Why not also make it available for those who defeat those 10 Dragons in Single Player on Nightmare... not everyone likes the Multiplayer but would still like to get this deco too...
Why not simply a reward for killing all the dragons in the SP game without restriction on difficulty? Is already hard work for many on casual killing all the dragons.
Instead of doing few routine Fereldan Castle runs, you want people to kill dragon on nightmare?Why not also make it available for those who defeat those 10 Dragons in Single Player on Nightmare... not everyone likes the Multiplayer but would still like to get this deco too...
If you read the leaked survey MEA goes even further with getting SP rewards and in game currency, for playing MP. This is obviously the way EA is pushing Bioware games to make MP more and more important so they can monetise it and get more dollars from micro transactions.
From what I've read of those leaked surveys, those missions where you get SP rewards and in game currency can be played either with a single player squad or by a group of online players, meaning your not forced to do MP if you don't wish to in order to get those rewards.
It does not have to be on nightmare, it was simply an suggestion D: tho I killed all dragons on my nightmare run 
Some people really love to hate. By the time they wrote all those posts, they would have killed the dragon multiple times.
Instead of doing few routine Fereldan Castle runs, you want people to kill dragon on nightmare?
Not everyone likes or wants to play multiplayer, it's just an idea.. has nothing to do with hate 
That would be actually pretty cool.If you read the leaked survey MEA goes even further with getting SP rewards and in game currency, for playing MP.
Some people really love to hate. By the time they wrote all those posts, they would have killed the dragon multiple times.
Instead of doing few routine Fereldan Castle runs, you want people to kill dragon on nightmare?
It isn't about the difficulty or about the tedium of killing dragons on nightmare, it's about SP content gated behind MP. Not everyone wants to play MP, even for some admittedly cool Skyhold decor.
In my case, I was soured to MP by playing Diablo 3. Join a game, everyone would zoom through the level to get to the boss, kill the boss, and leave. Oh, and occasionally leave you stranded surrounded by tough mobs while they went off chasing a gold fairy. Some people may enjoy that kind of gameplay, but I don't. I like to poke around in the corners, talk to random NPCs, and enjoy the game at a leisurely pace. Plus, I don't enjoy endlessly dying and rubber banding because my internet sucks.
It's like dogs and cats. Dogs are social creatures, and they hunt in packs. Cats are solitary animals by nature, and they usually hunt alone. Offering cat toys as a reward for pack behavior is not going to make it any more appealing.
Some content is gated behind paywall, to access other you have to play (currently broken) web minigame or register copy of another game. Pretty much anything requires internet connection.It isn't about the difficulty or about the tedium of killing dragons on nightmare, it's about SP content gated behind MP. Not everyone wants to play MP, even for some admittedly cool Skyhold decor.
Some content is gated behind paywall, to access other you have to play (currently broken) web minigame or register copy of another game. Pretty much anything requires internet connection.
This is no CoD, people playing the MP play SP as well. Think of this allegedly cool decor as something for those playing both. If you like it, at least it is very easy to collect unlike some other items.
This isn't about paywalls. Or difficulty. Or registering other games. Or even minigames. Difference here is, we were clearly told that there'd be no SP content hidden behind MP. That such a thing would not happen.
This is showing Bioware to be less than honest with their customers.
Some content is gated behind paywall, to access other you have to play (currently broken) web minigame or register copy of another game. Pretty much anything requires internet connection.
This is no CoD, people playing the MP play SP as well. Think of this allegedly cool decor as something for those playing both. If you like it, at least it is very easy to collect unlike some other items.
1 The franchise has always had paid DLC. No harm, no foul.
2 The minigame was available to everyone with any kind of internet connection. It didn't even require purchase of the base game. It may have been a timed exclusive, but it wasn't gated behind a particular platform or playing style.
3 Origins had the Dead Space armor (which I still don't have). I won't play sci-fi, so no Ser Isaac's armor for me. Besides, I think the time's up on that offer, anyway. Again, this isn't something new.
