Damn. Only 15%? Back when I was in college, at most parties most people were only like 3 drinks and some good drugs away from bisexuality.
That "15%" is actually incorrect. The most recent studies say only 3,5% of the western population is non-heterosexual (and that is accounting for all bisexuals, gays and lesbians).
You see, I can agree with this. Because why would anyone want their child to go through the gender dysphoria that comes with being trans? Especially in the future where these procedures would be presumably safer and quite simple to complete.
Right, which is why it wouldn't be presented as an issue. In my proposal, the trans character's arc and personal missions would be about something completely unrelated. I don't think many people want A Character Who Is Defined By Being Trans.
But how would be know said character is transsexual if he/she looks and acts like a regular man/woman in every single way? Even today in the 21st century it can be difficult to tell post-op trans folk apart from regular folk. I assume the difference between trans-folk and normal-folk completely disappears by the end of the 23rd century.
Unless the trans character in ME brings it up, you might never know or never find out that the person is trans. Which brings me to the next question: Why would said character ever bring it up?
The argument that people are born bisexual and shaped by culture is actually horseshit tbh.
Good luck with your gender identity but don't blame society for people's feelings and attractions.
But I read on Tumblr that it is society's fault, especially all those patriarchal cishet misogynerds. They should be killed to death for daring to oppress anyone with their mere existence.
The argument that people are born bisexual and shaped by culture is actually horseshit tbh.
Good luck with your gender identity but don't blame society for people's feelings and attractions.
When I look up "biologically normal" I get stuff related to breastfeeding and cholesterol levels. Why even brings this up when no-one is talking about it?
Also like Lady Artifice said most western media is created by straight white males, so other straight white males are catered to by default unless noted.
I agree that population control isn't relevant here either.
Biologically normal is anything that refers to what is normal for our species from a biological standpoint. It is normal for people to be heterosexual because our species reproduces with heterosexual sex. It's sort of needed in order for our species to continue being a species.
Straight white male is such a broad market that the best you can do for trying to cater to it is putting attractive women on it, which would be catering to straight men, lesbian women, and bisexual everybody.
The idea that "media caters to straight white men because it is created by straight white men" is insane, because the only qualifications to be included in that market is that you are male, like women, and are white. It says nothing about what kind of media caters to me.
What I think you're going for is that western media caters to things which are stereotypically seen as straight male things, but you weren't trying to imply that all straight white men and only straight white men can be catered to by doing that, right? =P
Unless the trans character in ME brings it up, you might never know or never find out that the person is trans. Which brings me to the next question: Why would said character ever bring it up?
Maybe the character feels it's relevant information before beginning a romance? Maybe the character mentions something about their childhood that heavily implies it and you can fill in the gaps?
They can perfect procedures as much as they want, but there is still likely a period of time before the character made the choice, and it's entirely possible for it to come up during conversation with a close friend or lover.
https://en.wikipedia...i/Sambia_people
even though it's just text, it's totally NSFW
Well damn that was a late edit. I'm at work.
While I acknowledge what you're trying to say by linking this, this proves absolutely nothing more than the fact they're a society that observes traditions and rituals.
https://en.wikipedia...i/Sambia_people
even though it's just text, it's totally NSFW
Yes, because linking to a culture that essentially revolves around pedophilia completely proves your point.
Goddamn it this thread is growing like cancer. Deckard needs his, like, 18th ban for this one......or a medal. I'm not sure.
Goddamn it this thread is growing like cancer. Deckard needs his, like, 18th ban for this one......or a medal. I'm not sure.
Probably both.
Also, how much money has that guy spent buying Mass Effect 3 on alternate accounts?
Here are some links:
https://web.archive....rientation.aspx
http://pediatrics.aa...113/6/1827.long
Probably both.
Also, how much money has that guy spent buying Mass Effect 3 on alternate accounts?
I don't know. PS3 lets you start infinite accounts, but I'm pretty sure XBox doesn't. Unless you can sign onto origin and link a profile here with an account that doesn't have Live?
Well damn that was a late edit. I'm at work.
While I acknowledge what you're trying to say by linking this, this proves absolutely nothing more than the fact they're a society that observes traditions and rituals.
Right, which is why it wouldn't be presented as an issue. In my proposal, the trans character's arc and personal missions would be about something completely unrelated. I don't think many people want A Character Who Is Defined By Being Trans.
And going by the trans-people I've met in my life, they don't want to talk about it either. They just want to do their jobs and be treated like everyone else. So if they're on the ship as part of the crew, or the team, I'd expect them to be pretty quiet about it and just go about their work whatever it is.
