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[Piffle]

In light of the glitched lobbies, I thought I'd post this so people who are legitimately leveling don't get falsely accused. Fair warning: you need be somewhat promoted and very organized for this run to succeed. That said, failed runs still generate a good amount of experience, depending on how far you get.

 

Because of the double XP weekend, you can get from level 1 to level 20 from one perilous FC run. For my friends and I, it takes an average of 30 mins. (Even without the double XP, you can still gain a lot of levels.)

 

To maximize your XP, everyone needs to generate the maximum amount of damage and support XP they can.

 

For damage, this means that everyone has to try tagging all targets with at least one auto-attack. If you OHKO targets, you downgrade your weapon until you can't.

 

For support, this means you barrier/fear/freeze/taunt. If you freeze/fear a target, make sure you do not finish the kill.

 

Because we are doing 1 to 20 in one round, there are only 3 characters that can generate good support XP from the get go: Keeper, Virtuoso and Necromancer.

 

In this instance, we will talk about the 4 virtuoso run: basically everyone stays together, spams barrier so that it never depletes and auto-attacks all the targets. On wave 5, do not go for the dragon; kill RTC last so you get every spawn.

 

It's simple, tedious AF, but 1-20 in 30 minutes. 

 

Edit: Once again, this is how to get from level 1 to level 20 in ONE FC PERILOUS RUN without cheating.

[Johnsen1972]

Anyone with 30 promotion+ in each class can do perilous FC runs with level 1 chars, No need to do a virtuoso run, Take a level 1 isabela, avaar, keeper and legionaire instead. 

[Wavebend]

Anyone with 30 promotion+ in each class can do perilous FC runs with level 1 chars, No need to do a virtuoso run, Take a level 1 isabela, avaar, keeper and legionaire instead. 

 

The point of doing 4 virtuoso runs is to generate as much support XP as possible. Not sure a duelist / avvar would do the same..

[Johnsen1972]

ah ok

[Drasca]

The point of doing 4 virtuoso runs is to generate as much support XP as possible. Not sure a duelist / avvar would do the same..

 

But an Alchemist might! Anyone know if ele mines provide support now? Maaaaybe.

 

Fair warning: you need be somewhat promoted and very organized for this run to succeed.

 

It's simple, tedious AF, but 1-20 in 30 minutes. 

 

Its mostly gear for speed and coordination to survive in order to do NM FC. Can do the same in one NM FC run, though it'll take potentially longer, it'll have the chance to drop Hakkon weapons.

 

That said, 30 minutes will do 3x Perilous runs on old maps for more gold per time and about as much xp / time, with less xp overflow, less coordination effort and more abilities used, and imo way more fun.

[Piffle]

Its mostly gear for speed and coordination to survive in order to do NM FC. Can do the same in one NM FC run, though it'll take potentially longer, it'll have the chance to drop Hakkon weapons.

 

That said, 30 minutes will do 3x Perilous runs on old maps for more gold per time and about as much xp / time, with less xp overflow, less coordination effort and more abilities used, and imo way more fun.

 

You can't do NM runs at level 1.

 

It's 30 minutes includes map loading in and loading out. 3x peri runs on old maps will need 5 more minutes to load in, load out, spec points, etc.

 

This is straight level 1, start game, get to 20, promote, new game: 2 willpower per hour.

[tempest238]

This is straight level 1, start game, get to 20, promote, new game: 2 willpower per hour.

Awesome idea. The only problem with that tho. Not everybody wants to play a mage. Let alone spend a couple of hours doing so on the same toon. I for one enjoy playing with all but one or 2 classes. But I would rather focus on rolling a rogue class over.

 

To each their own. I'll have to give that perilous FC a try tomorrow.

[Drasca]

You can't do NM runs at level 1.

 

Says you.

 

Of course let's put aside the idea of doing an operation complete. Even if that's not the case, speedy killing means faster leveling and xp per time, and thus faster leveling and even faster xp per time. I wouldn't even have to complete the op, just kill a bunch of enemies and level up fast.

 

Last I checked even completing part of FC NM zone 1 achieved several levels, and completing the whole thing got to around level 12 depending on context.

 

 

3x peri runs on old maps will need 5 more minutes to load in, load out, spec points, etc.

 

Depends on players. Assuming very organized, it doesn't take that long. Of course most players aren't very organized to begin with, so they don't get the 30 minute 1-20 FC run either.

 

On top of that 2 willpower is proven not as appealing as 2 cunning per hour given the end game items and weapon upgrades all revolve around critical bonus damage.

 

I concede your methodology as tedious and because of that I contend it won't be used very often, and that other methodologies with similar rewards are more appealing.

[Piffle]

Awesome idea. The only problem with that tho. Not everybody wants to play a mage. Let alone spend a couple of hours doing so on the same toon. I for one enjoy playing with all but one or 2 classes. But I would rather focus on rolling a rogue class over.

 

To each their own. I'll have to give that perilous FC a try tomorrow.

 

That's why I said it's tedious AF (as f***). This is for power grinding willpower/prestige without cheating.

