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[The Sauce of Awesome]

Since the announcement of Mass Effect: Andromeda, there has been a great deal of complaint from some of us here on the BSN, particularly on the fact that Bioware has decided to shift the setting of their franchise to the Andromeda galaxy, more or less in order to divorce themselves from the absolute mess that was the ME3 endings.

 

There has been quite a few alternatives offered by some of us that kept us in the Milky Way, such as canonising one of the endings, to prequels, to alternate realities, to even fast forwarding to a time so far in the future that the consequences of the chosen ending have...for lack of a better term: 'worn off' (which in this case wouldn't that just render your chosen ending completely pointless anyway?).

 

Don't worry, this isn't a criticism of your opinion on the matter. I completely respect freedom of speech and the opinions of others but it seems to me that all of these alternatives serve only one purpose and that's to open their own particular cans of worms. Let's face it, for those of us who advocate a canonised ending I guarantee they'll be three quarters of you complaining that your ending wasn't the one chosen to be canon (and remember, Refusal is a valid choice, too).

 

Again this isn't a criticism, but in the interest of fun I would like to pose a challenge to all of you who want to stay in the Milky Way to come up with a valid alternative to going to Andromeda, but using the following criteria:

 

• No prequels, side stories and/or alternate realities. Your proposed alternative must be set after the Reaper War. Set it as far in the future as you like, so long as it's after the events of 2186.
• No canon endings. Assume that all four of the endings to Mass Effect 3 are equally valid and equally non-canon. As they should be.
• No fast forwarding to a time where the consequences of each ending are no longer in effect. Assume each outcome is permanent and completely irreversible. Again, as they should be.
• No ambiguity in regards to the chosen endings. Something as big as defeating a fleet of sentient warships bent on the destruction of your species, people are bound to know exactly how they were defeated and what happened afterward.

I look forward to seeing what you can come up with. And again, I must say that this is purely for fun, not to start a flame war or anything like that. So, fire up those imaginations, people!

[karushna5]

I actually like going to Andromeda, but I like your positive attitude and it sounds fun.

 

Okay, how about a group of ships that crashed and were destroyed during the final conflict? A few asari, Turians and Humans ships have crashed on a known but troublesome planet. If refusal, little is known. The reapers haven't killed this group because the planet has strong clouds and they have never been too worried about stragglers. Destroy, the sky glowed Red, and no one can knows what happened. Control, same for blue, if Green, the clouds gain interference, but an occaisonal noise would come through. It would be a survival sci-fi game. With your own group leading the refugees through an inhospitable world. It all starts a year later when nearly all supplies are gone.

 

Thats all I can come up with for now, since any possibility has to take account that 98% of the Milky way groups we already know are dead.

 

This is breaking the rules but...20,000 years later. The Asari, Turian, Krogan, Salarians ecetera are all dead or left. Humans survived the refusal ending by the catalyst who erased all records of small off world colonies. And there are new races. Refusal just means there are stories everyone died. Synthesis means engineers when they use tech, it is green instead of orange and a couple of VIs are seen in background, and treated as everyone else, Control just means humans mention that there was a protector, and destroy really has no effect other than someone explains that tech had to change fast a long time ago, but ingenuity eventually made substitutes.

[Indigenous]

The idea of a Multiverse is an actual scientific theory so it should be just as valid.

 

In the same universe? Well the only truly unique effect of the reaper defeat would be the lost of the Mass Effect relays for a time, however if you control the reapers you can just get them to rebuild them and your back to the status-quo and Bioware need a new greater enemy like a galaxy conquering race of aliens that have set their sights on the milkyway.

 

If you destroyed the reapers maybe the allies turn on each other, or similar to control.

 

The hybrid ending. Bioware have been lax with their psuedoscience and their universe was not as intelligent as I would have liked. But man machine hybrids that would change everything. All species should be 'smarter'. I see groups based on ideas instead of race. And I see these groups looking to be the first to reach Andromeda. Maybe it gets bloody.

 

If the reapers won. I think this is one of the endings Bioware should have aimed for, have Shepard's main mission be to warn the next cycle about the reapers. Maybe he could also seek to preserve some of the races. Bioware would have had a chance to redo the battle against the reapers, thousands of years in the future. Maybe with a cloned Shepard.

 

What did you come up with?

 

In regards to Bioware's decision to go to Andromeda for their next game I think you're being too negative, yes it was a way to distance themselves from ME3's ending but I believe it is because they want to focus on story. A new beginning allows Bioware to pace their new story better.

 

(P.s. just because you didn't like Mass Effect 3's endings does not make them a mess. )

[Sion1138]

Time-travel plot. You start the game at the choice again and then you get thrown through time by the explosion and then things happen while you go back and forth until you end up back where you started.

 

I know, everybody hates it. I love it.

[The Sauce of Awesome]

The idea of a Multiverse is an actual scientific theory so it should be just as valid.

 

In the same universe? Well the only truly unique effect of the reaper defeat would be the lost of the Mass Effect relays for a time, however if you control the reapers you can just get them to rebuild them and your back to the status-quo and Bioware need a new greater enemy like a galaxy conquering race of aliens that have set their sights on the milkyway.

 

If you destroyed the reapers maybe the allies turn on each other.

