I'm not sure the alliance and council need to have been involved at all.
Have some paranoid head of a mega company buy into Shepards post ME ramblings about mystery 'reapers'... he spends ME2 getting the Ark built in secret with private money. Arrival DLC hits the timeline and the ark launches with whomever the company decides is worth a spot, either paid for or because of social 'worth'.
By having the ark leave before ME3 even starts we don't have to deal with all the problems ME3 throws up.
Shepard's the "tip of the spear" in saving the galaxy. S/he not knowing about this kind of initiative is a little dubious.
Yes, there's no reason to fear the guy who spends a hell of a lot of time around Reaper tech will be indoctrinated and spill the beans to the worst people machines possible.
I'm not sure the alliance and council need to have been involved at all.
Have some paranoid head of a mega company buy into Shepards post ME ramblings about mystery 'reapers'... he spends ME2 getting the Ark built in secret with private money. Arrival DLC hits the timeline and the ark launches with whomever the company decides is worth a spot, either paid for or because of social 'worth'.
By having the ark leave before ME3 even starts we don't have to deal with all the problems ME3 throws up.
Plus this.
I would prefer the flotilla that goes to Andromeda to use the Citadel Relay which to their surprise takes them to a Citadel in Andromeda.
I'm not sure the alliance and council need to have been involved at all.
Have some paranoid head of a mega company buy into Shepards post ME ramblings about mystery 'reapers'... he spends ME2 getting the Ark built in secret with private money. Arrival DLC hits the timeline and the ark launches with whomever the company decides is worth a spot, either paid for or because of social 'worth'.
By having the ark leave before ME3 even starts we don't have to deal with all the problems ME3 throws up.
Entire species can't even build such a thing by themselves, so how would a single company?
You do realize this would mean there would be Reapers in Andromeda, right? If there's a relay, then they built it there, which means they can get there if they want to.
I mean, I'm all for Reapers, so I wouldn't mind.
Well, it means they would have been there at least. The vanguard is probably still there. But the rest could be in the Milky Way reaping.
But yeah, I'm all for Reapers being an intergalactic threat. Makes them feel like better villains and our success against them have more impact.
Entire species can't even build such a thing by themselves, so how would a single company?
Your first statement is a baseless assumption, as far as I can tell.
People don't seem to be realizing the Reapers are the worst kept secret ever. Half the galaxy knew about them even before the first ME (hyperbole, but you get my point). It only might have taken a few resourceful parties, and even in our actual planet, day and age, governments are not necessarily the most powerful entities around. Otherwise we wouldn't have an actual historical event named something as ridiculous as 'Banana Wars'.
Yes, there's no reason to fear the guy who spends a hell of a lot of time around Reaper tech will be indoctrinated and spill the beans to the worst
peoplemachines possible.
Unless you've developed indoctrination detection devices, nobody's safe anyway. Anyone working on Noah's Space Ark could be aligned with the Reapers.
Your first statement is a baseless assumption, as far as I can tell.
People don't seem to be realizing the Reapers are the worst kept secret ever. Half the galaxy knew about them even before the first ME (hyperbole, but you get my point). It only might have taken a few resourceful parties, and even in our actual planet, day and age, governments are not necessarily the most powerful entities around. Otherwise we wouldn't have an actual historical event named something as ridiculous as 'Banana Wars'.
Not really. The lore states that no species in our cycle have been able to crack how to surpass the limitations in our technology that would need to be in order for the sojourn to Andromeda. Even the Protheans, who were more advanced that us, weren't able to.
The Great Emu War begs to differ. 
Especially since Shep's scrounging every resource, scientist, warship, and Prothean artifact in the galaxy to get sh-stuff done.
Except Shepard isn't doing that. Shepard is finding things in the different sectors and clusters by overhearing conversations and other ridiculous mechanisms basically stumbling upon resources that were isolated by the war which now become war assets. This doesn't mean that those are the sum total of all the scientists in the entire asari republic for example. Or all of the human scientists, or all of the Turian scientists, or all of the Salarian scientists.
Shepard also is spending time finding things like The Pillars of Strength which happened to be one of the most profound moments of the game. So moving when the Butcher of Torfan received absolution from the Batarian Priest.
It seems that some players think Shepard needed to be omniscient and omnipresent. Hell, Shepard was almost omnipotent. Hence, The Shepard. You're a legend, and there's a religion formed about you after the story. What more do you want? Wasn't that enough of a power trip?
It seems that some players think Shepard needed to be omniscient and omnipresent.
Except Shepard isn't doing that. Shepard is finding things in the different sectors and clusters by overhearing conversations and other ridiculous mechanisms basically stumbling upon resources that were isolated by the war which now become war assets. This doesn't mean that those are the sum total of all the scientists in the entire asari republic for example. Or all of the human scientists, or all of the Turian scientists, or all of the Salarian scientists.
