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[blahblahblah]

Not really the explanation is most likely going to be good as the explanations for Lazarus project and synthesis, very contrived and poorly written.

So as mass effect, FTL and biotics.

[In Exile]

So as mass effect, FTL and biotics.

 

Or asari mind reading. 'Cause seriously, that's just pure magic. 

[Drone223]

So as mass effect, FTL and biotics.

Those aren't poorly explained or written, eezo, biotics and mass effect technology have good enough explanations to be believable within the limitations of the ME lore, hence why people don't complain about them. LP and synthesis are both poorly written and explain which brought up plenty of complaints, its why those two things are refereed to as space magic.

[dreamgazer]

Or asari mind reading. 'Cause seriously, that's just pure magic.

Add the cipher and how it was made into that mix ...

[In Exile]

The Cipher itself could actually happen.

There's been talk for years now about how an implant that can imprint knowledge into someone's mind is theoretically possible.

 

No, the Cipher is complete nonsense gibberish space magic. The thing that's actually technically possible is mind-reading, but not in the way it's portrayed in ME. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No, the Cipher is complete nonsense gibberish space magic. The thing that's actually technically possible is mind-reading, but not in the way it's portrayed in ME. 

I was thinking of the Beacons when I wrote that. Those are theoretically possible. My apologies. 

[Han Shot First]

Not really the explanation is most likely going to be good as the explanations for Lazarus project and synthesis, very contrived and poorly written.

 

Maybe. Maybe not.

 

They certainly have options of getting the characters to Andromeda without it either being contrived or poorly written. 

[Drone223]

Maybe. Maybe not.

 

They certainly have options of getting the characters to Andromeda without it either being contrived or poorly written. 

Given how Lazarus project and synthesis exist I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[Boost32]

Just make it to be several years after the Reapers War, the MW species construct a big spaceship with Reaper Capital Ship reverse engineer that allows them to go to another galazy.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Just make it to be several years after the Reapers War, the MW species construct a big spaceship with Reaper Capital Ship reverse engineer that allows them to go to another galazy.

This is what I'm hoping if we are getting there via ark. 

[Dean_the_Young]

Those aren't poorly explained or written, eezo, biotics and mass effect technology have good enough explanations to be believable within the limitations of the ME lore, hence why people don't complain about them. LP and synthesis are both poorly written and explain which brought up plenty of complaints, its why those two things are refereed to as space magic.

 

The only distinction you've made between them is that you like one set and dislike another.

 

I mean, from the start mass effect fields in the Mass Effect lore pretend that they're following the conservation of energy... even as they try to argue that biotic singularities are powered by additional calorie intake of bigger meals.

 

That's, ahem, a rather fantastical take of physics with a sci-fi vaneer. Some might even call it 'magical.'

[Quarian Master Race]

The only distinction you've made between them is that you like one set and dislike another.

 

I mean, from the start mass effect fields in the Mass Effect lore pretend that they're following the conservation of energy... even as they try to argue that biotic singularities are powered by additional calorie intake of bigger meals.

 

That's, ahem, a rather fantastical take of physics with a sci-fi vaneer. Some might even call it 'magical.'

No, consuming lots of gatorade and granola bars totally gives you the ability to manipulate dark energy into producing 3000N force explosions every few seconds using only your mind.

[zac211]

Gonna use the first level to confirm Indoctrination theory to mess with everyone and then that will be followed by the canon ending to Shepards trilogy and start the journey to andromeda.

[Boost32]

That would defeat the entire purpose of having no set canon and going to another galaxy. If they have to address the endings then they may as well stay in the Milky Way. They aren't, so why would they?

Why? Its hundreds years late, the have can begin at the start of the voyage, and is a much better explanation than the Ark theory.
And we don't know if its because of the endings, might be because the MW can have a lot if different variables.

[Boost32]

A few hundred years won't wash away the endings. Is every living thing the galaxy a cyborg or not? If it is then the galaxy is completely different than it would have been otherwise.
Is Shepard controlling the Reapers to police the galaxy and advance technology even further? If not how has technology advanced so far so fast?
Are the Krogan cured of the genophage? If so, why aren't they the most populace race in the galaxy yet? If not, why haven't they gone to war with the Salarians, Turians and humans?
Are the Geth and/or the Quarians alive? Either way, both races will essentially have to be written out to accommodate the possibilities.
 
