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#126
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Not true people have no problem playing a new protagonist, the issue is that Bioware are ditching a setting they've spent years building since not only is it unnecessary (the majority of it is unexplored) it defeats the purpose of saving it in the first place. There's really no point in saving the MW if its going to be ditched forever may as well let the reaper's win.

 

It only matters for gameplay purposes. Everything in every game that is ever finished is "ditched forever" once the hero saves the day. The story ended with Shepard and the Crucible. The story continues in whatever way you want to head canon it, but Bioware is telling a new story. That's all it is.


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Even that i like this possibility, I prefer the continuation after the reaper war

https://twitter.com/...477762063101952

Look at the Michael Gamble's comment, there is a little hope, for me and the ones who actually like the ending.



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The Ark theory is an interesting theory and it does make sense.

 

They could also say that it was not the protheans who created the science but that it was created millions of years ago and each cycle tried to finish and improve the project but none could do it in time.

Or some did finish it in time and we may find them in the Andromeda galaxy.

 

The theory is possible.

 

Thank you for posting op.



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The Ark theory is an interesting theory and it does make sense.

 

They could also say that it was not the protheans who created the science but that it was created millions of years ago and each cycle tried to finish and improve the project but none could do it in time.

Or some did finish it in time and we may find them in the Andromeda galaxy.

 

The theory is possible.

 

Thank you for posting op.

I actually like the idea of Andromeda being the refugee of the Milky Way Galaxy.  But Ark theory I like it more for the ship being a generational ship than a portal to Andromeda. 

 

But with that said, this theory is pretty solid for ark, almost seems like you pulled it off Bioware after you hacked them, which I know you probably didn't hack Bioware and you just created this lol



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Even that i like this possibility, I prefer the continuation after the reaper war
https://twitter.com/...477762063101952
Look at the Michael Gamble's comment, there is a little hope, for me and the ones who actually like the ending.


What? He said "no need to worry about saves" most likely because it will have zero impact on the game story as they wont be canonizing an ending. I dont see how anyone could read that and take away that they must be considering the ending of ME3 to influence things.

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It only matters for gameplay purposes. Everything in every game that is ever finished is "ditched forever" once the hero saves the day. The story ended with Shepard and the Crucible. The story continues in whatever way you want to head canon it, but Bioware is telling a new story. That's all it is.

The EC can only show so much of the galaxy after the war and head canon will not do any justice exploring a post war society. Ditching the MW forever just renders the whole concept of saving it pointless.



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You say that like it's a bad thing.

That's because it is a bad thing.

 

As if Mass Effect 3 didn't already do that.

 

 

"Please tell us another story of the Shepherd."

Except doing it with an entire galaxy will be even worse.



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The EC can only show so much of the galaxy after the war and head canon will not do any justice exploring a post war society. Ditching the MW forever just renders the whole concept of saving it pointless.

 

The end of ME3 is the end of Shepard's story. If you weren't getting another Mass Effect at all would saving the Milky Way still be pointless?



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It only matters for gameplay purposes. Everything in every game that is ever finished is "ditched forever" once the hero saves the day. The story ended with Shepard and the Crucible. The story continues in whatever way you want to head canon it, but Bioware is telling a new story. That's all it is.

Then why are they slapping "Mass Effect" on it?



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Even that i like this possibility, I prefer the continuation after the reaper war

https://twitter.com/...477762063101952

Look at the Michael Gamble's comment, there is a little hope, for me and the ones who actually like the ending.

I still find that tweet funny

 

"Player choice is something we take very seriously"   :lol:


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#136
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Then why are they slapping "Mass Effect" on it?

 

I dunno. I'm kind of wondering that too. But what does that have to do with whether or not it's important to save the Milky Way?



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Then why are they slapping "Mass Effect" on it?

 

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No, i mean really. Its not like passionate developers have innovative ideas about a new ME game and they push it through EA management and get green light to make awesome game. This particular division of EA has a ME franchise and its bound to be milked. The order is given, now Mac Walters and the rest figure out how to do better than last time in the story section. It will be interesting because there is no good solution. Bah, graphics sell games mainly anyway.



