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[Ahglock]

What wouldn't be dumb then AlanC9?  Personally I think it will be far more dumb to flat out ignore the endings or pick one ending as cannon.  Whitewashing the endings with a handful of comments here and there to tie in your import is a far better choice.  If it was setting wise just after they would have to make a cannon ending which is epic stupid.  Ignoring the endings entirely with a Ark that left before or whatever is almost as stupid.  The least stupid is placing it far in the future, maybe even in another Galaxy so you can import peoples games and what happened is side comments and codex entries kind of like what ME2 and ME3 did for most of your choices. Basically time and distance are about the only things that would allow them to let people import past games without picking a cannon ending.  And it seems they decided far future and far away.

[Sgt.Adam93]

How about an Odyssey-type story. There is an accident, you end up stuck in this strange new galaxy and you explore it as you try to find your way back home. As for how you would get to Andromeda, I've noticed that some people are leaning towards a wormhole, but I don't think that fits into the ME universe too well. I would think the only way to get there from here would be through a mass relay, a big one, like one that the Reapers would use to get back into dark space after each harvest.

[Wazzanut]

Does anyone else think ARK maybe an acronym for something else and were jumping the gun and being too literal about it being an actual Ark... Advanced Research K(something)?  And what if we used the Citadel as a mass relay... Jumpto dark space... Reapers must of had a connecting relay out there or else the jump wouldnt have been possible. If we used that then the journey across dark space would already be half complete... Finding a new galaxy, new worlds and bridging  the gap by building new mass relays could be half the mission of this new mass effect... 

[N7Jamaican]

Some say indoctrination, others wormhole.  I'd say Wormhole + Ark.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Does anyone else think ARK maybe an acronym for something else and were jumping the gun and being too literal about it being an actual Ark... Advanced Research K(something)?  And what if we used the Citadel as a mass relay... Jumpto dark space... Reapers must of had a connecting relay out there or else the jump wouldnt have been possible. If we used that then the journey across dark space would already be half complete... Finding a new galaxy, new worlds and bridging  the gap by building new mass relays could be half the mission of this new mass effect... 

Considering the patch has it as A.R.K.C.O.N Pathfinder Initiative, I think it is just an acronym. 

And yeah, I think we will use the Citadel Relay to jump to wherever it leads, whether it be Dark Space or maybe even Andromeda or a Mass Relay that goes to Andromeda's Citadel. 

[Wazzanut]

Im playing catch-up with alot of the info out there... Its hard to see the real stuff from whats being made up by people... Its about time we got some solid intel on the game..

[AlanC9]

What wouldn't be dumb then AlanC9? Personally I think it will be far more dumb to flat out ignore the endings or pick one ending as cannon. Whitewashing the endings with a handful of comments here and there to tie in your import is a far better choice. If it was setting wise just after they would have to make a cannon ending which is epic stupid. Ignoring the endings entirely with a Ark that left before or whatever is almost as stupid. The least stupid is placing it far in the future, maybe even in another Galaxy so you can import peoples games and what happened is side comments and codex entries kind of like what ME2 and ME3 did for most of your choices. Basically time and distance are about the only things that would allow them to let people import past games without picking a cannon ending. And it seems they decided far future and far away.

Just to be clear about stuff, "dumb" in my post wasn't a value judgement of your idea. It was an estimate of how well it would have gone over if it had been implemented. The value judgement part was "incredibly lame and awful." I'm not even sure what the supposed advantages of your ideas are. If the cost of doing a save import is that choices are meaningless, what's the benefit of a save import?

In contrast, the current plan has real advantages. All the existing choices were real and had real consequences. The downside, of course, is that we don't get to see any of the choices play out, but we don't get that with your plan either.

[Ahriman]

How about an Odyssey-type story. You end up in this strange new galaxy by accident and you explore it as you try to find your way back home. As for how you would get to Andromeda, I've noticed that some people are leaning towards a wormhole, but I don't think that fits into the ME universe too well. I would think the only way to get there from here would be through a mass relay, a big one, like one that the Reapers would use to get back into dark space after each harvest.

And how exactly all races including female krogans and salarains will get into this accident?

Does anyone else think ARK maybe an acronym for something else and were jumping the gun and being too literal about it being an actual Ark...

It probably is, but the pun is intentional.

 

And what if we used the Citadel as a mass relay... Jumpto dark space... Reapers must of had a connecting relay out there or else the jump wouldnt have been possible. If we used that then the journey across dark space would already be half complete

Using reaper relays...won't solve RGB... Will it...?

[shodiswe]

I'm not sure the alliance and council need to have been involved at all.  
 
Have some paranoid head of a mega company buy into Shepards post ME ramblings about mystery 'reapers'... he spends ME2 getting the Ark built in secret with private money.  Arrival DLC hits the timeline and the ark launches with whomever the company decides is worth a spot, either paid for or because of social 'worth'.  
 
By having the ark leave before ME3 even starts we don't have to deal with all the problems ME3 throws up.

