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[SirMisterKitty]

First off, I realize that many of my fellow users/gamers here are (seeingly) apathetic, apologetic and/or supportive. To them I can only say that I sincerely hope the new DLC content is in fact every bit what they hope and are saying it to be. Something that (in fact) only the newer gen consoles can play and that it exceeds what DA:I or JoH was and is. At least perhaps something good can be born from this ugly debacle.

 

Now, as a fan and customer for ten years or so I am absolutely livid over this sudden decision to cut off DLC support from the old gen console users. It isn't fair or morally right (morality in the business world?) to simply abandon a portion of your fanbase due to whatever reason, AND to not offer any sort of apology (that I've seen anyways), but instead treat the situation as if it were a good thing, that you're doing us a favor?

 

I recieved my copy of DA:I from a beloved family member this past a Christmas, from a person who knew nothing about the game. They gifted it to me because they knew I wanted this game, that I had been excited all year to get the chance to play it. It was sixty-plus dollars then, a luxury we really couldn't afford. This family member bought the game for a console they knew I owned and played almost exclusively. My PS3. Sure, ancient though it may be it serves me well. Having survived multiple hard shut downs, do to frequent power outages we suffered from in the area. I had no desire, or the funds for that matter to upgrade at the time (and still don't in the foreseeable future).

So, several months down the road, devoting time and energy into this game. Raving and recommending it to other fellow gamers, friends etc. I got excited over the prospects of the DLC JoH only to be snagged for another month or so with that nasty Time Exclusivity business. I thought "fine I could wait a month or so, no biggie it happens all too frequently,". I didn't want to miss out! I wanted to continue my Inquisitor's story. Well, JoH finally was released for the PS, bought and played, and couldn't wait for the next addition. The opportunity to continue and prolong my DA:I adventure! Only to be practically slapped in the face one morning when surfing through the internet. My heart sunk when I read the headlines. That Bioware will no longer be supporting DLC content for the PS3/Xbox360.

 

This is just irresponsible of Bioware (EA whoever you want to blame), to release a game port incapable of carrying on through the DLC cycle and allowing devoted fans and gamers to finish their Inquisitor's story. I am/we're now being told that in order for finish our story/adventure we will have to rebuy the game AND purchase a new console? When some of us do not have the funds to simply squalor our money around. 

 

Why did you release DA:I for PS3 and 360? When it was apparent the game had trouble functioning on old gen since release, surely Bioware was aware that future DLCs would cause further stress. A forewarning would have be appriciated. As it is Bioware has strung along the old gen gamers only to cut them short, and screwed the new gen gamers out of a game that could have and should have been a game exceeding what was released.

 

Bioware, our ten years of business is over. I had been a fan and customer for this long, trying my best to buy all your games at launch and even every little DLC that went along with Dragon Age and Mass Effect to get the most out these cherished games, I've had the pleasure of playing. No more. Should I purchase another Bioware game it will be used. Should I decide to upgrade I will buy a used console, faults and all. I will not buy anymore DLCs until I see improvement in the way you conduct business. It is your name attached to every Mass Effect and Dragon Age title, it is your responsiblity to see to it that your customers have a reason to come back and buy your products. 

 

Thank you for your time.

 

TL;DR: Pissed over the decision to abandon the PS3 & Xbox 360. Irresponsible of Bioware & in poor taste. Will no longer be supporting Bioware financially.

I figured people would read, at least skim the OP before trying to debate or argue with my reasonings and opinions. Apparently, I was mistaken.

[AppalachianApex]

I can understand the frustration. It's a seriously bad move on Bioware/EA's part. If you're going to commit to releasing a game for both generations of consoles, then you had damn well better COMMIT to supporting the game on both generations of consoles. You don't get to release it for both and then decide months afterwards to say "Meh, current-gen is more important." That's not how it works.

[SirMisterKitty]

I can understand the frustration. It's a seriously bad move on Bioware/EA's part. If you're going to commit to releasing a game for both generations of consoles, then you had damn well better COMMIT to supporting the game on both generations of consoles. You don't get to release it for both and then decide months afterwards to say "Meh, current-gen is more important." That's not how it works.

