maximize profits.

 

2- Obviously the "dlcs" were already made, but they could have sold them after a month. Or the same day of release, like EA/Bioware did with the Sebastian DLC (or Javik for ME3). They didn't. They made that choice (for a lot of evil reasons), but it's still the best one for players: they get for free content that could have been deleted from the game or sold for money.


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The ultimate thing is that some of the witcher warriors think that free DLC after week are just a good generosity of the CDPR well funny that, because there is no way they could have finished dlc in a week, so they probably made it with the game and then after a week they give it to you as a free dlc just so players are all wet for somethiing free, what the duck? Ye start crying and let BioWare know that they should release game with less hair styles and give us the rest after a week just so its free :D Seriously BioWare works on those item packs and DLCs they do work on it after the game is finished, every armor has to be done for every companion's body, for every Inquisitor, CDPR had it done in a few weeks and its done but good for them, they realised that if they dont implement something in a game and release it after a week for free they would be swarmed with grateful people about free things even tho they could have had it in a game, NO ONE FINISHES DLC IN A WEEK, wake up witcher warriors, stop the BioWare salt just because u get something for ''free''



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 NO ONE FINISHES DLC IN A WEEK, wake up witcher warriors, stop the BioWare salt just because u get something for ''free''

 

What you fail to understand it that the game got more content "for free", like alternate appearances, while other companies would have sold it. CDPR decided not to sold that stuff but they - here we are - could have. That's a fact. And, again, remember the Sebastian or Javik DLC and their release date. CDPR does nothing for free like all the others, but at least I find their politics decent. Not to mention the whole drm-free stuff.

 

Ah, I have all Bioware dlcs since I'm a fan of both DA and ME (and Bioware in general), including the alternate appearances packs for ME. You can be impartial even if you're a fanboy.



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What you fail to understand it that the game got more content "for free", like alternate appearances, while other companies would have sold it. CDPR decided not to sold that stuff but they - here we are - could have. That's a fact. And, again, remember the Sebastian or Javik DLC and their release date. CDPR does nothing for free like all the others, but at least I find their politics decent. Not to mention the whole drm-free stuff.

 

Ah, I have all Bioware dlcs since I'm a fan of both DA and ME (and Bioware in general), including the alternate appearances packs for ME. You can be impartial even if you're a fanboy.

 
Why would u cut out content from your own game just to release it for free a week later? Its just their way to gain love from fans nothing more, if it was in the game to begin with no one would mention it, release it a week later for free and everyone gets wet

Besides Bioware did what u said twice okay I get it was a screw up kinda, but they swore to never do that again right? Also people forget that they did free stuff too, black emporium, MP dlcs, heck they even gave MP fo free to everyone now



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Ofc MP would be free, more micro transactions potential there. And I don't give 2 figs about MP, if I want to play with other people I'll go back to WoW and I left that to play Dragon Age. Specifically for the story driven rpg.

 

And gerrof your high horse. They announced the 16 dlc way before the release so ofc they are going to start working on it.  TW3 did not need to add those 16 dlcs for free. The game is huge, and if not because of the controls, I would say it's perfect. I'm 85 hrs in and I haven't even met Ciri yet. If it was bioware that would have been 16x 5$ or maybe 7$ because they are not re-skins and has story contents.



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Ofc MP would be free, more micro transactions potential there. And I don't give 2 figs about MP, if I want to play with other people I'll go back to WoW and I left that to play Dragon Age. Specifically for the story driven rpg.

 

And gerrof your high horse. They announced the 16 dlc way before the release so ofc they are going to start working on it.  TW3 did not need to add those 16 dlcs for free. The game is huge, and if not because of the controls, I would say it's perfect. I'm 85 hrs in and I haven't even met Ciri yet. If it was bioware that would have been 16x 5$ or maybe 7$ because they are not re-skins and has story contents.

That you dont care about DA MP is really your problem, we who play it got free dlc, Black Emporium is free too (and believe me They really could have placed 5 dollar price tag on it) whats your problem that  you cant buy item packs which you dont need to finish the game or what? Unlike CDPR They have to work on those post-release (other body models than NPCs etc), CDPR just didnt include them in their game (even thou they were mainly finished) just so They could say we give u 16 free dlcs buy the game and u get them, yea nice marketing move there, people bought it hard, I really really hope BioWare starts cutting content out like hairstyles, eyecolors, skin tones, Skyhold main building customization and etc just so they could release it week later and people would be wet that they got free dlc which could have been in game to begin with :)



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That you dont care about DA MP is really your problem, we who play it got free dlc, Black Emporium is free too (and believe me They really could have placed 5 dollar price tag on it) whats your problem that  you cant buy item packs which you dont need to finish the game or what? Unlike CDPR They have to work on those post-release (other body models than NPCs etc), CDPR just didnt include them in their game (even thou they were mainly finished) just so They could say we give u 16 free dlcs buy the game and u get them, yea nice marketing move there, people bought it hard, I really really hope BioWare starts cutting content out like hairstyles, eyecolors, skin tones, Skyhold main building customization and etc just so they could release it week later and people would be wet that they got free dlc which could have been in game to begin with :)

I'm sure you have proof for that somewhere. If CDPR really cut content out of their finished game they sure put up a good masquerade, complete with delaying weekly free DLC because everyone was working on the patch and said DLC required the patch to work.

 

And for some reason you're also convinced that BioWare didn't cut out those Avvar armors that NPCs were already wearing in the vanilla game. You're sure you're not a tiny bit biased?  I've played both games, and I've experienced the post release support of both games. To me it's pretty obvious which company put in more effort in that area.

 

As fas as DAMP goes...it's not surprising that many people say they don't care about it. BioWare's main feature used to be the single player campaign, which means their fanbase tends to have a high amount of people who focus on that. Personally, I enjoyed ME3's MP for what it was and hoped DAMP would be similar, but it really isn't my taste. Too laggy. And the banter just gotta be a parody...



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Yes I am so poor I can't afford those re-skinned item packs that would have looked stunning on 4k :-)

Nevermind.


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