If the expedition begins after the end of ME3 it presents all of the same problems as staying in the Milky Way. Having the expedition begin before the end of ME3 allows them to write around all of the hurdles ME3 put in their way.

It will not matter, we are going to a new galaxy, we can have the codex to learn about it.

[Boost32]

We are going to a new galaxy. As in the people who would be impacted by the Crucible. You cannot just avoid talking about everyone being cyborgs, or Shepard being the Supreme Galactic Overlord, or the Krogans on board being capable of having 1,000 children, or the Quarians still being around, etc. These are things that cannot be relegated to codex entries and never talked about.

What Shepard being the overlord of the MW have to do to what happens in Andromeda?
If the Krogans can have or not 1000 childrens is irrelevant, they have their own ship according to the leak, thats a problem they will have to deal, not the PC.
Just say some Quarians went at the flotilla when it was destroyed, and after hundreds of years they should have a stable numbers.
And what change with systhesis? We don't know what it changes beyond giving everyone green eyes, so it can be handwaved.

To me you that can't deal with the endings.

[Boost32]

Leaving a galaxy where Reapers controlled by Commander Shepard doesn't warrant more than a codex entry? No one would have any thoughts on the status quo of the Milky Way?The Krogans numbers going out of control wouldn't have any impact outside of their own ship? You don't think a violent, war-like race would try to, I don't know, steal resources from other races to feed their children?A few Quarians can get to "stable numbers" is a few hundred years? Quarians don't breed like Krogan. If they did they could have retaken their homeworld from the Geth in a few generations.And what would change with synthesis? You don't think being half machine would change you? The entire point of synthesis is that it would make organic beings more like synthetic beings and synthetic beings more like organic beings. If all it amounted to was green eyes and glowy skin then it would never lead to peace between organics and synthetics in the Catalyst's eyes. The Catalyst pushed that solution because it merged synthetics with organics.I'm sorry, I don't speak gibberish. Could you try that again?

Its clear we have different views on the matter, so there is no need for us to continue.

OK I shall try again. To me its you that cant deal with the endings, not the writers.

[Heimdall]

Its clear we have different views on the matter, so there is no need for us to continue.

OK I shall try again. To me its you that cant deal with the endings, not the writers.

You seem to be asking them to deal with it by giving it a token nod and blithely ignore the far reaching consequences those endings imply.  The point of leaving before the Crucible blast is to avoid that type of token handwaving, which is pretty much the inevitable result of any scenario that places the departure after the endings.

[Boost32]

You seem to be asking them to deal with it by giving it a token nod and blithely ignore the far reaching consequences those endings imply.  The point of leaving before the Crucible blast is to avoid that type of token handwaving, which is pretty much the inevitable result of any scenario that places the departure after the endings.

I prefer the token handwave than the Ark theory explanation.

[NeonFlux117]

Who cares, it's just a game. Play it or don't. I wouldn't get to attatched to characters or a narrative.

Have you guys not learned anything since ME3s ending fiasco?

Don't worry about the plot or lore or narrative. We all know that during some point, as with ME2 and ME3. Established lore and narrative cohession will be sacrificed for game mechanics and "the rule of cool".

Just go with the flow, don't think about it so much.

[GaroTD]

My theory is that races of the Milky Way got really advanced due to the reaper technology so they could travel to Andromeda. Simple, easy and have potential to explain what happened after endings. For me waaaay better than whole ark thing.

[Boost32]

That doesn't even make any sense.

Then I'm sorry, I don't know how to word it better.

[GaroTD]

That's a detriment to development. The whole point of going to another galaxy is to avoid that.

 

Why can't people understand this?

They will avoid it but on the level when they won't have to actually SHOW us what happened but more like tell us about it. Make hints etc. They would make everybody happy.

[Boost32]

That's a detriment to development. The whole point of going to another galaxy is to avoid that.
 
Why can't people understand this?

Because it was never stated they want to avoid that, its you thats trying to enforce your view on the others.
You might br right, but thats still not confirmed.

Your wording isn't the problem, your logic is. Or your lack of logic, to be precise.

The only lack og logic here is why you want to be a annoying person.

[GaroTD]

Yea, why some people act like ark has been confirmed and it's canon? Actually I don't find this theory good, it would create more plot-holes and make people really angry.