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Honestly don't get the hate for this guy. Not a personal favourite, but his character is practically the definition of inoffensive.

He's human and doesn't have boobs. That's unforgivable apparently.

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Ashley was pretty great in ME1, I thought. In ME3 though, her big weakness is the irritatingly forever-broken marksman ability, which I always leave blank for obvious reasons. But in ME3, it didn't even matter to me much. I didn't find either to be immensely useful compared to the rest. The only thing that makes me like Ashley a bit more is that I like that she's the only other companion that can use sniper rifles and has disruptor ammo. I don't really care about Kaidan's biotics, since Liara remains superior than him at this.

 

I don't think you understand ME3 combat very well if you didnt find Kaidan useful. He's hands down the best squadmate in ME3 based solely off combat ability. He has an assault rifle, a defensive ability with Barrier, he can both prime and detonate both tech bursts and biotic explosions (which includes self-comboing them too), and he can strip all three defense types with Overload and Reave. No other squadmate checks off that many boxes and he has synergy with any class of Shepard. You don't have to like him or want to use him, but claiming he's not useful in combat is a load of crap, period.

[Dantriges]

He´s ok, came off a bit whiny in ME 3. Ahsley´s story was more interesting. Felt a bit weird that he was bi in ME 3, like he got desperate.

[kalasaurus]

Rapheal Sbarge voicing another character with a somewhat slightly troubled past and  the ability to whine endlessly?

 

That would be awesome. Seriously though, I like the sound of the voice.

 

Yeah, he has a nice voice at least lol.

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It's kind of ironic, really. Gameplay wise, he is one the best squadmates in the entire trilogy, whereas Ash is among the worst. 

I actually don't think Ashley is bad in combat, even with Marksman, it's just that anyone compared to Kaidan in ME3 is going to lose just like anyone compared to Miranda would lose in ME2. Never underestimate the versatility of a Sentinel. But other than Concussive Shot (which I'm not crazy about to begin with and is a big reason why I always took Kasumi over Garrus in ME2), you have to rely on grenade and ammo powers from her and neither of those are loves of mine. I like things to happen exactly when I want them to and I don't want to have to worry about having to use them sparingly.

 

Personally, I'd say that Tali and Javik are at the bottom of the tier list for that game when it comes to combat.

 

Who will help balance my squad the best come ME3?  If I'm playing a biotic or an infiltrator, Ashley makes it off Virmire since she's pretty handy outside of the broken Marksman ability in ME3.  I also just kinda like her a little more than James, even though they are both soliders.  I thought she had great character development, despite my grumbles about her art redesign.  

 

If I'm playing a solider or a vanguard, then Kaidan survives.  I don't start the Kaidan romance if I intend to leave him on Virmire.  I like both characters, but if they aren't very useful to me in ME3 for my class, then they hug the nuke.

 

No way, Kaidan is Adept Shep's best friend. (I assume you mean Adept by biotic since you mention Vanguard specifically later.) An Adept's biggest priorities when picking a squad should be A ) can they take out shields and B ) can then contribute to biotic explosions. And Kaidan can do both of those. It's like taking both EDI and Liara with you while still getting to take another person too. The introduction of power combos sort of threw the whole squad balance suggestion from ME1 out the window. Squad synergy, covering Shepard's weakness and maximizing his strengths, is more important than balance.

[aoibhealfae]

No way, Kaidan is Adept Shep's best friend. (I assume you mean Adept by biotic since you mention Vanguard specifically later.) An Adept's biggest priorities when picking a squad should be A ) can they take out shields and B ) can then contribute to biotic explosions. And Kaidan can do both of those. It's like taking both EDI and Liara with you while still getting to take another person too.

Urgh... I'm playing Adept and just went to Geth Dreadnought with Ash. While I appreciate her Disruptor ammo but she's limited with just Concussive shot and several grenades. Although I like that she's a menace with the anti-synthetic rifle but it wasn't fun with her around. I'm nerfing myself badly with Ash.... and I miss Kaidan so much *tsk*. 