 

The hybrid ending. Bioware have been lax with their psuedoscience and their universe was not as intelligent as I would have liked. But man machine hybrids that would change everything all species would be smarter. I see groups based on ideas instead of race. And I see these groups looking to be the first to reach Andromeda. Maybe it gets bloody.

 

If the reapers won. I think this is one of the endings Bioware should have aimed for, have Shepard's main mission be to warn the next cycle about the reapers. Maybe he could also seek to preserve some of the races. Bioware would have had a chance to redo the battle against the reapers, thousands of years in the future. Maybe with a cloned Shepard.

 

What did you come up with?

 

In regards to Bioware's decision to go to Andromeda for their next game I think you're being too negative, yes it was a way to distance themselves from ME3's ending but I believe it is because they want to focus on story. A new beginning allows Bioware to pace their new story better.

 

(P.s. just because you didn't like Mass Effect 3's endings does not make them a mess. )

 

Ah! But an actual scientific theory is still a theory until proven as fact. Besides, even if they were, it would still distance future games from how Mass Effect 3 ended, and thus create the same problem as some people view moving to Andromeda creates by not recognising the consequences of their chosen endings. And would still be invalid.

 

Anyway, unless I'm reading this wrong all you've done is essentially canonise each of the four endings by creating four completely separate scenarios.

 

And I'm not being negative in any way. I'm actually pro-Andromeda and I support the decision to move there. This was simply a challenge to the pro-Milky Way fans and anyone else who would like to participate in the interest of fun, as I've said.

 

But I thank you for taking part anyway!

 

(P.S.: When an ending to a story puts you in so tight a corner that you're forced to move to a completely different part of the universe just to continue the story...that to me counts as a 'mess', lol.)

[The Sauce of Awesome]

Time-travel plot. You start the game at the choice again and then you get thrown through time by the explosion and then things happen while you go back and forth until you end up back where you started.

 

I know, everybody hates it. I love it.

Alternate universe!

[Sion1138]

Alternate universe!

 

No. Classic shattered time thing.

 

It's great stuff.

[The Sauce of Awesome]

No. Classic shattered time thing.

 

It's great stuff.

Oh, I agree. Time travel is awesome, but time travel by it's very nature also creates an alternate reality because past events are changed and thus creating a completely new set of conditions. Unless of course you planned on doing everything exactly as you did in the original timeline right down to what you had for breakfast.

 

Which in that case what would be the point in travelling through time anyway? Lol.

 

So yeah...even time travel doesn't apply because of the criteria set. Good idea, though!

 

EDIT: I must add that going back in time goes against the whole "after the Reaper War" thing, too. Still a good idea!

[Indigenous]

So if you controlled and destroyed the reapers while creating man machine hybrids and losing to the reapers... Lets define this a little more. Shepard controls the reapers and makes them rebuild mass relays then he fuses man with machine before destroying the reapers but somehow the reapers win by, uh, managing to exterminate the majority of each race with their deaths. Well I guess the next game would be about either journeying to Andromeda or defending against an invasion from a galaxy conquering race of aliens.

 

I believe there is not much story left to tell in the Milky way and their remaining choices are obvious. However in Andromeda alot of things can happen including a return of the reapers.

 

Unless I played the game wrong I thought you could only choose one option? If you can choose all of them then I see why you think the ME3 endings were a mess.

 

(P.s what more can they do in the milky way? Also if you believe they went to Andromeda only because ME3's endings were a mess then yes you have a negative view. )

[CrutchCricket]

There is no solution that fits all the criteria you list. That's the point.

 

They blew it up.

 

Spoiler

Damn them! Damn them all to hell!

[AlexiaRevan]

I don't mind the Andromeda . What I do mind , is that its confusing . One time it is 'no it is a different game' then 'well...maybe we make a prequel and tell you who and why went there' ...

 

So as I'm not against Andromeda (just the idea of being screwed with a lame exuse story of why we end up there and leaving us hanging wonder ...what everyone back home is doing)...

 

My idea..was more like we start as an Alien in the Andromeda . But that get screwed when they decided we gonna be humaaan...again . 

 

*shrug*..I would have done it in reverse  

 

We are the new alien form and some new unknow strangers coming from the worm hole .  Politic unsue and what not . Since I'm not assuming the new worlds we gonna see are all in the Stone Age . there is a good chance there are high advanced civilization and they put us in jail for trespassing............

[Kabooooom]

Idk OP, I've made this exact challenge to people like Drone and everyone who insists that staying in the MW was a valid option.

There is no way to do it satisfying these criteria. That's why it has to be Andromeda, pretty much. (although I would have preferred a closer globular cluster, honestly).

[The Sauce of Awesome]

Idk OP, I've made this exact challenge to people like Drone and everyone who insists that staying in the MW was a valid option.

There is no way to do it satisfying these criteria. That's why it has to be Andromeda, pretty much. (although I would have preferred a closer globular cluster, honestly).

I don't think "Mass Effect: Closest Globular Cluster We Could Find" has much of a ring to it. But that might be me, lol.

 

And you're right, there is no way to do it while satisfying these criteria, and I imagine the writers over at Bioware were presented with a similar list when they were told to write a new ME game.

 

But what the hell, this thread's just for gits and shiggles! Go nuts!