4 Origins had retailer-specific items, too, and they were eventually available as free downloads.
Hey, if you like playing MP, great! If you like playing MP and SP, great! But a lot of people emphatically don't like MP for entirely valid reasons. If they're trying to entice SP players to try MP, it would make sense to make the MP environment more hospitable instead of offering SP treats.
I'm not going to grind at something I don't like for 20 hours to get a dragon head to hang on my wall. Not when I've killed 80 dragons in SP already.
I'm not going to buy loot chests so that I can play something I don't like.
In short, it's BioWare's decision to offer this content as an MP exclusive, but it's a stupid one. I might have purchased SP content as a DLC, but I'm not going to grind MP to get it.
There was a time when Dragon Age was a quality SP game. I grieve to see it turning into an MMO.
You are perfectly fine not being able to access content for whatever reason ... unless the reason is MP ... because you did not like MP in another game. Right.
Then again, thats your decision and its perfectly fine. Just no dragon heads for you though (not now, anyway).
I wont even argue that ridiculous 20 hour claim, as you already made you decision and it seems final.
BioWare is making MP games pretty much since its formation. DA predecessors NWN and BG had MP component. Think of it as the company going back to its roots.
.... we were clearly told that there'd be no SP content hidden behind MP. That such a thing would not happen.
This is showing Bioware to be less than honest with their customers.
I believe the wording was different.
I believe the wording was different.
Cross-posted from the Feedback thread:
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Mark Darrah @BioMarkDarrah 1m
And no, singleplayer content is NOT locked behind MP.
John Epler @eplerjc
To clarify, playing MP vs. not playing MP will have no impact on your SP experience.
Ability Drain @AbilityDrain
Since the characters work for our Inquisitor, will some of the items we unlock in multiplayer become available in story mode?Mike Laidlaw @Mike_Laidlaw
Aaryn Flynn @AarynFlynn
No, they're separate modes.
@AarynFlynn @dragonage count for SP so my question is, IS the MP going to have ANY effect on the SP at all?
@user @dragonage No gated content. But we do have some cool ideas for the future, even as we keep the experiences distinct.
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Exactly, the wording is very ambiguous.Cross-posted from the Feedback thread:
"@user @dragonage No gated content. But we do have some cool ideas for the future, even as we keep the experiences distinct."
Perhaps it was a 'cool idea'....
Exactly, the wording is very ambiguous.
No it's not. No content is not locked means exactly that. It is the most straight forward answer I have ever heard and is completely clear in it's meaning. The idea that it is ambiguous is laughable.
"@user @dragonage No gated content. But we do have some cool ideas for the future, even as we keep the experiences distinct."
Perhaps it was a 'cool idea'....
Mark Darrah is the boss and he made it quite clear, 'No, content is locked be hind MP'. Clear, straight forward, without ambiguity.
You are perfectly fine not being able to access content for whatever reason ... unless the reason is MP ... because you did not like MP in another game. Right.
Then again, thats your decision and its perfectly fine. Just no dragon heads for you though (not now, anyway).
I wont even argue that ridiculous 20 hour claim, as you already made you decision and it seems final.
BioWare is making MP games pretty much since its formation. DA predecessors NWN and BG had MP component. Think of it as the company going back to its roots.
I believe the wording was different.
So, you're saying that I could join a game at this very moment and kill a dragon within 15 minutes as a noob? Maybe MP is really that easy, but it sounds more than a little absurd.
But that isn't the point.
I don't object to exclusive content based on the purchase of other games because I would have to buy the game to access the content. I don't have Dead Space armor, but that's OK because I never paid for it in the first place. Just like I'm totally cool with not having Spoils of the Qunari gear unless I actually decide to buy the DLC.
And I wouldn't object to SP perks gated behind specific SP achievements. I don't have a completed Nightmare run, so if there were an in-game reward for completing Nightmare and I didn't have it, oh well.
I do object to SP perks gated behind MP achievements because I believe the two should be separate. I would have preferred that MP not be included in the game at all. When it was announced, the only reason I did not immediately cancel my preorder was that the developers solemnly swore that no SP content would be gated behind MP, that they would remain totally separate.
