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[DaemionMoadrin]

hey... look at my warning posts.... that's literally how I got them. On what you said 

 

Only you yourself can see your warning points. ^^

[DextroDNA]

I hate the Ark Theory and I hate this proposed timeline. Just saying.

 

I hope BioWare find some way to fit this sequel into the timeline around ME3's events without a cop-out like the "ark". I'd take literally anything, even a canon ending or a retcon of the endings if it avoided this clusterf**k.

[DarthSliver]

I hate the Ark Theory and I hate this proposed timeline. Just saying.

 

I hope BioWare find some way to fit this sequel into the timeline around ME3's events without a cop-out like the "ark". I'd take literally anything, even a canon ending or a retcon of the endings if it avoided this clusterf**k.

 

And you can thank Bioware for this Clusterf**k. Ark Theory brought to life for the same reason Indoctrination Theory was, Mass Effect 3 Endings.  

 

People need to see the connection these two Theories have not the theories themselves but why these two theories even exist. 

[Zazzerka]

Only you yourself can see your warning points. ^^

 

Which is a shame, because I have so many that it would inspire jealousy in all that saw them (especially females).

[LinksOcarina]

Only you yourself can see your warning points. ^^

 

how do we get rid of them? 

 

I got two for calling people out on their bullshit in the not-nice way...it's quite annoying. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

how do we get rid of them? 

 

I got two for calling people out on their bullshit in the not-nice way...it's quite annoying. 

You can't.

[DaemionMoadrin]

how do we get rid of them? 

 

I got two for calling people out on their bullshit in the not-nice way...it's quite annoying. 

 

The mods have the option of setting an expiration date when they give out points. I have the feeling none of them actually use that feature, so the points stay. On the other hand, some people have a dozen and are still here... ^^

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The mods have the option of setting an expiration date when they give out points. I have the feeling none of them actually use that feature, so the points stay. On the other hand, some people have a dozen and are still here... ^^

They said the Warning Points are a way to easily find patterns with posters who have been getting them, both how often and what for, so they know whether more extreme punishments need to be initiated. 

[DaemionMoadrin]

They said the Warning Points are a way to easily find patterns with posters who have been getting them, both how often and what for, so they know whether more extreme punishments need to be initiated. 

 

75% of my warning points were utter BS. Like correcting someone, explaining that copyright violations and piracy are two very different crimes. I quoted someone who had a picture in their post ... some mod deemed that pic to be offensive and I got a warning.

 

Most of the time it's "A post of yours on [thread title] has been removed due to abusive behavior/inflammatory content. Please review the forum rules. Continuous violation of the forum rules will result in a ban." I have no idea which post it was, what exactly I did wrong and why the hell they only noticed long after the fact.

 

It's not like I go around insulting people or making discriminatory threads or anything.

[Kunari801]

RBG killed the setting. I don't understand what's so hard for people to grasp here. There's now way to return to anything in the Milky Way...

 

Exactly, the move to Andromeda is their way of side-stepping the RBG and I suspect something along the lines of the OP's timeline.  I hate the idea of yet another DEM saving the day.  I'm hoping for something more plausible than yet another DEM. 

[Drone223]

RBG killed the setting. I don't understand what's so hard for people to grasp here.

It didn't, Bioware's unwillingness to deal with the problems they created did, ditching the galaxy only shows they've learned nothing from their mistakes.

[Kabooooom]

It didn't, Bioware's unwillingness to deal with the problems they created did, ditching the galaxy only shows they've learned nothing from their mistakes.

Again, they can't deal with them without canonizing or homogenizing the endings.

So, which one do you want? Because preserving player choice isn't an option there. Those are your only two.

Personally, both are terrible options to me.

[trevelyan_shep]

I don't buy into this theory at all. Just sounds like a lot of hand waving and space magic.

[The Arbiter]

I hate the Ark Theory and I hate this proposed timeline. Just saying.

 

I hope BioWare find some way to fit this sequel into the timeline around ME3's events without a cop-out like the "ark". I'd take literally anything, even a canon ending or a retcon of the endings if it avoided this clusterf**k.

NOPE TOO LATE not gonna happen we are f****** one way or the other.

[Han Shot First]

Again, they can't deal with them without canonizing or homogenizing the endings.

So, which one do you want? Because preserving player choice isn't an option there. Those are your only two.

Personally, both are terrible options to me.

 

While I wouldn't mind Bioware rolling with a single ending choice for a Milky Way sequel, I agree with the rest of this post. 

 

Bioware's options if they return to the Milky Way are limited. They can either choose a single ending choice as the basis for their sequel, import all three ending choices but muddle the results so that everyone has the same world state (ex. Reapers dead or gone and everyone is a cyborg), or pretend the Shepard trilogy never happened and basically go the alternate universe route.

 

It is impossible however for Bioware to create a Milky Way sequel where all three ending choices are carried over without retconning the results.

[DarthSliver]

Again, they can't deal with them without canonizing or homogenizing the endings.

So, which one do you want? Because preserving player choice isn't an option there. Those are your only two.

Personally, both are terrible options to me.

