He is living happily ever after with my Shepard in the milky way. Leave them be lol
Kaidan in Adromeda? Thoughts?
#26
Posté 18 juillet 2015 - 11:50
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#27
Posté 18 juillet 2015 - 11:58
It depends on how I feel during my playthrough. But I feel like he's better than Ashley.
Same. That's why he gets a somewhat honourable death on Virmire, while Ashley gets a bullet for not trusting Shepard.
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#28
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 12:00
#29
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 12:05
Honestly don't get the hate for this guy. Not a personal favourite, but his character is practically the definition of inoffensive.
That's kinda what irks me about him, he is literally Captain Generic.
I dunno. I'd rather a character I either love or hate than someone who simply exists, blob-like, on my glorious ship.
#30
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 12:43
Personally I usually rescued Kaiden for a slew of reasons, both practical and in-character. But I still have to admit it's pretty hard to rationalise the return of someone from the destruction of Virmire.
Unless what you instead have is the Virmire Survivor, in which case I still think that wouldn't be wise. Due to both Ash and Kaiden filling the same roles, they ended up being relatively flat props. Their dialogue differed, but their actions were all identical, robbing them of individuality. It wouldn't really work unless Bioware were willing to make practically two different games in one.
Plus, I think ME:A is supposed to be far removed from Shepherd and their legacy, so I imagine this includes their inner circle also. We may see some of the supporting characters (Mission Temporaries, or maybe That One Guy) but not an actual (ex-)squadmate.
#31
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 05:09
Nope, unless they want to include a cameo of a human Spectre.
I prefer Andromeda to be a stand alone.. and I don't want a series of small cameo appearances...
and I like Kaidan even if he's generic. Shepard is amazing on her own, but she need someone normal in her insane world. Kaidan is appealing because he doesn't need to be a headcase or a sadist or a racist or filled with angst or angry at the world just to be 'interesting'.
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#32
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 05:54
I hope they don't have any returning Characters.
#33
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 06:04
Meh, this 'thoughts' thread only makes 4/10. No offense, but nobody likes Kaidan (although nobody like Ashley one bit more).
I do.
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#34
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 06:42
He's dead, Jim.
Kaidan might be dead, but you just know that his reinforced adamantium pompadour survived that nuclear blast.
"Alenko memorial wig" or hairstyle option for Andromeda DLC.
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#35
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 06:55
I thank her for her service

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#36
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 07:04
I don't really prefer Ash or Kaidan as characters (though I prefer the former in combat more in ME3). I like them both well enough. First playthorugh Kaidan drew the short straw because I figured only an idiot would have some random grunt arm a nuclear bomb instead of using a guy with tech training, then Ash was lucky enough to have the salarians also with her.
It becomes moot when you realize that apparently Alliance basic infantry training includes WMD software circuitry courses or something.
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#37
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 07:05
Kaidan died on Vrmire in my only complete Trilogy playthrough
so no
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#38
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 07:22
He has always survived Virmire in my playthroughs....
Just to get shot in ME3
#39
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 07:40
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#40
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 10:17
I'll just say what I said earlier in the Ashley thread:
Aside from the fact that this is set in a "place and time far removed from the events of Shepard," and that we'll be unlikely to see any returning characters as squadmates, pretty much everyone but Liara and Grunt would likely be dead of at least old age by now. Wrex was an old Krogan in ME1. Maybe Samara is hanging in there, but she was in her Matriarch phase of her life.
Also, with the exception of Leliana, BioWare usually avoids bringing characters that could be dead back in later games.
#41
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 11:09
Same thing as every other returning companion cameo. No.
Thats tacky and corny and cheesy.
Christ, do you people really want a new game or just another Citadel DLC?
#42
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 11:10
It depends on how I feel during my playthrough. But I feel like he's better than Ashley.
It's kind of ironic, really. Gameplay wise, he is one the best squadmates in the entire trilogy, whereas Ash is among the worst. ![]()
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#43
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 11:13
I am people, and I want a new game. I'm okay with a few cameos in Dragon Age, since it's been a grand total of ~11 years in-game time on the same continent between the three games. In ME:A, well, it's probably at least a couple of hundred years and an entire galaxy away from a trilogy the devs consider finished.
So I suppose it depends upon the series and what exactly posters are asking for. Here, well, again, we might see Liara in a cameo (put down the pitchforks, it's a neutral statement.) but the squadmates with the more human lifespan, or the ones that could have died? No.
#44
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 11:29
It's kind of ironic, really. Gameplay wise, he is one the best squadmates in the entire trilogy, whereas Ash is among the worst.
Ashley was pretty great in ME1, I thought. In ME3 though, her big weakness is the irritatingly forever-broken marksman ability, which I always leave blank for obvious reasons. But in ME3, it didn't even matter to me much. I didn't find either to be immensely useful compared to the rest. The only thing that makes me like Ashley a bit more is that I like that she's the only other companion that can use sniper rifles and has disruptor ammo. I don't really care about Kaidan's biotics, since Liara remains superior than him at this.
#45
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 11:32
I'm kinda cold. My decision in ME1 comes down to: Who will help balance my squad the best come ME3? If I'm playing a biotic or an infiltrator, Ashley makes it off Virmire since she's pretty handy outside of the broken Marksman ability in ME3. I also just kinda like her a little more than James, even though they are both soliders. I thought she had great character development, despite my grumbles about her art redesign.