I've been to the MP forum. The language and the use of terms like "scrub" and heated debates about who deserves to be on the leaderboards all lead me to believe that the MP experience would be closer to my Diablo 3 experience than my BG2 LAN parties. I'm not a competitive person. My rule about that will always be "Don't go there."
At the time that was correct, the content in question was added months later via recent patch.No it's not. No content is not locked means exactly that. It is the most straight forward answer I have ever heard and is completely clear in it's meaning. The idea that it is ambiguous is laughable.
At the time that was correct, the content in question was added months later via recent patch.
And in light of the ME3 debacle, if they didn't expect us to hold them to their word, I don't know what to say.
At the time that was correct, the content in question was added months later via recent patch.
I've checked Mark's post again and it doesn't say, 'at this time.'
Others would have to do most of the fighting, but AFAIK there were players offering to exactly that. Or you may try you luck, should run into decent group relatively fast. Routine was designed to be played by new players.So, you're saying that I could join a game at this very moment and kill a dragon within 15 minutes as a noob? Maybe MP is really that easy, but it sounds more than a little absurd.
May as well think of DAMP as a separate game, similar to DAO or DA2 (both being required to access cosmetic items). On the plus side this separate game was bundled and installed with your copy of DAI.I don't object to exclusive content based on the purchase of other games because I would have to buy the game to access the content. I don't have Dead Space armor, but that's OK because I never paid for it in the first place. Just like I'm totally cool with not having Spoils of the Qunari gear unless I actually decide to buy the DLC.
And I wouldn't object to SP perks gated behind specific SP achievements. I don't have a completed Nightmare run, so if there were an in-game reward for completing Nightmare and I didn't have it, oh well.
I do object to SP perks gated behind MP achievements because I believe the two should be separate. I would have preferred that MP not be included in the game at all. When it was announced, the only reason I did not immediately cancel my preorder was that the developers solemnly swore that no SP content would be gated behind MP, that they would remain totally separate.
I dont think talk about MP leaderboards should concern someone who has no plans to play the game for any long period of time.I've been to the MP forum. The language and the use of terms like "scrub" and heated debates about who deserves to be on the leaderboards all lead me to believe that the MP experience would be closer to my Diablo 3 experience than my BG2 LAN parties. I'm not a competitive person. My rule about that will always be "Don't go there."
It is written in present tense and does not mention "future content". My English is not perfect, but it sounds like it pretty much only covers content existing at the time.I've checked Mark's post again and it doesn't say, 'at this time.'
At the time that was correct, the content in question was added months later via recent patch.
So why should we believe a d@mn thing that they can claim when "it was correct at the time" can be used as an excuse later?
Caveat emptor indeed!
May as well think of DAMP as a separate game, similar to DAO or DA2 (both being required to access cosmetic items). On the plus side this separate game was bundled and installed with your copy of DAI.
Really, now. Lucky us.
This is absurd, and trying to spin this as somehow positive is absurd. I like multiplayer, and I liked ME3 MP a lot. But gating any single player content behind outside participation without offering a solely SP path within game is one of the dumbest things Bioware has ever done. It was so stupid the first time around that when they tweeted that, I quite reasonably assumed that they meant it.
You're bending over backwards to defend something that's indefensible. Some players are completely locked out of this content. Even if they wanted to try to get it, they couldn't do it without shelling out cash for a gold subscription that they might not want or need otherwise.
Really, now. Lucky us.
This is absurd, and trying to spin this as somehow positive is absurd. I like multiplayer, and I liked ME3 MP a lot. But gating any single player content behind outside participation without offering a solely SP path within game is one of the dumbest things Bioware has ever done. It was so stupid the first time around that when they tweeted that, I quite reasonably assumed that they meant it.
You're bending over backwards to defend something that's indefensible. Some players are completely locked out of this content. Even if they wanted to try to get it, they couldn't do it without shelling out cash for a gold subscription that they might not want or need otherwise.
That's me. I've spent money on the other cosmetic dlc as well so this is the kind of thing I would want.
The game as shipped did not have content gated by MP. I dont think they ever promised they wont add new content with specific requirements.So why should we believe a d@mn thing that they can claim when "it was correct at the time" can be used as an excuse later?
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