 

I think there are two options to canonizing an idea but they both deal with popularity wins.

 

1. Our character can state to someone which he think happened that lead them to Andromeda. Bioware takes player data from the game so that would be a choice that could be rallied back to them. 

 

2. They could do a massive poll and do it several times on several different sites just to make sure everyone out there got to choose that cares about Mass Effect. 

 

 

But in both the most popular outcome of either would decide which ending they canonized, like the femshep default look thing they did before ME3 released. 

[Drone223]

Again, they can't deal with them without canonizing or homogenizing the endings.
So, which one do you want? Because preserving player choice isn't an option there. Those are your only two.
Personally, both are terrible options to me.

Except they've already made certain choices canon i.e. Udina is the councilor no matter what the player picks, so it's not out of the question that they can do it again.

[MrFob]

Except they've already made certain choices canon i.e. Udina is the councilor no matter what the player picks, so it's not out of the question that they can do it again.

 

Well, technically, the only time that choice was canonized was in the novel Retribution (and even there, it's just one line, which could have easily been left out).

The game never changes the player's choice. It's just that the outcome is always the same no matter what by the time of ME3.

[Drone223]

Well, technically, the only time that choice was canonized was in the novel Retribution (and even there, it's just one line, which could have easily been left out).

The game never changes the player's choice. It's just that the outcome is always the same no matter what by the time of ME3.

Still doesn't change the fact that he gets the position regardless of what choice the player picks so ultimately the choice is a pointless one. Not that choice had much of an impact in the first place though (I'm look at you ME2).

[MrFob]

Still doesn't change the fact that he gets the position regardless of what choice the player picks so ultimately the choice is a pointless one. Not that choice had much of an impact in the first place though (I'm look at you ME2).

 

Well, it does make a difference though. BW never did disrespect the players choices within the games. They never changed a player's choice (unlike other games with save import, for example The Witcher 2). The only exceptions have been admitted to be bugs by the devs (liek Conrad Verner or the whole deal with Serta Foundation).

 

Sure, not every decision you make had enormous consequences and you may have liked the councilor choice to have a bigger impact than a few codex lines by the time of ME3 but the same could be said for other choices. The Collector Base comes to mind.

 

If BW now canonized an ending, that would be very different then if they reduce the impact of the consequence of your choice of ambassador. Homogenizing them would also go against what the EC epilogues showed.

I wouldn't necessarily be against them canonizing an ending if that helps make a better new ME game but I don't think you could compare it with what they did to the councilor decision or anything else in the games so far for that matter.

[Drone223]

Well, it does make a difference though. BW never did disrespect the players choices within the games. They never changed a player's choice (unlike other games with save import, for example The Witcher 2). The only exceptions have been admitted to be bugs by the devs (liek Conrad Verner or the whole deal with Serta Foundation).

 

Sure, not every decision you make had enormous consequences and you may have liked the councilor choice to have a bigger impact than a few codex lines by the time of ME3 but the same could be said for other choices. The Collector Base comes to mind.

 

If BW now canonized an ending, that would be very different then if they reduce the impact of the consequence of your choice of ambassador. Homogenizing them would also go against what the EC epilogues showed.

I wouldn't necessarily be against them canonizing an ending if that helps make a better new ME game but I don't think you could compare it with what they did to the councilor decision or anything else in the games so far for that matter.

Problem is that there isn't much of a difference if either Udina or Anderson is pick since the scenes are nearly identical in how they play out. So the choice of picking a human councilor isn't really that meaningful in the end.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Problem is that there isn't much of a difference if either Udina or Anderson is pick since the scenes are nearly identical in how they play out. So the choice of picking a human councilor isn't really that meaningful in the end.

 

Already corrected you in another thread. You are wrong.

[Drone223]

Already corrected you in another thread. You are wrong.

Nope the choice is just meaningless, Udina gets the position one way or the other, there's really no point in picking Anderson. It would've been a better move on Biowares part to make Udina the councilor from the get go.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Nope the choice is just meaningless, Udina gets the position one way or the other, there's really no point in picking Anderson. It would've been a better move on Biowares part to make Udina the councilor from the get go.

 

Ok, smartpants. Who was the councilor in ME2 if you picked Anderson in ME1? Mh? It wasn't Udina.

[Kabooooom]

Except they've already made certain choices canon i.e. Udina is the councilor no matter what the player picks, so it's not out of the question that they can do it again.

Your argument is basically "well they've made some super inconsequential choices canon, therefore I think they should canonize an ending in which the entire galaxy is irreversibly and deeply affected".

And yet, I've noticed, you dont actually come out and say that you want an ending canonized.

If you dont - then you don't want an ending canonized and you don't want the game to take place in Andromeda. So you want the game to take place nowhere, as not canonizing an ending rules out the Milky Way.

And if you DO want an ending canonized, then why not just come out and say it? Make your argument "I think Bioware should make x ending canon and set the game in the Milky Way" rather than "I think setting it in Andromeda is stupid for x,y,z reasons and I offer no alternative as far as what I would actually like".

It would make debate on the matter more productive.