[Pork]

You can't do NM runs at level 1.

Maybe you cant but i certainly can and have with team willing to carry me. And I have terrible stats compared to you.

[JiaJM98]

It's a good idea, and have tried that before. The thing is, you can do the same for every day of the year, but this weekend is double xp so i just simply want to get my cunning up since I hate playing rogue so much.

 

But thanks for sharing that to everyone though.

[kmeeg]

Maybe you cant but i certainly can and have with team willing to carry me. And I have terrible stats compared to you.

 

She obviously meant a full lv.1 team.

 

And I pretty sure that she easily can get a team to carry her as lv.1 (if needed) so wtf does her stats have to do with this?

[JiaJM98]

Well, her stats are high enough for her to tank perilous boss with lv1 virtuoso... whilst everyone else can just kill off all the spawns quite comfortably. 

[Drasca]

Well, her stats are high enough for her to tank perilous boss with lv1 virtuoso... whilst everyone else can just kill off all the spawns quite comfortably. 

 

Absolutely all the bosses can be kited around the map once aggro'ed and the player runs in large circles.

 

Also, anyone on any class can tank a perilous boss with resist pots + rock armor long enough for allies to kill the boss. It is definitely easier with high stats and gear, but it really isn't that hard overall.

 

Not that Piffle would use these at level 1 seriously but other players can: 1H warriors have shield wall, in addition to barrier from Keeper/Virtuoso. VC can also be frozen by Ele + Necro WG.

 

It is definitely easier for high promote players, but definitely possible for other players + teamwork.

[Cirvante]

Maybe you cant but i certainly can and have with team willing to carry me. And I have terrible stats compared to you.

 

I'm pretty sure Pifffle meant a full team of lvl 1 players.

[The Great Bob]

It's simple, tedious AF, but 1-20 in 30 minutes. 

 

I have a question and I don't mean to sound rude but why do you continue to grind prestige or promotions if you are finding it so tedious? Apart from the whole "epeen" thing obviously. Just seems incredibly pointless to me.

[Kenny Bania]

I have a question and I don't mean to sound rude but why do you continue to grind prestige or promotions if you are finding it so tedious? Apart from the whole "epeen" thing obviously. Just seems incredibly pointless to me.

 

Leaderboard ranks yo.

[The Great Bob]

Leaderboard ranks yo.

 

Doesn't that come under a subsection of epeen? People have completed Heartbreaker with much lower prestige in the beta as far as I'm aware. Why grind runs that take 30min if you aren't enjoying it. It's a game, you're playing it to have fun surely?

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Doesn't that come under a subsection of epeen? People have completed Heartbreaker with much lower prestige in the beta as far as I'm aware. Why grind runs that take 30min if you aren't enjoying it. It's a game, you're playing it to have fun surely?

Maybe Piffle has fun grinding promotions, not everyone is the same

[The Great Bob]

Maybe Piffle has fun grinding promotions, not everyone is the same

 

Except its clearly stated that its "tedious as fudge" in the OP.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Except its clearly stated that its "tedious as fudge" in the OP.

Sometime tedius is needed, clear the mind

[Piffle]

Doesn't that come under a subsection of epeen? People have completed Heartbreaker with much lower prestige in the beta as far as I'm aware. Why grind runs that take 30min if you aren't enjoying it. It's a game, you're playing it to have fun surely?

 

The run is tedious because most people find playing level 1 characters tedious, or at least I do anyways.  Since you are getting to 20 in one round, you are playing nothing but level 1 characters.

 

I posted this so that people know you CAN legitimately get from level 1 to level 20 in one FC perilous run without cheating. (I think I'm starting to sound like a broken record here...). With all the cheating accusations being thrown around, hopefully this will prevent some false ones.

 

I only mentioned my average clear time to give some empirical data. Obviously, YMMV depending on the number of promotions you and your teammates have. I am not sure where in the post I implied that I do this all the time....

 

I think your question is rhetorical and I doubt anyone else here cares why I play, so I'm not going to answer it. If I am wrong and you are sincere, PM me. You can tell me why you play, I will tell you my gaming motivations, it will be the start of a beautiful friendship 

[Piffle]

Leaderboard ranks yo.

 

If I could opt out of the board of shame right now, I would. God, the amount of drama one number can cause. You have too little, people call you a noob and won't play with you. You have too many, people say you have e-peen issues. honestly 

[Gya]

If I could opt out of the board of shame right now, I would. God, the amount of drama one number can cause. You have too little, people call you a noob and won't play with you. You have too many, people say you have e-peen issues. honestly

Well, in the same way that people who aren't bothered with promotions don't care about people who care about the leaderboard, people who care about the leaderboard shouldn't care about people who don't care about the leaderboards.

Once, when I was trapped in a stupidly confusing sentence, I ate lots of mushrooms.

[Dekibra]

Well, in the same way that people who aren't bothered with promotions don't care about people who care about the leaderboard, people who care about the leaderboard shouldn't care about people who don't care about the leaderboards.

 

 that's a lot of caring ^^