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[The Heretic of Time]

I'm okay with batarians and a batarian romance, but I'd rather see the vorcha making a return, including a vorcha squad member and vorcha romance option.

[Dirgegun]

I'm gonna reply to this seriously because I think it deserves a serious answer.

 

I do think it's about time we have a batarian companion. The narrative has built them up to be an entire race of murderers, rapists, and slavers and for a game like Mass Effect, that has dealt with the grey shades of morality in so many ways, and even showed that there was more to the geth than simply being 'rogue AI,' it feels like a massive drop in writing quality. It's also uncomfortable to see an entire race, fictional or not, reduced to being a token villain. 

 

We were told there was moderate and 'good' batarians, but we weren't really able to interact with them. Garrus didn't even share too much about the batarian who was on his team, apart from a very basic overview. It makes the race feel incredibly lacking compared to the others and I think that needs to change. No single race in Mass Effect should be a throw away detail. I feel the same way about the Vorcha. 

 

As for romance option? Well, personally, who my characters romance depends on the other characters' story and personality. So, I wouldn't knock it. =P

[themikefest]

Maybe have both him and Narl in the game

[Dirgegun]

Thanks for the well thought out response. I did take a humorous turn with some of the images in my post, but I am serious about seeing the Batarians in Andromeda and having one as a squadmate, and a possible romance would be a refreshing change if it can address supposed Batarian/Human hatred in the past. Honestly, the whole Batarian and Human conflict sort of reminds me of Cardassians and Bajorans, and even they romance.

 

Cardassians and Bajorans! Hello fellow Trekkie!

 

I definitely think the general racial animosity could make a very interesting story, as well as the reactions it could potentially garner from other companions and characters in general. I do love juxtaposition in stories in general and romance arcs! If nothing else, batarians need to be explored more narratively.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I'd like a Batarian squadmate or crew member. Really any Batarian we can talk to multiple times and get to know. Bonus points if they lived within Batarian space before the Hegemony fell. It'd be a hell of a lot better than another Quarian that says flotilla every third word which we're bound to get.

 

But for a romance? Hell no.

[In Exile]

Batarians are so comically evil as a society that it wouldn't really be possible to have a properly batarian character as a squad member.

[AlexiaRevan]

Batarians are so comically evil as a society that it wouldn't really be possible to have a properly batarian character as a squad member.

who know..maybe Aria will let one of her batarian bodyguard hole crate in the Andromeda ship and thats how he is your squad mate 

[shodiswe]

Can't say I'm a fan of Batarians, or them in any of the ME games,

[WildOrchid]

Why not? It can't be a physical issue since we share 99% of our anatomy with Batarians. We just have different facial features. Physical attraction should be easier with a Batarian than with Krogan or Turians. Personality is the key here, but physically there should be no problem at all.

 

Ikr, people are totally fine with Garrus or turians who are like....... very different from humans in general but not batarians? Plz.

[AresKeith]

I'd like Bray to return

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

If I remember correctly, Admiral Hacket says batarians took the worst hit in the war and are most likely extinct, so I don't see that happening unfortunately. I would love having one on my party tough, their species have a pretty interesting backstories and were presented as the rivals of humans, so having one on my party would provide interesting roleplay.

 

As a romance tough, if they put it, yay for the people that are into that. But I will stick with humans thank you very much

[Metalfros]

If I remember correctly, Admiral Hacket says batarians took the worst hit in the war and are most likely extinct, so I don't see that happening unfortunately. I would love having one on my party tough, their species have a pretty interesting backstories and were presented as the rivals of humans, so having one on my party would provide interesting roleplay.

 

As a romance tough, if they put it, yay for the people that are into that. But I will stick with humans thank you very much

First: The Arc is probably launched before the actual Reaper Invasion, so it is definetly possible. Second, I still think thousands of Batarians at least managed to escape (come on, they were in the billions before) and off course you have Batarians living on other planets and the Citadel. Extinct? No. But they likely lost 9/10 of their numbers.

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

First: The Arc is probably launched before the actual Reaper Invasion, so it is definetly possible. Second, I still think thousands of Batarians at least managed to escape (come on, they were in the billions before) and off course you have Batarians living on other planets and the Citadel. Extinct? No. But they likely lost 9/10 of their numbers.

Well, according to the leaks (if you take them seriously), the Ark takes off wen they lose contact with Shepard in the last minutes of ME3. So anything that happened prior to that would be taken in consideration.

The batarians in the citadel at the time were what... a dozen of refuges? Before the war they were barely seen in the station, and I doubt anyone aboard remained alive wen the reapers took control of it and took it to earth.

The ones in the colonies would stand little chance, we all had news the colonies were being easly nuked from space. So yes, the batarians were pretty much extinct after the war, probably too few remained to even sustain a viable population.

