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I just started using Counterstrike & I like it a lot.  But the cooldown is kinda meh.  I have the ability ring for it but that only brings the active time up to 7.8 secs I believe.  That is not very long.

 

I do find it very useful.

 

I don't have enough promotions to get a lot of critical hits by just mashing R2.

 

Thoughts/advice?



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Use both. Walking Fortress will reduce the cooldown of Counterstrike very nicely.

 

If you had to pick between the two though, I think the utility of Counterstrike is better.



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Use both. Walking Fortress will reduce the cooldown of Counterstrike very nicely.

 

If you had to pick between the two though, I think the utility of Counterstrike is better.

 

Unless you're not perilous ready and can't handle pulling the entire map to you



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I've been running Payback Strike, Lunge & Slash, Shield & Counterstrike.  I was thinking about replacing Counterstrike with WF.

 

I finally just figured out how to use the shield properly.  Yesterday it just clicked for me all of the sudden and oh was it glorious.  Complete game changer for me.

 

I got the mace that has a 10% chance of HoV and it goes off all the time (wish the HoV ability ring worked with it).

 

I was just thinking I could use 2 WF's for every 1 Counterstrike. 



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What the hell is counter strike?  I don't see it at all on the Legos abilities.  Payback strike and sweet revenge yes but no where do a see a counter strike.



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Straight down on right tree



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Taunts everyone, gives full guard, knocks everyone on their butt when they melee you.  Think the icon is yellow?



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Doh! of course the 1st thing i go for for the legionnaire.  It is not showing up on the creversly character builder for some reason.



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Counter Strike is crap. There are much better alternatives. Even Unbowed is better now.



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Counter Strike is crap. There are much better alternatives. Even Unbowed is better now.

Cirvante

Can you test this out in NM FC zones 3 and 4? it would be interesting to see if the new mode and weapon makes this a change. I don't have the Hakkon's Honor so wouldn't be able to test it! Just academic curiosity!

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Counter Strike is crap. There are much better alternatives. Even Unbowed is better now.

 

Oh my god, I saw you on this forum way back when Inquisition first came out, and your posts are still unintelligent.

 

What, is there some strategy that only works on PC because only those who belong to the PC master race can actually assemble a four-man team of competent players? 

 

Try playing on PS4. Nobody can handle Perilous, let alone Nightmare. The playerbase is dead.

 

I have well over 250 wins with my Legionnaire, the vast majority of them on Perilous, and I guarantee you are wrong about Counterstrike. 



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Cirvante

Can you test this out in NM FC zones 3 and 4? it would be interesting to see if the new mode and weapon makes this a change. I don't have the Hakkon's Honor so wouldn't be able to test it! Just academic curiosity!

Test what exactly?



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Test what exactly?

Test counterstrike using the new Hakkon's Honor, the additional crit damage bonus, walking fortress bonus and see if in dense mob such as in zone 3 and 4 of NM FC, how it works vs what you would expect from Unbowed. I am wondering if CS would perform better.

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For nightmare lego's, I have seen a lot of them using "to the death". Good guard generation and helps the whole team push more damage on meaty targets. I haven't touched my lego in my months but I have taken my Katari into nightmare and loved "to the death" on it.

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I was looking at TTD Lex.  What is the range of it?  It was something I was thinking about trying.  I didn't realize it generated guard.  I feel like guard really improved since the last patch.  I can generated 1/4 to 1/2 pretty easily with the shield.



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My NM Lego build:

 

Counterstrike, To The Death, Walking Fortress, and Shield Bash

 

http://da-skills.net...1,001C1,010,1,b

 

Take down guarded enemies quickly, which is important when up against Brutes or Pride Demons etc. Something could be said for using Payback Strike instead, the stun, and being able to get up when you get knocked down is also great.



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My NM Lego build:

Counterstrike, To The Death, Walking Fortress, and Shield Bash

http://da-skills.net...1,001C1,010,1,b

Take down guarded enemies quickly, which is important when up against Brutes or Pride Demons etc. Something could be said for using Payback Strike instead, the stun, and being able to get up when you get knocked down is also great.


Lately I have been using this build, but with Lunge and Slash instead of Shield Bash for the gap closing and multiple hits. With the Walking Fortress proc from Hakkon's Honor, I hardly ever have to worry about cc.

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Oh my god, I saw you on this forum way back when Inquisition first came out, and your posts are still unintelligent.

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Because yours are so insightful arent they? Go away and stop whining if you dont like this game.
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Oh my god, I saw you on this forum way back when Inquisition first came out, and your posts are still unintelligent.

 

What, is there some strategy that only works on PC because only those who belong to the PC master race can actually assemble a four-man team of competent players? 

 

Try playing on PS4. Nobody can handle Perilous, let alone Nightmare. The playerbase is dead.

 

I have well over 250 wins with my Legionnaire, the vast majority of them on Perilous, and I guarantee you are wrong about Counterstrike. 

 

Oh no not you again the leaderboard champion in trolling and insults. Please, please leave. I agree with you, the game sucks, the playerbase is dead, we are all noobs thats left, we bow to your superiority, now .... move on please.

 

Zan the Man has a Plan



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See, the beauty of Counterstrike as a hidden gem is that if you get within melee range of ranged enemies and cast it, they often won't dodge away at first and get countered when attacking.

Ok so that's really more of a show off move that will get you killed on Nightmare. Still funny as hell.

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Oh my god, I saw you on this forum way back when Inquisition first came out, and your posts are still unintelligent.

What, is there some strategy that only works on PC because only those who belong to the PC master race can actually assemble a four-man team of competent players?

Try playing on PS4. Nobody can handle Perilous, let alone Nightmare. The playerbase is dead.

I have well over 250 wins with my Legionnaire, the vast majority of them on Perilous, and I guarantee you are wrong about Counterstrike.


With the new buffs to armor and guard and new difficulties, it's only natural that some lego abilities will suddenly be better than others. NM has much more knockdown spam and Unbowed with it's lower CD can recover you when you're down. Also builds full guard when surrounded and staggers. Counter Strike might be okay on Perilous, but on NM you will find it to be quite useless. Hakkon's honor also procs the upgraded version if you have it.

I don't care about your 250 lego games on perilous. Lego has undergone some drastic changes recently and even before that most experienced players have dropped CS for better alternatives. Play some FC nightmare games with him and then come back to me.
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Test counterstrike using the new Hakkon's Honor, the additional crit damage bonus, walking fortress bonus and see if in dense mob such as in zone 3 and 4 of NM FC, how it works vs what you would expect from Unbowed. I am wondering if CS would perform better.

Actually now I got a Hakkon's Honor to test. I did with CS and will now need to with UB. Unfortunately I think my tests will be relevant to only small group since my stats will skew my observations to the well promoted.