My sentiments exactly. I think it's terrible business practice. Profits comes from the consumers, what happens when the consumers all get chased away, turned off and or angry? Less or no profits.

I honestly don't see the logic in screwing over a portion of your customers/fanbase, (possibly) it will just serve to later make them apprehensive towards future purchases.

[GreatBlueHeron]

Yeah, SirMisterKitty, I'm pretty upset, too. Now I'm just waiting for the day when they drop multiplayer support (patches, dlc and weekend events). When that happens, I won't have much of a reason to keep playing. I'll be buying used (if at all) any EA stamped games from this point forward. I don't have money right now to drop down on a new console, plus pay for online and buy the same game I already own. This is nothing more than a greedy cash grab by EA and they're not getting any more of my money. No more supporting multiplayer financially and no more dlc purchases. I am done. There are publishers out there with better customer service and I'll gladly give them my money. What a shame.

[raging_monkey]

Preach blue preach

[SirMisterKitty]

Yeah, SirMisterKitty, I'm pretty upset, too. Now I'm just waiting for the day when they drop multiplayer support (patches, dlc and weekend events). When that happens, I won't have much of a reason to keep playing. I'll be buying used (if at all) any EA stamped games from this point forward. I don't have money right now to drop down on a new console, plus pay for online and buy the same game I already own. This is nothing more than a greedy cash grab by EA and they're not getting any more of my money. No more supporting multiplayer financially and no more dlc purchases. I am done. There are publishers out there with better customer service and I'll gladly give them my money. What a shame.

I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that, while I don't play MP it would be a damn shame to deprive the old gen MPers of full support. That would be quite the double whammy.

I wish you luck and must admit glad to hear another person willing to penalize such nasty business tatics. It's such a shame that the only way we can get our point across is to deny them our wallets.

 

I've never had to deny a company my money, never got enraged enough to do so, but this... it's just soul crushing. When you put so much time and money into a franchise and then *POOF* it's like your business isn't even worth meddling with. I find that incredibly unprofessional.

[SirMisterKitty]

So what? These consoles shouldn't have been supported in the first place. It's why the game is technically abysmal and why the PC version, the supposed leading platform launched in shambles for a lot of people.

Furthermore, I don't see why you can't just purchase a new console and the game again? I assume you're living in a first world country and if lazy people in section 8 housing with welfare can buy Ps4's and multiple games then I don't see why you can't?

I have a feeling you didn't bother to read the OP carefully enough.

 

We are in agreement, they should have never released DA:I on old gen.

It only served to string us old gen users along with the hope of completeing our adventure, AND screw over the new gen gamers with game that ended up being less of what it should/could have been.

 

I nor anyone should have to. It's as simple as that.

(Also way to screw over the tax payers)
Not all of us are on welfare. Not all of us qualify for one reason or another. Not all of us waste what little money we have on games we already own.

Sure, some of us throw what extra money we have that isn't spent on bills, food and college on used, hand-me-down DVDs & games and other such luxuries. We shouldn't have to re-purchase a game (AND console) that was supposedly going to get full support and content etc. With no indication otherwise.

[DreamSever]

300 pounds is not a lot of money on a decent wage job, I bought my ps4 last year and still had plenty of money in the bank

 

the game would've been so much better without the old consoles, look at witcher 3 when cd projeckt decided next gen and pc only, a much better game with a bustling world, that is what inquisition could've been but they had to accommodate the old consoles too and we suffered for it just as much as you guys

 

look at each map, theres hardly any life to it, that's down to the old consoles holding it back

[lynroy]

Another thread like this!

 

At least they let you know now instead of announcing story DLC and THEN saying "Oh BTW, not available on last gen. Oops."

[GithCheater]

Another thread like this!

 

At least they let you know now instead of announcing story DLC and THEN saying "Oh BTW, not available on last gen. Oops."

At least they told that woman she was drinking methanol before she finished the bottle.

[SirMisterKitty]

Another thread like this!

 

At least they let you know now instead of announcing story DLC and THEN saying "Oh BTW, not available on last gen. Oops."

