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[perfect_victime]

I really am trying not to laugh. With all the PS 3 and x-box 360 complaints out there I just want to add my humor to the flame

 

GTX 980 ti NVidia graphics card cost 600 USD

 

PlayStation 4 cost 400 USD

 

X-Box One cost 400 USD

 

It has been pointed out by various reviewers that the 980 will need to be upgraded next year by the fourth quarter for new games coming out in 2017. As with all things by that time the PS 4 and the Xbox1 will have reduced price, but the new graphic cards will be double in price. At Christmas a 150 USD PS 4 will be around, the DLC seems it will be closer to that date than not. A PS 5 won't be in production until 2017 with a 2018 release date so any games coming out in 2016 and 2017 will run on those two consoles. But not the 600 USD graphics card. no PC users will have to fork out for the 1000 USD NVidia Titan or the AMD equivalent.

 

So while I am listening to the 'sad splinters' being gathered it is hard for me to keep a smile of my face, I really am trying not to laugh, I am.

[Majestic Jazz]

Yeah, I have convinced myself that I need to switch to PC when it comes to many games. With ME:A, I already plan on building a 4K PC using the Titan card which I hope would be a bit cheaper by then. 

[Panda]

Sad to hear pc gaming becoming such elitist hobby. I just bought new PC myself for 400 euros. Price fitting to students budjet and it can even run some games. Not DAI cause BW wanted to make such elitist game but many other.

[chrstnmonks]

Sad to hear pc gaming becoming such elitist hobby. I just bought new PC myself for 400 euros. Price fitting to students budjet and it can even run some games. Not DAI cause BW wanted to make such elitist game but many other.

No i think their point is that in the long run it is cheaper than consoles. yes intial price is expensive, but your not having to switch out to a new consoles every few years and you could keep your games from one pc to another. 

[c0bra951]

No i think their point is that in the long run it is cheaper than consoles. yes intial price is expensive, but your not having to switch out to a new consoles every few years and you could keep your games from one pc to another. 

 

That's funny.  Generation 7 lasted nearly a decade.  Gen 8 will last a long while too.  How are PCs in any way cheaper--in the short run, in the long run, or anywhere in between?  PCs are for people who are willing to spend a lot more money to get the best look and performance.  I have nothing against that; but let's not delude ourselves here.

 

Oh, and at least on the Xbox ecosystem, you will be able to play your 360 games on the One.  Not that it matters to people who choose to keep both systems, which together cost much less than one of those Nvidia Titans.

[Donk]

Consoles are cheaper (initially) and easier to deal with overall.

 

You install a game, then away you go. You don't have to tweak performance or graphic settings. You don't have to worry about key codes and DRM. You don't have to upgrade every single time a powerful new game is released.

 

I also find it more comfortable. I like playing with a controller. I can lay back in my bed in front of the TV, it's relaxing. Sure, you can plug your PC to the TV and use a controller that way as well.. but using a console is just much simpler.

 

As for the old gen consoles -- how would you feel if it was announced that DLC will no longer be available to PC because of (insert reason here ____) ? You would be pissed. That goes for anybody who bought the game, and then doesn't get access to content.

[TheOgre]

Is PC Vs Consoles a Drinkquisition category?

[Panda]

No i think their point is that in the long run it is cheaper than consoles. yes intial price is expensive, but your not having to switch out to a new consoles every few years and you could keep your games from one pc to another.

Changing parts of PC easily comes as expensive as buying new console once a while. And it's not like PCs will run all old PC games. Windows 7 just refuses to run my Heroes 2 : (

[Donk]

Is PC Vs Consoles a Drinkquisition category?

 

*Checks DQ rule tome*

 

Yep.

[Donk]

I buy them all. I just like games. Not hardware. Prefer to use laptops though, so my PCs are never that powerful. Consoles fit a good niche for whatever doesn't fit there.

 

I do too. I own a bunch of older games on my PC, courtesy of Gog. I just prefer console.

[chrstnmonks]

Changing parts of PC easily comes as expensive as buying new console once a while. And it's not like PCs will run all old PC games. Windows 7 just refuses to run my Heroes 2 : (

I truns all of mine. if you don't mind me asking do you get your games on GOg or have you tried running in compatiability mode?

