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Bioware Its Time, The Next Game Needs To Have Minrathous In It


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#101
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I want Minrathous. And having Maevaris as a companion. The comics made me incredibly thirsty for this.


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I want Minrathous. And having Maevaris as a companion. The comics made me incredibly thirsty for this.

 

By the Maker, these forums are gonna became a freaking blast if Mae turns out to be a companion.

 

I'll be eating so much popcorn! 



#103
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By the Maker, these forums are gonna became a freaking blast if Mae turns out to be a companion.

 

I'll be eating so much popcorn! 

 

AHAHA, if for nothing else, I'd want Mae to to be a companion only to see the reactions of forums!



#104
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Mae's powerful and fun, and a real magister, and family to Varric. And she needs another chance at love. Maybe she could get together with Cullen if both were unromanced, following the handkerchief incident in DAI.

 

THAT would make quite the fuss. It would be glorious. Let me dream, alright.

 

But really, she's very interesting. I loved the comics so much, and her interactions with Varric.



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I could be down for this for sure.  Listening to Dorian and IB's descriptions of Minrathous definitely makes me want to see it created.  

 

I loved DA:I so much, but Val Royeaux was a bit of a disappointment-- I suppose that's because they wanted to minimize city/urban gameplay after DAII and Kirkwall?  Just a thought.  



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I loved DA:I so much, but Val Royeaux was a bit of a disappointment-- I suppose that's because they wanted to minimize city/urban gameplay after DAII and Kirkwall?  Just a thought.  

 

They looked at the complaints about Kirkwall and concluded that players hated urban environments, so their solution was to create big open worlds which turned out to be incredibly dull and tedious and empty.

One of Bioware's problems is that they almost never find a middleground.

Players complain about the poor inventory and Mako controls and the boring planets? Get rid of the inventory, the Mako, and the planets.


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They looked at the complaints about Kirkwall and concluded that players hated urban environments, so their solution was to create big open worlds which turned out to be incredibly dull and tedious and empty.

One of Bioware's problems is that they almost never find a middleground.

 

True. There are fictional cities that can hold a story on their own. Let's be honest, since DA:O we've heard stories of the unconquerable city of Minrathous, capital of Humanity's oldest empire. Or the glamorous and deadly Antiva, home of wealthy merchants, royal diplomats and the most famous assassins in Thedas (it screams "you could set an Assassin's Creed-like spin-off here!").

 

Kirkwall wasn't enough. It would have been different if they set the game in the whole Free Marches. Playing Starkhaven's succession crisis instead of hearing the story second-hand. Or taking part in the Grand Tourney.

 

Seriously, before DA2, the only things we knew about the Free Marches is that it was a land divided into very different city-states and that their greatest event was the Grand Tourney. Come DA2 and... we only visit one city in the land of city-states and we never heard of the Grand Tourney. Which is a shame; imagine if Hawke had played in the tourney to earn the money his family needed instead of that Red Lyrium subplot.


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You actually can get the ceremonial tournament blade in act 3 in a side quest, that's where the initial information about the grand tourney came from.

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By the Maker, these forums are gonna became a freaking blast if Mae turns out to be a companion.

 

I'll be eating so much popcorn! 

 

It'll be even more fun if you can kill/dismiss her.



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It'll be even more fun if you can kill/dismiss her.

 

After a game where you literally can't kill a single companion? I can't say there wouldn't be a good reason to be concerned, depending on the context.



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At least Mae can be an interesting character in her own right, and probably a good source of Tevinter politics. I think the boards would only explode if a trans character was shoehorned in for the sake of it.



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I think the boards would only explode if a trans character was shoehorned in for the sake of it.

 

A trans character being present at all is the only justification we need :>


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A trans character being present at all is the only justification we need :>

 

Well.. I for one could deal with it. Even though I don't understand it.

 

My impression of Mae as a character though is a person who seemed above typical concerns in Tevinter, and yet very informative on how to play the game there. That would make a good ally if the protagonist was somewhat neutral or an outsider. She'd fit in with the typical "band of adventurers".


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For what it's worth, Minrathous is the setting for the upcoming Magekiller comic.  I'm hoping we'll see a lot and hear a lot more about its history (the dwarven Ambassadoria, the Juggernauts, the Minrathous Circle and the Denerim elves (if still living))...



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After a game where you literally can't kill a single companion? I can't say there wouldn't be a good reason to be concerned, depending on the context.

Blackwall can die, can't he?

 

And I was thinking more along the lines of 'among other companions that could die', not singling that one out.



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Blackwall can die, can't he?

 

Not by our hands, no.



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You actually can get the ceremonial tournament blade in act 3 in a side quest, that's where the initial information about the grand tourney came from.

 

That's still not taking part in it and the first mention of the Grand Tourney is from the codex entry on the Free Marches, back in DA:O.



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That's still not taking part in it and the first mention of the Grand Tourney is from the codex entry on the Free Marches, back in DA:O.


"I arrived in time for the Grand Tourney while it was on in Tantervale--a remarkable sight indeed. I saw Avvar hillsmen test their mettle against Orlesian Chevaliers, riders from the Anderfels buying Nevarran cavalry horses, Antivan craftsmen selling their wares to Tevinter mages. All of Thedas was on display."

"The Grand Tourney is the oldest, and perhaps only, tradition of the Free Marches. On those rare, one-in-a-thousand days when a Contest of Arms may be called, every Marcher unites in fellowship to witness the birth of a new champion.

Contestants come from all over Thedas. Minrathous alone always sends no fewer than two dozen entrants hoping to claim the honor for the Imperium. Once, the champion was an Avvar mountain man. Twice in a row, it was Talisa of Sundarin, a lady knight from the Anderfels—which scandalized the crowd, created endless drama amongst the participants, and therefore got her declared the "Most-Loved Champion in the History of the Tourney".

Each champion is presented a crown of sage leaves and a sword. The leaves wither, of course, as a reminder that all victories are fleeting, but the blade, Celebrant, endures and has passed from champion to champion since the first, inscribed with the names of each victor, a reminder that legend is eternal."

I'll take my codex over the one you mentioned as the better account

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If the next game has Minrathous in it I am only saying there need to be these three things.

 

  1. A shop that sells togas (with possible toga party side quest)
  2. A Roman bathhouse
  3. A Greek statue that looks like Dorian placed in the middle of a garden.


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Only if that statue can be knocked down into the bathhouse

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Only if that statue can be knocked down into the bathhouse

I was thing of making a rope out of the togas, roping them around the statue, to rope down in to the bathhouse through the skylight. :ph34r:



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I want Minrathous. And having Maevaris as a companion. The comics made me incredibly thirsty for this.

 

Oh I liked her. I couldn't see Minrathous without at least a cameo appearance from her, if not a companion. She was great in the comic.


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Oh I liked her. I couldn't see Minrathous without at least a cameo appearance from her, if not a companion. She was great in the comic.


As far as indifference to child murder goes anyway.

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I'll take my codex over the one you mentioned as the better account

 

What? :huh: This is not a matter of who told the better tale about the Grand Tourney. I mentioned that it was a disappointment we didn't see the Grand Tourney in DA2 when it was one of the only two remarkable things we knew of the Free Marches back in DA:O. That the codex entry on the Celebrant gives us better information about it than the codex entry we found in Arl Eamon's Estate is logical; if DA:O had offered us more information than DA2 about the most important event in the Free Marches, it would have been a great shame for the lore team.


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#125
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Maevaris will be like Vivienne, but ten times better. In her fabulous clothes, and unique Tevinter magic style, she will simply slay.