If they're going to do this, I don't think that the character's past as the other gender, sex, or whatever terms people are using these days should be brought up during normal conversation. I like the idea of loyalty missions for characters like we had in ME2, and give the character a good story arc that doesn't use Bioware's traditional fall back of daddy issues - in fact ditch this for all the characters except maybe one (make sure all the characters have strong story arcs) - there has to be one with daddy issues. That (the gender) part should only come up after completing this character's loyalty mission and starting down the romance dialogue tree. If you don't start down the romance dialogue tree, the discussion doesn't come up.
Thoughts?
I wouldn't have minded Krem over Bull really.
Or Krem as Bull.
That's how I felt. Krem seemed pretty mellow which I liked. IB just got on my nerves. Actually I would have preferred the "Not a Mage" elf over Sera too.
It's still not particularly proving anything to me. I'd love for you to give me a first world society that does this and it's not considered endangerment, abuse, etc.
Yes, because linking to a culture that essentially revolves around pedophilia completely proves your point.
It's still not particularly proving anything to me. I'd love for you to give me a first world society that does this and it's not considered endangerment, abuse, etc.
And going by the trans-people I've met in my life, they don't want to talk about it either. They just want to do their jobs and be treated like everyone else. So if they're on the ship as part of the crew, or the team, I'd expect them to be pretty quiet about it and just go about their work whatever it is.
If they're going to do this, I don't think that the character's past as the other gender, sex, or whatever terms people are using these days should be brought up during normal conversation. I like the idea of loyalty missions for characters like we had in ME2, and give the character a good story arc that doesn't use Bioware's traditional fall back of daddy issues - in fact ditch this for all the characters except maybe one (make sure all the characters have strong story arcs) - there has to be one with daddy issues. That part should only come up after completing this character's loyalty mission and starting down the romance dialogue tree. If you don't start down the romance dialogue tree, the discussion doesn't come up.
Thoughts?
Going back to the Mass Effect 2 structure in general sounds like a good idea, since Andromeda won't be hampered in the same ways Mass Effect 2's "plot" was.
I'm willing to not use a word if it causes distress with people even if I'm not aware why.
There are other options to use and my vocabulary is sufficiently large enough to do so.
Same. It's really not just a matter of empathy, but also efficiency. Choosing a word with a controversial meaning will usually lead to semantics debates. It's just simpler and more effective to opt for words that get your actual meaning across to the listening audience, instead of just obstinately clinging to the words that don't, whether because they're outdated or too heavy with distracting implications.
Pfft yourself. Western society might be crafter by straight white males but not just for straight white males.
This where we get into that sematics debate. I argue that writers will usually craft stories and characters that appeal to them, and consequentially that appeal to people like them. You're certainly free to claim that I'm making some kind of wild speculation with this argument, but that's when I go "Pfft."
Ofcourse human society tends to be hetero-normative, that's because we are a hetero-normative species. Over 96,5% of people in the west are heterosexual.
Indeed. Not at all in line with your previous comments on the subject:
"You must be living in a different reality than me.
Which media is catering to straight white people and who told you that they're the only ones that mattered for so long?"
but indeed. The answer to "Which media is catering to straight white people?" is: most media.
Also what analysis of media? The analysis from tumblr-dwellers with gender studies degrees? No one takes those people seriously and for good reasons.
Tumblr is not where gender studies originated. It's where younger students of gender studies discuss, and sometimes misunderstand them. It's also where a lot of obvious trolls imitate these discussions--obviously--and naive observers fall for their trolling, taking it as somehow indicative of gender studies in general.
Some notable academic papers on the subject of social gender norms in media:
"The Woman's Film," by Molly Haskell.
"Exploring the Visual Parameters of Women in Film," by Benshoff and Griffin.
"The Image of Women in Film: Suggestions for Future Research," by Sharon Smith.
"Who is Bisexual," by Wayne M. Bryant.
Ah yes, so stupid of me.
Only first world societies matter. What was I thinking?
In terms of this particular debate? Centering on Mass Effect, with all of these first world examples of "transphobia," etc? Yeah. That is all that matters.
In terms of this particular debate? Centering on Mass Effect, with all of these first world examples of "transphobia," etc? Yeah. That is all that matters.
Well, excuse me for for focusing on your statement that culture had no influence on sexuality.
It's fine to focus on a statement, but you have to focus on the statement in terms of the current argument. Bringing in a point that has nothing to do with the actual discussion does not prove your argument correct in any way. At all.
Culture still has no influence on sexuality. Give any of these people free will, take away their misinformation that doing things a certain way promotes a certain thing, and they'll be free to decide their sexuality on their own merits. That is the point being made here.
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