[KaiserShep]

No i think their point is that in the long run it is cheaper than consoles. yes intial price is expensive, but your not having to switch out to a new consoles every few years and you could keep your games from one pc to another. 

 

But what's "every few years"? If I buy a console now for $400, and it lasts me until 2020 and beyond, paying another $400 or so after that time is meaningless. I won't feel the $400 I spent over 5 years ago in the slightest. 

[Panda]

I truns all of mine. if you don't mind me asking do you get your games on GOg or have you tried running in compatiability mode?

I have it on disc. I think I have, it ran Heroes 3 & 4 just fine but not 1 & 2. I have some kind of collection version with them all.

[Uccio]

Consoles are cheaper (initially) and easier to deal with overall.

 

You install a game, then away you go. You don't have to tweak performance or graphic settings. You don't have to worry about key codes and DRM. You don't have to upgrade every single time a powerful new game is released.

 

I also find it more comfortable. I like playing with a controller. I can lay back in my bed in front of the TV, it's relaxing. Sure, you can plug your PC to the TV and use a controller that way as well.. but using a console is just much simpler.

 

As for the old gen consoles -- how would you feel if it was announced that DLC will no longer be available to PC because of (insert reason here ____) ? You would be pissed. That goes for anybody who bought the game, and then doesn't get access to content.

 

 

[BabyPuncher]

It has been pointed out by various reviewers that the 980 will need to be upgraded next year by the fourth quarter for new games coming out in 2017.

 

These 'reviewers' are flatly stupid and entirely wrong. Unless your idea of 'need' is a 'need' to play games at the highest quality possible. The 980 Titan is the best single card on the market. It's not going to be obsolete by 2017.

[perfect_victime]

I didn't mean this to be a console vs PC but I guess the truth of it is. Sry. It was mainly my thoughts vs the complaints about the future DLCs being next gen only.

 

@BabyPuncher You mean you 'DON'T' want to play on highest quality? Well I do.

 

@chrstnmonks  Graphic cards start getting behind the curb every couple years. A gaming console every 6-10 years. Gaming consoles are built around the card to keep it cool. If a person isn't careful they could burn out the graphics card just from overheating it.

 

I personally don't know many PC gamers who don't start looking into building/(or buying) a complete new system every three years because it isn't just the graphics card, its Ram, motherboards, monitors, disk space/hard drives. Since I bought my PS3 I have gone through  3 computers for gaming. So no I don't feel sad for console gamers not being able to play new DLC content on older systems.

[FeliciaM]

I buy them all. I just like games. Not hardware. Prefer to use laptops though, so my PCs are never that powerful. Consoles fit a good niche for whatever doesn't fit there.

 

What this guy said. I don't see the point in discrimination! I have a ps4, an xbox one, a decent gaming PC (DA:I capable), a 360, and two ps3s. My husband also has a decent laptop that can play crap like WoW and SWTOR. We aren't rich (he's military, so deployments make purchasing expensive things easy), and we don't have kids. So we spend our money on what we enjoy. And that's video games. We have all our bases covered if an exclusive comes out

 

Don't even get me started on all the old stuff we have, plus... all the nintendo products! Only thing we don't have is a Wii U...

[ashwind]

I really am trying not to laugh. With all the PS 3 and x-box 360 complaints out there I just want to add my humor to the flame

 

GTX 980 ti NVidia graphics card cost 600 USD

 

PlayStation 4 cost 400 USD

 

X-Box One cost 400 USD

 

It has been pointed out by various reviewers that the 980 will need to be upgraded next year by the fourth quarter for new games coming out in 2017. As with all things by that time the PS 4 and the Xbox1 will have reduced price, but the new graphic cards will be double in price. At Christmas a 150 USD PS 4 will be around, the DLC seems it will be closer to that date than not. A PS 5 won't be in production until 2017 with a 2018 release date so any games coming out in 2016 and 2017 will run on those two consoles. But not the 600 USD graphics card. no PC users will have to fork out for the 1000 USD NVidia Titan or the AMD equivalent.

 

So while I am listening to the 'sad splinters' being gathered it is hard for me to keep a smile of my face, I really am trying not to laugh, I am.

 

The GTX 980ti and the GTX 980 are two different cards. The difference in performance between the 980ti and Titan X is minimal. If the 980ti cant run it, the Titan X wont do any better. Yes - the $600 980ti is almost as powerful as the $1000 Titan X.