Even if the ark leaves before the war... Do you really see a rouge race working in a project like that? I doubt any of the council races would trust them to be part of such sensitive and secret endeavor. But I guess the same could be said for Quarians, and I doubt the devs will leave them out.

[SolNebula]

Ah yes batarians.....the Reapers dismissed that claim.

[Will-o'-wisp]

I completely agree that the Batarians should make a comeback in ME:Andromeda and that they deserve a place in the spotlight this time. They're my favourite species in the ME Franchise and imo a Batarian squadmate is long overdue. If they still won't give us one this time, there should at least be one or several important batarian NPCs in the game and on our ship. I wouldn't object to a batarian romance either - I just said they're my favourite species afterall - but it all depends on the specific character we're going to romance and his or her personality. I agree that the hostilities between humans and batarians could lead to a interesting dynamic though.

Concerning the issue of the batarians "being extinct" and their general chances of reappearing, I made a post on the "What I'm most bitter about" thread (the post itself was probably slightly off topic eventhough the Batarians not appearing in ME:A would ironically be what would make me the most bitter):
 

Batarians aren't gone because of that. By that logic, humanity should be gone as well but they aren't, because there's millions of members of every species living outside their own systems. Batarians seemed to be the most prevalent species in the Terminus Systems and I think that a reasonable population survived.

I'd much rather see the Batarians make a comeback in ME:A than species like the Krogan, quarians or geth. Their stories have been featured prominently throughout the series while the batarians' potential was completely wasted and they were either used as enemy mooks or the punching bags of the galaxy. Since their worlds were destroyed first, they would've been looking for ways to survive first and there should be a reasonable chance that they found a way to enter the ark program / become a part of whatever leads us to Andromeda in the first place. It's not like they have much left to lose in the Milky Way, so they should be up for it.

I really hope they don't get pushed aside again for the other species that have already had their time to shine again and again. But I'm afraid I'm one of the very few Batarian fans on here and that they don't look bangable enough for most people to care whether they'll be back or not.

[Quarian Master Race]

Batarians have the problem of sort of having a culture that is based around slavery being an inextricable part of their caste system. The only way to have one as a squadmate that wouldn't be reprehensible to most players upon further scrutiny would be for them to be some kind of unorthodox cultural exile. Or, the entire species' stock villain design would have to be retconned. As for a romance, well, its not somewhere the series hasn't been before. All the way back in Revelation we had a brothel where batarians made use of human slaves, so presumably the interest is there in universe. 

[Steppenwolf]

I would like for the Batarians to be present in Andromeda just so we have some Milky Way natives with different/opposing morals. The Batarians are morally relativistic and I think that mindset would be a great asset in a mission of colonization.

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

I would like them to return, as I said the human-batarian rivalry makes for interesting roleplay. I just don't see a believable way for a rouge race to be involved in a project like the arkon, wich is most likely lead by council races. But the quarians don't make much sense too, but you can bet they will be in andromeda. If the devs can bring a reasonable explanation for both races to be in the arkon, I will be a happy gamer.

[Steppenwolf]

Batarians have the problem of sort of having a culture that is based around slavery being an inextricable part of their caste system. The only way to have one as a squadmate that wouldn't be reprehensible to most players upon further scrutiny would be for them to be some kind of unorthodox cultural exile. Or, the entire species' stock villain design would have to be retconned.

I don't think that's true. Dorian in Inquisition is from Tevinter, a culture that supports slavery, blood magic, deals with demons, etc, and he is well-loved despite being pro-slavery.

[Panda]

I'd love to have Batarian companion. We haven't had lot of view to their culture in ME1-3. Other than that they apparently like to slave people and don't like humans ^^;

 

Not that intrested about romancing one though, but not cutting it out of options either. Turian romance worked out fine so why not Batarian as well.

[dreamgazer]

#BrayDeservesBetterDetails

I approve.

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

I don't think that's true. Dorian in Inquisition is from Tevinter, a culture that supports slavery, blood magic, deals with demons, etc, and he is well-loved despite being pro-slavery.

He is loved because he is a pariah, he disagrees with a lot of things in his homeland and wants to change them.

Blood magic has several uses, if done using the blood of the caster, what's the harm? Sacrificing people in rituals is wrong of course, but is using your own blood to cast spells that different of using mana? And making enemies choke in their own blood really worse than incinerating them with a fire ball? The pact with a demon part can bite you in the back for sure, but it's said you can learn blood magic from other mages, effectively making it no more dangerous than any other magic school, since using magic makes you vulnerable to possession anyway.

Sure, Dorian WAS pro-slave, because he had grown up in that life, and admits he never gave much consideration to the topic before seeing it from the other perspective. And by the end of the game he says the inquisitor's actions gave him confidence to finally take a stand for his homeland and to try to change it.

If they write a batarian as interesting as Dorian, I'm sure people will love him too.