We had that Volus Billionaire who was digging out a whole planet looking for answers to the Reaper problem, he started long Before the invasion. He and others could have been involved, but I think it was the council. Then again, Volus generaly do prefer running or making a deal to fighting.

[Sgt.Adam93]

Perhaps a good old-fashioned exploration/colonization mission that goes horribly wrong.

[StealthGamer92]

I belive they'll wind up having a far future setting to handwave technolegy by saying it "progressed with time and the reaper tech from the war they were able to reverse engineer" plus this ARKON be some kind of special exploration unit, possibly an experimental one that is actually in contact with Civilized space. And to those who'll bring up green circuitry as a reason keeping in contact with the Milky Way won't work, well noone has ever said that the visible effect's of the Synthesis ending will be permanent but your assumption's.

[Dantriges]

There´s a bit more to Synthesis than just glowing green.

[StealthGamer92]

Ther´s a bit more t Synthesis than just glowing green.

Noone really know's as it's never adequately explained.

[Killroy]

Noone really know's as it's never adequately explained.

So every living thing in the galaxy being technorganic would just add up to everything being the same as always?

[DarthSliver]

So every living thing in the galaxy being technorganic would just add up to everything being the same as always?

 

Well honestly thats how you kill the ending choice but if that was so than I don't think we would need to go to Andromeda so that makes me think and many others that they are trying to avoid the endings from ME3 being touch. But killing the ending choices that way would be better than leaving it hanging, ME3 endings are a bloody mess better to just bleach it and move on lol. 

 

Just remember Ark Theory is here for the same reason why IT Theory became so large during the fallout of the ME3 endings, the only difference is Ark Theory escapes the ME3 endings altogether. 

[StealthGamer92]

So every living thing in the galaxy being technorganic would just add up to everything being the same as always?

How does anyone know it wouldn't? I'm looking for fact's not assumption's as an answer.

[Spectr61]

Does anyone else think ARK maybe an acronym for something else and were jumping the gun and being too literal about it being an actual Ark... Advanced Research K(something)?  And what if we used the Citadel as a mass relay... Jumpto dark space... Reapers must of had a connecting relay out there or else the jump wouldnt have been possible. If we used that then the journey across dark space would already be half complete... Finding a new galaxy, new worlds and bridging  the gap by building new mass relays could be half the mission of this new mass effect...

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[Killroy]

How does anyone know it wouldn't? I'm looking for fact's not assumption's as an answer.

You can literally see technology in people's bodies and in flora. And the entire point of synthesis is to make organics more like machines and machines more like organics. If it didn't change anything then nothing would change, making it entirely pointless. The Catalyst wouldn't endorse a solution that changed nothing.

[StealthGamer92]

You can literally see technology in people's bodies and in flora. And the entire point of synthesis is to make organics more like machines and machines more like organics. If it didn't change anything then nothing would change, making it entirely pointless. The Catalyst wouldn't endorse a solution that changed nothing.

You the player were given a visual represntation of the change you made...wow so easily explained away logically as we're never shown if other's noticed the "circuitry" we were shown. I don't care what happen's but being narow minded about the great writing of ME3's ending and even the presentation of EC is the wrong way to go. The writer's may have made a crap resolution, but in doing so left way's to get around any choice to return to the MW. The EC is still vague as hell on key issues that most of us argue about such as this one. They have left loop hole's in ME3's story stop ignoring it and deal with it, as anyone could be right as it is now as all we do is assume certain thing's as fact's that really aren't. I don't even propose the cicuitry mot being visible as fact, but as completely possible with the ending's we were given.

[Killroy]

You the player were given a visual represntation of the change you made...wow so easily explained away logically as we're never shown if other's noticed the "circuitry" we were shown.

Video games are a visual medium. Unless you have some evidence that what we saw is not representative of BioWare's vision/intent then your argument has no merit.

I don't care what happen's but being narow minded about the great writing of ME3's ending and even the presentation of EC is the wrong way to go. The writer's may have made a crap resolution, but in doing so left way's to get around any choice to return to the MW. The EC is still vague as hell on key issues that most of us argue about such as this one. They have left loop hole's in ME3's story stop ignoring it and deal with it, as anyone could be right as it is now as all we do is assume certain thing's as fact's that really aren't. I don't even propose the cicuitry mot being visible as fact, but as completely possible with the ending's we were given.

The entire point of synthesis is that it makes organics more like synthetics and synthetics more like organics. There is no counter argument to this fact. Sure, they could employ lazy, contradictory writing to get around it, but the same could be said for any plot point. That's not an argument.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You can literally see technology in people's bodies and in flora. And the entire point of synthesis is to make organics more like machines and machines more like organics. If it didn't change anything then nothing would change, making it entirely pointless. The Catalyst wouldn't endorse a solution that changed nothing.

Something like Synthesis could always occur between the Reaper War and Andromeda. Maybe everyone who goes gets cybernetic enhancements that do what Synthesis does, to increase their efficiency.