 

Who says that a GTX 980 needs to be upgraded next year for new games coming out in 2017? Unless you want QHD and UHD > 60fps. Even so, nobody knows how powerful are the new Pascal GPU yet.

[BraveVesperia]

Consoles are cheaper (initially) and easier to deal with overall.

 

You install a game, then away you go. You don't have to tweak performance or graphic settings. You don't have to worry about key codes and DRM. You don't have to upgrade every single time a powerful new game is released.

 

I also find it more comfortable. I like playing with a controller. I can lay back in my bed in front of the TV, it's relaxing. Sure, you can plug your PC to the TV and use a controller that way as well.. but using a console is just much simpler.

 

As for the old gen consoles -- how would you feel if it was announced that DLC will no longer be available to PC because of (insert reason here ____) ? You would be pissed. That goes for anybody who bought the game, and then doesn't get access to content.

Same here! My preparation for buying a new game is looking at the box to see if it's for Xbox 360/PS3/PS4... and then buying it and sticking it in the console. No upgrading the bits in the computer or building anything. I wouldn't know a motherboard if it came and hit me in the face.

 

Though I would like to try PC sometime because mods. Those look great. 

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Changing parts of PC easily comes as expensive as buying new console once a while. And it's not like PCs will run all old PC games. Windows 7 just refuses to run my Heroes 2 : (

 

*cough* Running Dune (1993) from Cryo Interactive, Star Trek Final Unity on my win 7 PC. Granted, a DOS emulator is needed but older games can be played on PCs. *cough*

[BSpud]

At Christmas a 150 USD PS 4 will be around, the DLC seems it will be closer to that date than not. A PS 5 won't be in production until 2017 with a 2018 release date

 

What.

[Ieldra]

I really am trying not to laugh. With all the PS 3 and x-box 360 complaints out there I just want to add my humor to the flame

 

GTX 980 ti NVidia graphics card cost 600 USD

 

PlayStation 4 cost 400 USD

 

X-Box One cost 400 USD

 

It has been pointed out by various reviewers that the 980 will need to be upgraded next year by the fourth quarter for new games coming out in 2017. As with all things by that time the PS 4 and the Xbox1 will have reduced price, but the new graphic cards will be double in price. At Christmas a 150 USD PS 4 will be around, the DLC seems it will be closer to that date than not. A PS 5 won't be in production until 2017 with a 2018 release date so any games coming out in 2016 and 2017 will run on those two consoles. But not the 600 USD graphics card. no PC users will have to fork out for the 1000 USD NVidia Titan or the AMD equivalent.

 

So while I am listening to the 'sad splinters' being gathered it is hard for me to keep a smile of my face, I really am trying not to laugh, I am.

And you believe that? That makes *me* laugh.

 

I have a 980 and don't think I'll have to buy a €700 graphics card any time soon. Maybe if I want to play in 4K, which I haven't before, but that's so far beyond what consoles can handle that any comparison is invalid by default, and in any case, if I want to play in 4k, the graphics card is the least of the problems since I'll need a new, very expensive monitor and a cable that can handle the data throughput as well since HDMI doesn't cut it.

 

I recommend not comparing apples to oranges. If you stick to a console's resolution, your 980 may well last until 2020. And if you're not content with that, well, that's why some people prefer to play on a PC and pay more for their hardware.

 

Edit:

As an aside, few people buy PCs just for gaming. They buy bigger PCs than they'd otherwise need if they play games, but the strength of the PC platform is its versatility, and the costs should be distributed over all applications you use on your PC.

[Nefla]

Consoles are cheaper and much less confusing. When I thought about switching to PC, everyone I asked about it gave me contradictory advice on which components to get and of course I have no clue how to sort all of that out so a filthy console peasant I will remain.

[Lady Lemonade]

I do not think that gaming on PC is that much more expensive compared to consoles. I myself by parts used, and for gpu one tier below top, since price decline there is rapid. Moreover, games for PC are often cheaper with steam sales or the possibility to just buy online codes. For example, I got DA:I on relaese for 35€ through game keys. This is just one game, but it adds up in the long run. That is, if you are willing to go digital. I can understand if people do not want to hassle with upgrading etc. all the time.

But for me, PC offers really more advantages and also mods. I know that I will need them as soon as I see the first pictures of hairstyles in ME Andromeda.