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#51
Errel

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Stop typing everything with caps.

Seriously, you are hurting the internet.

#52
JackDresden

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One more try turn your game manual to page 31, start reading, it's not at all hard.


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frags81

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Successful troll is successful!

#54
Htorne

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beyondconfused are you roleplaying on the forums ?

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JackDresden

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I think beyond confused is a spamming program at this point. They just keep shouting the same thing in slightly different ways ignoring all the points raised in response.

I think the name eTroll would be good for this application.

Modifié par JackDresden, 05 novembre 2009 - 09:57 .


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Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 05 novembre 2009 - 09:57 .


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Evolution13 wrote...

I think I see the problem, the tactics screen doesn't work with caps-lock on.


:D

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Tactics tell your party members what to do when you are not directly controlling them. When you ARE controlling them, the tactical settings do nothing. You have to use your own abilities on your bar (PC), or radial menu (console). Tactics isn't an ability you can use (like setting up some cool combo), but to automate your party members when you aren't using them.



For example, I'll use skills like shield bash to knock some one over with my character. You do not have to set up a tactic for this.



IF you want your character to use shield bash while you AREN"T controlling him, then you set up a tactic.

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Laughing so much I have tears rolling down my face. Oops Sorry try this:

LAUGHING SO MUCH I HAVE TEARS ROLLING DOWN MY FACE!!!

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I find terrible funny as every game i really want that others get earlier then myself people moan about stuff. I had it while i was waiting for Mass effect and fable 2 but when i got the those games i loved them. I think people expect too much sometimes

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Edit: First ever double post.

Modifié par PinchIt12, 05 novembre 2009 - 10:05 .


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Varenus Luckmann

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PinchIt12 wrote...

Laughing so much I have tears rolling down my face. Oops Sorry try this:
LAUGHING SO MUCH I HAVE TEARS TROLLING DOWN MY FACE!!!

Fix't! :D

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beyondconfused

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One more try turn your game manual to page 31, start reading, it's not at all hard.

No it actually does not explain how to use the tactics menu, only how to open it up and what it's supposedly used for...I have yet to be able to do anything with it or even how to know if I am doing with it to begin with.

All anyone keeps saying is ste up tactics, set up tactics....This is a great screen....


BLAH BLAH BLAH...cannot be that great,.... there is no way to do anything anyone is saying here because it's not explained HOW you actually go about doing this..

1. HOW THE HELL DO YOU SET UP TACTICS
2. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT CHARACTER YOU ARE APPLPYING IT TO
3. HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXECUTE THE DAMN TACTIC THAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY SET UP

All 3 of those questions I have listed above, are no where to be found in the manul or any place here, and no one here has explained how.

WTF

Modifié par beyondconfused, 05 novembre 2009 - 10:09 .


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Seriously, its time for this guy to be banned. His name calling, and his obnoxious attempts at trying to make a point have gone on long enough. He has been posting this same topic all day long, and while humor sometimes is to be had by reading his posts...the derogatory nature of his posts have gone too far.



Bioware, its time you brought a lil sanity to the forums, and just ban his ability to post, please!

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Thanks for making it half caps, that's an improvement.

1. HOW THE HELL DO YOU SET UP TACTICS

Go to the tactics menu (it's at the top for PC, not sure about console)



2. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT CHARACTER YOU ARE APPLPYING IT TO

First select a character. Then click your tactics icon at the top (for PC). You are applying tactics to that character.



3. HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXECUTE THE DAMN TACTIC THAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY SET UP

It is executed automatically when you do not control your character and your conditions are met.

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JackDresden wrote...

beyondconfused wrote...

TACTICS MENU IS 1005 USELESS BECAUSE IT CNANOT BE USED AND IT'S 1005 CLEAR NO OE HERE KNOWS HOW TO USE IT. THAT'S WHY NO ONE PROVIDES ANY EXPLANTIONS ON HOW


IT'S GOING TO BE A RIOT WHEN I GET SOMEONE FROM EA OVER THE PHONE AND THEY WILL BE GOING OVER EVERY ASPECT OF THE TACTICS MENU ALONG WITH ALL ITS OPTIONS AND EVERY SINGLE MENU

I DON'T THINK THEY WILL BE TO THRILLED ABOUT THAT NOW WILL THEY.