Well, yeah, but if THe SHepard doesn't do all that it's a pretty cr*ppy Crucible that gets built
It's a big galaxy. Huge galaxy. There is so much empty space. We never even stumbled upon where they were building the crucible, and we knew they were building it.
Even Jacob Taylor saw the Crucible.
It's a big galaxy. Huge galaxy. There is so much empty space. We never even stumbled upon where they were building the crucible, and we knew they were building it.
Even Jacob Taylor saw the Crucible.
Not a risk I'd be willing to take when there's a cavalier individual running around the galaxy doing this for their betterment.
HEY, OVER HERE.
How is Bioware going to improve themselves if their allowed to continue using contrived plot devices? They need to be called out on it if they want to improve their writing.
Shepard's the "tip of the spear" in saving the galaxy. S/he not knowing about this kind of initiative is a little dubious.
Shepard should also know the location of the ark, so as not to direct attention there.
Why would anyone tell Shepard about the Ark? S/he was a Cerberus operative and has been exposed to more Reapers than anyone. Telling Shepard about the Ark is like telling a toddler about your delicious cake on the counter. Sure, the toddler might not eat that cake and make a mess, but why take the chance when there's literally no upside?
Because some explanation for why resources are being diverted from the construction of the Crucible would be needed, something the Shadow Broker is tracking. Either way, Shepard's going to find out.
That is some of the most backward logic I've ever seen in text form. How would Shepard direct attention to something s/he doesn't know exists?
As soon as Shepard draws attention to a system, as pointed out above (Reaper Alertness), the Reapers are there and reaping.
Do that with the ark system, and you're screwed.
How do you avoid that? Tell Shepard where it's at so they don't make the mistake.
That ship has already sailed. The sheer stupidity of ME3 ensured that any continuation of the franchise had to be A$$pull City. The best we can hope for is everything but the premise of our trip to Andromeda being well written.
It won't, if Bioware continues to resort to contrived plot points they'll just end up making the mistakes again and again.
I wouldn't be surprised if Shepard had an idea that there might be a plan to leave the galaxy if the crucible failed even if she/he never knew of a plan. She/he is dealing with getting resources for the crucible, fighting Cerberus and the reapers
At first I've hated the Ark Theory.. Now, it just seems more believeable.
Harry Truman wasn't briefed on the Manhattan Project until he assumed the presidency. While Vice President of the United States he did not know that his country was developing a nuclear weapon. In fact in 1943 Truman's senatorial investigation into war production expenditures uncovered expenditures linked to a suspicious factory. The plant was linked to the Manhattan Project, but Truman hadn't even heard of the Manhattan Project. When he asked questions about the factory he received a stern warning from FDR's secretary of war not to inquire further.
On that note I don't find Shepard not being briefed on an ark project to be an issue. He's quite a few steps down the ladder than Truman was.
I rather dislike the idea that going to Andromeda is the response to any eminent threat that could destroy everyone in the Milky Way. The tone that would be conjured by this whole expedition at least believing its the last hope of that galactic community seems like such an uninviting downer.
What I would prefer is this venture being the effect of continued technological development that allows those of the Milky Way to reach Andromeda and a communal desire for exploration that spurs it forward. Which is a less horrifying way of saying that I hope the reason is just unashamed colonialism. "Yeehaw! They're gonna acclimate to our intruding existence, culture and Johnny Cash or we'll kill 'em with advanced technology and foreign disease. Here, take this gun and start exploiting native peoples and their planets. Hi-ho space manifest destiny!"
Harry Truman wasn't briefed on the Manhattan Project until he assumed the presidency. While Vice President of the United States he did not know that his country was developing a nuclear weapon. In fact in 1943 Truman's senatorial investigation into war production expenditures uncovered expenditures linked to a suspicious factory. The plant was linked to the Manhattan Project, but Truman hadn't even heard of the Manhattan Project. When he asked questions about the factory he received a stern warning from FDR's secretary of war not to inquire further.
On that note I don't find Shepard not being briefed on an ark project to be an issue. He's quite a few steps down the ladder than Truman was.
Eh, I think giving a heads-up to the person who's tracking resources and honking their horn across the entire galaxy wouldn't be a bad thing.
While I understand and appreciate the logic behind your comparison, I also think the caliber of the two situations is a bit different.
I know... we're comparing realism with video game logic which is why any realistic scenario will utterly fail in a video game.
The obvious problem with that reason is that you lose all the benefits of moving the setting, while still paying all the costs for moving the setting.
Yep. And that's why there is probably a zero percent chance that Bioware will go that route and like close to a 100% chance they will go the ark route in my opinion.
Besides, in their trailer the work ARK is in big and easily readable letters on the "destination" screen, and the player belongs to an "ARKCON" organization.
I mean, come on. It's obvious which path Bioware is taking.
In a way, but there's no telling when said "ark" would be leaving, and under what circumstances. Not quite so obvious.
On another note, I really don't care for the continuation of the religious allusion.
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