Three or four threads implies a lot?

Wow.

Aside from that I question why you would bother to post/visit such threads if they seem to bother you?

 

No. They should have announced this before they even released the game. They should have refrained from releasing DA:I on old gen. They should have refrained from releasing JoH. Instead they announce midway through the game's life cycle, after people have (potentially) invested more money than what they spent on the game.

[SirMisterKitty]

300 pounds is not a lot of money on a decent wage job, I bought my ps4 last year and still had plenty of money in the bank

 

the game would've been so much better without the old consoles, look at witcher 3 when cd projeckt decided next gen and pc only, a much better game with a bustling world, that is what inquisition could've been but they had to accommodate the old consoles too and we suffered for it just as much as you guys

 

look at each map, theres hardly any life to it, that's down to the old consoles holding it back

Here its $400. And while you're able to squeak by and spend 300 on a console not everyone else has the same luxury. Your situation isn't the same as mine or another person's.

Why should I have to buy a new console? When the game was released for old gen, with no indication of it being abandoned midway through it's DLC cycle?

 

Did you bother to at least skim through the OP? I agree, that DA:I should have been released for new gen only. It wouldn't have strung out us old users and screw over the new gen users with a less than what was expected on release.

[lynroy]

Three or four threads implies a lot?

Wow.

Aside from that I question why you would bother to post/visit such threads if they seem to bother you?

 

No. They should have announced this before they even released the game. They should have refrained from releasing DA:I on old gen. They should have refrained from releasing JoH. Instead they announce midway through the game's life cycle, after people have (potentially) invested more money than what they spent on the game.

There are closer to 10 threads on this and I didn't say it bothered me, did I? And I post in any threads that I want because I can.

 

Hindsight is 20/20. When they were developing the game, PS4/X1 did not exist. The game was released only one year after PS4/X1 hit the shelves and that was AFTER it was pushed back a year. Releasing it on all platforms was the smart decision at the time. You got to play the game, whether you enjoyed it or not. 

[KBomb]

So what? These consoles shouldn't have been supported in the first place. It's why the game is technically abysmal and why the PC version, the supposed leading platform launched in shambles for a lot of people.

Furthermore, I don't see why you can't just purchase a new console and the game again? I assume you're living in a first world country and if lazy people in section 8 housing with welfare can buy Ps4's and multiple games then I don't see why you can't?

[SirMisterKitty]

There are closer to 10 threads on this and I didn't say it bothered me, did I? And I post in any threads that I want because I can.

 

Hindsight is 20/20. When they were developing the game, PS4/X1 did not exist. The game was released only one year after PS4/X1 hit the shelves and that was AFTER it was pushed back a year. Releasing it on all platforms was the smart decision at the time. You got to play the game, whether you enjoyed it or not. 

I've personally seen four tops, and one of them was not even specifically about the DLCs. At least within this sub-forum, perhaps you've seen them elsewhere.

Your post and general attitude implied otherwise.

Feel free to post, I never said you couldn't, I'm just not sure why you would. You don't seem to have a real interest (or reason) on the matter.

 

Perhaps, but it is all conjecture. You/we can only assume "releasing it on all platforms was the smart decision at the time".

However, it does not excuse the company's irresponsiblity. They release a game that a portion of the fanbase/gamers bought without any indication that it/they would NOT recieve the same treatment as the other new gen games. If they had slapped a warning label across the box cover, hey great! I would have then accepted this decision; although I'd be missing out, I wouldn't be as ticked and mostly still be purchasing BioWare games and DLCs. Instead I find this mess abruptly one morning. 

A company should be held accountable for it's product, and not abandon it midway through it's life. Why should I put my faith and money for that matter in a company who abandons it's own customers and product?

 

Ah, but it is the business world isn't it? Morality and responsiblity are all inconveniences should they interfere with profits, as if large companies like BioWare and EA can't take a "hit" every so often. Well, that's all fine and dandy if they choose to pull off such nasty tactics, I'll have no part.

[SirMisterKitty]

Well crap. Now I'm all nostolgic.