 

As a Vanguard, he'll prime everything with Reave and normally its a series of biotic explosions with him around. (Reave -> Charge -> Nova) and as an Infiltrator (Overload>Headshot or Cryo Blast -> Incineration) : marriage made in heaven. While I don't think he's that useful with an Adept but he's more valuable with Overload. Normally, I depend on Reave/Wrap team with Liara and Kaidan but I find that as an adept with Kaidan, I could trade Liara with anyone (preferably EDI or James). 

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No way, Kaidan is Adept Shep's best friend.

 

I'm playing Adept right now and I wanted to take Kaidan on missions as soon as I have him back. Now that I could I don't bother. My setup is James and Javik and I'm loving it!

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Urgh... I'm playing Adept and just went to Geth Dreadnought with Ash. While I appreciate her Disruptor ammo but she's limited with just Concussive shot and several grenades. Although I like that she's a menace with the anti-synthetic rifle but it wasn't fun with her around. I'm nerfing myself badly with Ash.... and I miss Kaidan so much *tsk*. 

 

Yeah, Disruptor Ammo is my favorite ammo power, actually, and I really wish it was a bonus power instead of Inferno Grenade. Did you take the Amplification upgrade on her Concussive Shot? When it's combined with her Disruptor Ammo it turns into a pseudo-Overload which ups her usefulness, in my opinion. 

 

I'm playing Adept right now and I wanted to take Kaidan on missions as soon as I have him back. Now that I could I don't bother. My setup is James and Javik and I'm loving it!

 

James and Javik and Adept Shep? Yikes. Shields everywhere unless you took Energy Drain as your bonus. Adept is my main class and I refuse to go anywhere without an Overload or at least pseudo-Overload.

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James and Javik and Adept Shep? Yikes. Shields everywhere unless you took Energy Drain as your bonus. Adept is my main class and I refuse to go anywhere without an Overload or at least pseudo-Overload.

 

I did take Energy Drain Which is why I can leave Kaidan behind, haha. Javik uses Pull, me Throw to detonate. It's easy and quick.

[aoibhealfae]

Yeah, Disruptor Ammo is my favorite ammo power, actually, and I really wish it was a bonus power instead of Inferno Grenade. Did you take the Amplification upgrade on her Concussive Shot? When it's combined with her Disruptor Ammo it turns into a pseudo-Overload which ups her usefulness, in my opinion. 

I spec her Disruptor Ammo with stun so that it would prime easily. Warp can detonate it too. Concussive shot took some time to recharge so its not really feasible in long term. I don't think her ammo is that useful against shielded boss. She's still a good squadmate but not great as a support like Kaidan.

[Chealec]

Ashley > Kaiden because:

 

[KaiserShep]

I think more about the larger storytelling. Who is better at protecting the bomb solo? Why should I sacrifice my senior officer for the pink damsel in distress again? Who achieve more by being alive?

I do like having Ashley alive in ME3 and I do think there's more content to her than Kaidan's. But I don't like that she needed constant reassurance that she deserve to be alive and later she suffered an existential crisis. And I don't need a headcanon to explain why Ashley go from Operations Chief to Lieutenant in six months.. 

 

still, I don't want them both in MEA. Leave them be!

 

In terms of who can protect the bomb solo, I don't see one being all that better than the other. Kaidan's tech and biotics can take care of geth so it's all good I suppose. As for a senior officer, the truth is that regardless of rank, they're all expendable. There's no vital link in the chain lost one way or the other. 

 

I'm not so sure about Kaidan having less content though. From what I can tell, there's more dialogue on the Normandy with him in ME3 than with Ashley. I've checked in with her constantly and the most I could remember is her being drunk on the floor, whereas Kaidan goes on about his dad, has post-mission dialogue about the Cerberus scientists and so forth. Plus, Ashley apparently won't play cards with Vega, but Kaidan will. 

[themikefest]

James and Javik and Adept Shep? Yikes. Shields everywhere unless you took Energy Drain as your bonus. Adept is my main class and I refuse to go anywhere without an Overload or at least pseudo-Overload.