If I'm playing a solider or a vanguard, then Kaidan survives. I don't start the Kaidan romance if I intend to leave him on Virmire. I like both characters, but if they aren't very useful to me in ME3 for my class, then they hug the nuke.
#46
Posté 19 juillet 2015 - 11:43
I'm kinda cold. My decision in ME1 comes down to: Who will help balance my squad the best come ME3? If I'm playing a biotic or an infiltrator, Ashley makes it off Virmire since she's pretty handy outside of the broken Marksman ability in ME3. I also just kinda like her a little more than James, even though they are both soliders. I thought she had great character development, despite my grumbles about her art redesign.
If I'm playing a solider or a vanguard, then Kaidan survives. I don't start the Kaidan romance if I intend to leave him on Virmire. I like both characters, but if they aren't very useful to me in ME3 for my class, then they hug the nuke.
For me, it really came down to who I thought made more sense to man the bomb, and who makes more sense to abandon. I always abandon the bomb, and Kaidan makes the most sense to oversee it, so he's an unfortunate victim of my zany logic.
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#47
Posté 20 juillet 2015 - 12:33
Ashley was pretty great in ME1, I thought. In ME3 though, her big weakness is the irritatingly forever-broken marksman ability, which I always leave blank for obvious reasons. But in ME3, it didn't even matter to me much. I didn't find either to be immensely useful compared to the rest. The only thing that makes me like Ashley a bit more is that I like that she's the only other companion that can use sniper rifles and has disruptor ammo. I don't really care about Kaidan's biotics, since Liara remains superior than him at this.
In ME1 Ashley tends to suffer from "someone else can do this better." She's supposed to be a tank, however barrier's absurd potential and Wrex's innate korgan healing make him a better choice. Garrus fills her sniper role arguably better, and like Wrex, brings a versatility Ash sorely lacks. Biotics are so comically broken in ME1 that Liara turns into a goddess, while Lift makes Kaidan a close second. Tali gets by due to the abundance of Geth and AI Hacking.
That said, I play on Hardcore/Insanity. So the little imbalances really start to show. Ash isn't bad per se. She just doesn't bring enough to the table, imo.
ME3 does make her better, though James kind of makes both feel redundant. Kaidan feels more useful because he brings so much versatility.
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#48
Posté 20 juillet 2015 - 03:29
Ashley was pretty great in ME1, I thought. In ME3 though, her big weakness is the irritatingly forever-broken marksman ability, which I always leave blank for obvious reasons. But in ME3, it didn't even matter to me much. I didn't find either to be immensely useful compared to the rest. The only thing that makes me like Ashley a bit more is that I like that she's the only other companion that can use sniper rifles and has disruptor ammo. I don't really care about Kaidan's biotics, since Liara remains superior than him at this.
Kaidan's reave is by far the most versatile ability ever (as both primer and detonator) and it leech health so with it and his Barrier, he could survive anything. With mooks, he could prime with Cryo blast and detonate with Overload. Liara is too squishy to be useful. I only use her Wrap exclusively but it wasn't the same as Reave, Singularity is only useful for mooks but near useless as Stasis and Warp Ammo (which only good in ME2). As for Ash, I don't care for Disruptor Ammo but I have Ashley Marksman fix and her Inferno Grenade and Concussion Shot made her more useful than Garrus.
In ME1, Ashley is superior than Garrus as a sniper. Normally, I'm the one who do the sniping and she's good as backup. Her heavy armor give her some added protection while Garrus is limited by his medium armoring (he's a turian with carapaces?!).
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#49
Posté 20 juillet 2015 - 03:39
For me, it really came down to who I thought made more sense to man the bomb, and who makes more sense to abandon. I always abandon the bomb, and Kaidan makes the most sense to oversee it, so he's an unfortunate victim of my zany logic.
Yeah, Kaidan made a lot more sense in terms of the story to have to set up the bomb, since Sentinels are also trained to be techies, so he'd have been more effective at the task and known how to deal with anything should it have gone wrong. That it even works is remarkable and a testament to Salarian ingenuity, since the weapon was their ship's drive core they managed to Macgyver into a bomb on the fly.
Realistically, it'd have been a better choice to leave Ashley behind to guard the people setting up the actual bomb, since she's be far more effective to keep the bombsite secure rather than prime it and defend at the same time.
If they were to change one thing about the scenario, I'd have kept one of the three Salarians teams behind at the bomb site to prime the bomb, the decision was instead who to leave behind to either help rig the bomb (Kaidan) or help defend the team (Ash). Then have the site be overrun by Geth leaving them as the only survivor and forced to manually detonate the device.
#50
Posté 20 juillet 2015 - 04:20
For me, it really came down to who I thought made more sense to man the bomb, and who makes more sense to abandon. I always abandon the bomb, and Kaidan makes the most sense to oversee it, so he's an unfortunate victim of my zany logic.
I think more about the larger storytelling. Who is better at protecting the bomb solo? Why should I sacrifice my senior officer for the pink damsel in distress again? Who achieve more by being alive?
I do like having Ashley alive in ME3 and I do think there's more content to her than Kaidan's. But I don't like that she needed constant reassurance that she deserve to be alive and later she suffered an existential crisis. And I don't need a headcanon to explain why Ashley go from Operations Chief to Lieutenant in six months..
still, I don't want them both in MEA. Leave them be!





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