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I dunno. I'm kind of wondering that too. But what does that have to do with whether or not it's important to save the Milky Way?

Because the setting fro the previous games was the Milky Way.  And intergalactic travel is, at best, implausible using Mass Effect technology.

 

So, as Peter Quill would say, why save the galaxy? "Because I'm one of the idiots who lives in it"



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Even that i like this possibility, I prefer the continuation after the reaper war
https://twitter.com/...477762063101952
Look at the Michael Gamble's comment, there is a little hope, for me and the ones who actually like the ending.

Mr. Gamble's comment directly contradicts Mr. Warners directly above it. They can't possibly take player choices seriously if they don't even care enough to know what those choices were.

No way around it. One of them is lying.

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Not really. They take player choices so seriously that they refuse to contradict any of them.
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I really wanted to be worried about the timeline, but honestly I can't. The endings were similar enough to me that if There were an Ark, I'd be cool with it. If they found some Andromeda transport space magic, I'd be OK with that too.

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Why keep the name Mass Effect? It's an established franchise name. It's all about marketing. There is only the harvest.


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#143
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The end of ME3 is the end of Shepard's story.

But its not the end of the MW, there's still a lot of tales to tell in the MW that don't involve Shepard or anyone from the ME trilogy.

 

If you weren't getting another Mass Effect at all would saving the Milky Way still be pointless?

 

Here's the thing if ME3 was going to be the last story in the entire franchise, then it wouldn't be pointless because its severing as the conclusion to the franchise as a whole and there would be no more stories told afterwards be it novels, comics etc. But the reality is that ME3 is the conclusion to Shepard's story, Bioware never said anything about ME3 being the end of the MW. Since Bioware is looking to ditch the MW altogether there making the trilogy pointless since they won't be telling any more stories in the MW ever again.



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But its not the end of the MW, there's still a lot of tales to tell in the MW that don't involve Shepard or anyone from the ME trilogy.

 

Of course there are. And there are a lot of stories left in the wizarding world after the Battle of Hogwarts. J.K. Rowling chose not to tell those stories. Bioware doesn't have to tell you a story they don't want to tell.



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I still find that tweet funny

 

"Player choice is something we take very seriously"   :lol:

 

As much as people don't like IT the theory really would've saved Bioware a lot of trouble like moving to another galaxy. I read somewhere they claim the Milky Way doesn't have enough to explore lol and thats why we are moving. Real reason through is they don't have the heart to hurt peoples feelings by canonizing an ending. Heck I suggested they do a poll of what ending people like and they could do multiple polls on popular sites that get high traffic to make sure they get effective results.

 

Fact is the Ark Theory resembles IT in many ways, trying to find reason for why its happening, which I would argue couldn't IT have prevented this?



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What? He said "no need to worry about saves" most likely because it will have zero impact on the game story as they wont be canonizing an ending. I dont see how anyone could read that and take away that they must be considering the ending of ME3 to influence things.

" Michael Gamble's comment," MICHAEL GAMBLE COMMENT

https://twitter.com/...sor=AOBWIZW39Ac



#147
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I still find that tweet funny

 

"Player choice is something we take very seriously"   :lol:

I don't like to feed trolls but ... just this one time.



#148
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Mr. Gamble's comment directly contradicts Mr. Warners directly above it. They can't possibly take player choices seriously if they don't even care enough to know what those choices were.

No way around it. One of them is lying.

Warner is talking about like jumping for the first time to the series in 2010 or 2012 instead of 2007, so for people that hasn't played the old trilogy, they don't need to play previous games.
For Gamble's comment i'm assuming he's talking about the endings, and yes i love my ending.
I like to see how society has grown and evolved


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" Michael Gamble's comment," MICHAEL GAMBLE COMMENT
https://twitter.com/...sor=AOBWIZW39Ac


Maybe I misinterpreted you, but I thought you were saying you were hoping your ending would influence Andromeda somehow. Gamble literally said there is no canon ending, and the only way to do that is to ignore them altogether.

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Not really. They take player choices so seriously that they refuse to contradict any of them.


Yep that to me is respecting player choice.