Why? I did a playthrough playing as an adept only using reave for the whole game and not firing my weapon and having Ashley and James on my squad. This was on insanity mode. It turned out to be an easy playthrough. You don't have to have overload or energy drain

[KaiserShep]

I don't think you understand ME3 combat very well if you didnt find Kaidan useful. He's hands down the best squadmate in ME3 based solely off combat ability. He has an assault rifle, a defensive ability with Barrier, he can both prime and detonate both tech bursts and biotic explosions (which includes self-comboing them too), and he can strip all three defense types with Overload and Reave. No other squadmate checks off that many boxes and he has synergy with any class of Shepard. You don't have to like him or want to use him, but claiming he's not useful in combat is a load of crap, period.

 

You're confusing my comment on Kaidan not having some super advantage over other squad members with me saying that he's useless. This is not the case. 

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You're confusing my comment on Kaidan not having some super advantage over other squad members with me saying that he's useless. This is not the case. 

 

He does have an advantage over everyone else, though.

[Bourne Endeavor]

I actually don't think Ashley is bad in combat, even with Marksman, it's just that anyone compared to Kaidan in ME3 is going to lose just like anyone compared to Miranda would lose in ME2. Never underestimate the versatility of a Sentinel. But other than Concussive Shot (which I'm not crazy about to begin with and is a big reason why I always took Kasumi over Garrus in ME2), you have to rely on grenade and ammo powers from her and neither of those are loves of mine. I like things to happen exactly when I want them to and I don't want to have to worry about having to use them sparingly.

 

Personally, I'd say that Tali and Javik are at the bottom of the tier list for that game when it comes to combat.

 

That was more ME1. Ash got a step up in ME3. Granted, she was never a bad choice, just never the optimal one. Kasumi actually comes very close to threatening Miranda's throne in ME2. I'd say she takes it if you play aggressively as flashbang becomes huge.

 

If I were to rank ME3's squad though. I'd put them as such...

 

Kaidan

Garrus

Liara

Ashley

Javik

Tali

James

 

Garrus and Liara are essentially a tie; class determining which fit better in your rotation. I slot Garrus just narrowly ahead because shields tend to be ubiquitous. James, for me, just offers nothing I don't already have. Kaidan can tank pretty effectively and brings so much versatility, while Ash and Garrus have monstrous DPS. Tali kind of gets shafted by joining so damn late into the game and not really offering much. Basically the same problem she had in ME2. Javik seems to be average. He doesn't do enough damage to trump Garrus/Ash and Liara schools him in biotics.

[Quarian Master Race]

He's human and doesn't have boobs. That's unforgivable apparently.

Hardly. Zaeed and James are accepted well enough. I was mostly not understanding why people hate him. If you're not interested in his story from the perspective of one of humanity's first biotics than I could see where one would find him uninteresting (as a lot of people seem to), but he doesn't really have any characteristics that are outright offensive, other than perhaps disagreeing with pretty much every Renegade decision being a potential annoyance to a player who plays as such. So many people relishing in killing him seems really odd.
 

I don't think you understand ME3 combat very well if you didnt find Kaidan useful. He's hands down the best squadmate in ME3 based solely off combat ability. He has an assault rifle, a defensive ability with Barrier, he can both prime and detonate both tech bursts and biotic explosions (which includes self-comboing them too), and he can strip all three defense types with Overload and Reave. No other squadmate checks off that many boxes and he has synergy with any class of Shepard. You don't have to like him or want to use him, but claiming he's not useful in combat is a load of crap, period.

He's quite useful, but its mostly at being a jack of all trades. There isn't a player and squadmate combination that he doesn't work with. However calling him "hands down the best" is pretty off base unless you are just defining best as being most versatile. If you've a Tech/Combat focussed team, combinations of Ash, Tali and Garrus are always going to be faster at clear times due to faster cooldowns on their primers and detonators (ED, grenades and CS) as well as a broken debuff, good ammo powers and superior weapon damage. About 90% of my playthroughs are Infiltrator, Soldier or Engineer, and when I bring Kaidan along the fight is usually over before he gets a chance to cast a second power. The only thing he really does in such a team is overload spam, which Garrus and EDI can both cover better and which isn't very efficient for squadmates to cover in a Tech/combat team anyway.