[In Exile]

So what? These consoles shouldn't have been supported in the first place. It's why the game is technically abysmal and why the PC version, the supposed leading platform launched in shambles for a lot of people.

Furthermore, I don't see why you can't just purchase a new console and the game again? I assume you're living in a first world country and if lazy people in section 8 housing with welfare can buy Ps4's and multiple games then I don't see why you can't?

 

Well, sure. But they did release it in the first place and collected something like $60. Cutting off DLC support, that's low. 

[Panda]

Personally I do think that DAI was okay to be released in old gen consoles. We are living in cross-gen period, many games released this year are like that as well so its nothing weird. What is weird is BWs treatment towards old gen folks. Poor porting without fixed in patches and now this no DLC Bullshit? Clearly they just wanted make money out of us. Expecting us to buy same game twice just proves it.

[KBomb]

Well, sure. But they did release it in the first place and collected something like $60. Cutting off DLC support, that's low.

My mind is still boggled that he believes anyone who lives in a first world country automatically can afford to throw around a half a grand no matter the circumstance and I am not sure if he is insinuating that the OP should commit welfare fraud in order to purchase an expensive console or what. Bizarre, that post.

[SirMisterKitty]

Personally I do think that DAI was okay to be released in old gen consoles. We are living in cross-gen period, many games released this year are like that as well so its nothing weird. What is weird is BWs treatment towards old gen folks. Poor porting without fixed in patches and now this no DLC Bullshit? Clearly they just wanted make money out of us. Expecting us to buy same game twice just proves it.

I remember reading something about another game and company that did this, something similar anyways. A racer I believe, it invovled the old gen not recieving some textures the new gen players recieved packaged in a patch. I never thought BioWare would stoop to such tactics, but I was dead wrong.

 

It's ridiculous the old gen userbase was strung along this far, only to be cut short.

I've been reading some of the complaints about the technical issues, they were (apparently) caused by this latest patch, is this true? Sorry, my game isn't as updated regularly as I a unable to hook it up to the internet on a daily basis.

[SirMisterKitty]

Well, sure. But they did release it in the first place and collected something like $60. Cutting off DLC support, that's low. 

Not to mention some of us also purchased JoH. Although, fortunately that is offset with that save importer gizmo (I think). However, if I cannot upgrade, it feels as if I've wasted my money investing in a copy DA:I that I will never actually get to "finish". Assuming any future DLC concludes the Inquisitor's story.

[SirMisterKitty]

My mind is still boggled that he believes anyone who lives in a first world country automatically can afford to throw around a half a grand no matter the circumstance and I am not sure if he is insinuating that the OP should commit welfare fraud in order to purchase an expensive console or what. Bizarre, that post.

Agreed.

I'm not sure how anyone can and apply their financial situation to another's. I, personally, don't consider myself wretchedly poor, but I can't afford a $400 console system either.

"Insinuating that the OP should commit welfare fraud" <--- that was the most disturbing bit of the post. What rationale can... no, I just, sincerely hope he was being sarcastic... or something.

[Panda]

I remember reading something about another game and company that did this, something similar anyways. A racer I believe, it invovled the old gen not recieving some textures the new gen players recieved packaged in a patch. I never thought BioWare would stoop to such tactics, but I was dead wrong.

 

It's ridiculous the old gen userbase was strung along this far, only to be cut short.

I've been reading some of the complaints about the technical issues, they were (apparently) caused by this latest patch, is this true? Sorry, my game isn't as updated regularly as I a unable to hook it up to the internet on a daily basis.

 

Usually there is always some problems with patches often for many platforms so I don't know at this point if it's some kind of Ps3/Xbox360 problem or if many players have it or is it rare ^^;

[AresKeith]

Did this really need a new thread though?

 

My mind is still boggled that he believes anyone who lives in a first world country automatically can afford to throw around a half a grand no matter the circumstance and I am not sure if he is insinuating that the OP should commit welfare fraud in order to purchase an expensive console or what. Bizarre, that post.

 

From his post history I'd believe it

[panzerwzh]

Money grubbing never changed... charging customers for multiple times of the same contents will be the foundation of future financial report.