When it comes to biotic teams he's a bit better, but in my experience is still outstripped by Liara/Javik in most circumstances. Once again, his cooldowns are too slow compared to Liara's 2.5 sec singularity, 6 second warp, and +125% bonus weapon damage to all targets affected by biotic effects for the entire squad's weapons. Meanwhile Javik has DC (which can affect practically an infinite number of targets on one cooldown) and zero cooldown, 8m radius, solid object ignoring overpowered grenades. Ultimately, if you are overloading in a biotic boom squad you're doing it wrong, because then you have to wait 5 seconds or an entire cooldown before you will get a BE instead of a TB.

Ultimately, his main problem is that cryo blast isn't great because of its inordinate cooldown for a power that only primes combos on useless health mooks, and that its primary utility (boss debuff from 5b and 6b) is mostly irrelevant in singleplayer (and it is grossly outstripped by Tali's sabotage in tech squads or Liara's warp in biotic ones), and his barrier is actually counterproductive in terms of min/maxing. Now, if you aren't going for optimal damage output, Kaidan is the toughest squadmate while both barrier and reave DR are active, but that hardly matters in ME3 singleplayer where even insanity level enemies are an absolute joke and will usually be killed or CC'ed before they can even begin firing.

[KaiserShep]

He does have an advantage over everyone else, though.

Not really. With my Vanguard, I don't feel any particular lack for his versatility. I can make things explode left and right, especially if I have Liara and Javik in my group, and enemies are always bursting like movie squibs when I use my VG's incendiary ammo. I kill things way too quickly for it to matter, and I have multiple squad members that can overload while my Shepard sports energy drain for fun. On top of that, the VS suffers in a similar fashion to Tali in that I have to wait until the game is half done to get them back, and Tali at least is mandatory for two whole missions.

I suppose it's a moot point though, since either character's usefulness is not really a factor in who makes it into ME3 more often.

[aoibhealfae]

*cough* whenever Kaidan offered alcohol to my Shepard, they usually have sex later...

 

In terms of who can protect the bomb solo, I don't see one being all that better than the other. Kaidan's tech and biotics can take care of geth so it's all good I suppose. As for a senior officer, the truth is that regardless of rank, they're all expendable. There's no vital link in the chain lost one way or the other. 

 

I'm not so sure about Kaidan having less content though. From what I can tell, there's more dialogue on the Normandy with him in ME3 than with Ashley. I've checked in with her constantly and the most I could remember is her being drunk on the floor, whereas Kaidan goes on about his dad, has post-mission dialogue about the Cerberus scientists and so forth. Plus, Ashley apparently won't play cards with Vega, but Kaidan will. 

All of them are expendable including Shepard. Normally, I just save whoever I need to save regardless of the settings.

 

Even if they shared the same role as VS, there are notable differences. By the start of ME3, Shepard are noticeably more warmer toward Ashley than Kaidan. There were more additional dialogue lines with Ash than with Kaidan (which is a nice change from the romance gate in ME2)... you can ask why Ash didn't visit Shepard during the six-months incarceration period, you can ask her about her family, her poetry etc. Later half, she suffered some existential crisis but I wouldn't say she regressed as a character merely because she doesn't have a lot of scenes on the Normandy. Honestly, much like Kaidan, the best way to maximize Ashley's experience was to bring her along for every missions.

[KaiserShep]

Technically, in ME1, Shepard is not expendable thanks to the beacon's info, which was needed to find Ilos, so even if there was an option to save both while sacrificing Shep, it'd just be game over for the galaxy.

[Hazegurl]

I take Kaidan everywhere with me whenever I have him on my team.  He just doesn't drop in combat unless I'm not paying much attention or doing something stupid. Kaidan is like the freaking terminator. lol!

 

As for the bomb.  I wouldn't trust it to anyone else but Kaidan since he's far more qualified to handle it, but I also wouldn't trust that Saren is dumb enough to fall for a distraction team or that one person could arm a bomb, fight off a team of Geth alone, AND count on the Geth (with their superior tech skills) to not be able to deactivate the bomb before it going off.  That requires too much head canon for me to let go.  So I go back to the bomb site for Kaidan.

 

A distraction is just that, a freaking distraction.  If Ash couldn't make it out despite the help I gave while doing my own mission then she wasn't worth keeping around in the first place.  I liked her more than some of my other squadmates though, shame I couldn't keep her and Kaidan.

 

And no to Kaidan in Andromeda. lol!