WELL TOO BAD INSTEAD OF AN HOUR OF USELESS DIALOG ABOUT WATCHING A CASTLE, THEY SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED A VERY IN DEPTH EXPLANATION ON EVERY INTERFACE OPTION AND THEN EVERY MENUES AND ALL THE OPTIONS IN THOSE MENUS AND HOW TO USE EVERYTHING.

AS I SAID BIOWARE CLEARLY DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE GAMES PLAYABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILLIAR WITH ANYTHING. AND I HOPE BIOWARE SEES THIS

SCREW THEM.. RETARDS


Do you have some sort of ADD condition, why should anyone explain this to you when all you do is rant abuse at everyone.

I'm sure EA will be very happy to explain the entire game to you over the phone if you like it's a premium rate number ;-)

P.s. or you could read page 31 -32 of the manual as I told you.

P.P.S. I'm sure that Bioware/EA will find your wild ranting just as funny as we all do.



I SEE THE PROBLEM ITS ON PAGE 29-30 IN MY MANUAL.......Collector's edition)Image IPB

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I agree that his posts aren't that constructive, but maybe someone should develop a short walkthrough for people who don't understand how to use the system, so that people may get the most out of the game.

I'm pretty sure you don't even need to use the system but yeah...

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For consol (Well Xbox anyways) just go to iventory, and I think it's on the stats page, just press Y. There you go, there are tatics. ;)

If you're on the PC and you just find it too hard, try changing the difficulty to easy untill you get the hang of it, that and turn off caps lock. :)

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beyondconfused wrote...

One more try turn your game manual to page 31, start reading, it's not at all hard.


no it does not

All anyone keeps saying is ste up tactics, set up tactics....This is a ghreat screen....


BLAH BLAH BLAH...cannot be that great,.... there is no way to do anything anyone is saying here because it's not explained HOW you actually go about doing this..

1. HOW THE HELL DO YOU SET UP TACTICS
2. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT CHARACTER YOU ARE APPLPYING IT TO
3. HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXECUTE THE DAMN TACTIC THAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY SET UP

All 3 of those questions I have listed above, are no where to be found in the manul or any place here, and no one here has explained how.

WTF



People would help you if you had started this thread reasonably. All you had to do was ask politely if someone could help you understand how to use the tactics menu. This would hae gotten you a thread full of polite and helpful replies, and would probably be playing the game right now.

Instead, you've posted in all caps, effectively shouting at everyone, insulted people in the thread, insulted Bioware and refused to accept that the system works, despite the fact that no one else is having any problems with it.

Seriously, what did you expect from this thread?

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Forgive me if I don't recall exactly the specifics, but example: I have a Mage in my party. When I'm not in direct control of my Mage, I want her to automatically cast a heal spell on me if my health drops to below 25%. I can set it up to do that. I go to tactics menu for the Mage and set the condition to some thing like player health <= 25% then set the action to use ability heal spell.

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wow, just wow... i don't know if you are trolling or not, but im going to give you the benefit of the the doubt and believe that you really are having trouble understanding the tactics menu. It can be daunting at first. I had no idea what to do with it either, until i did a little bit of reading and playing with it. I'll try and give you the basics of the system.



The tactics menu is a powerful tool that the player character (you) can use to tell your party members what to do when you do not have them selected. These "triggers" can be situational. For example (I'll try to use the language that the game uses), If "self is attacked by a melee character" (this is the first box on the left), then activate "dirty fighting" (this is the first box on the right.



Here is another example.

If "ally goes below (>) 30% health" (again this is the box on the left) then "cast lesser heal" (this is the box on the right)



One more example for good measure.

If "surrounded by 3 enemies" (box on the left) then activate *ability X that attacks more than one enemy at once*(insert name of ability between the stars) (box on the right)



Again, this system tells the computer (AI or Artificial Intelligence) what to do in certain situations when you are not able to pay full attention each individual party member. This happens to me all the time.



I am by no means an expert on this system, I simply have a basic understanding of it. I am still learning. I hope this helps you and anyone who reads this.




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beyondconfused

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Go to the tactics menu (it's at the top for PC, not sure about console)


You are saying open the tactics menu



First select a character. Then click your tactics icon at the top (for PC). You are applying tactics to that character.


This makes no sense.. needs a full description about what exactly you are saying to do....WTF do you mean select a character. The tactics menu doesn't apply to any specific character So I do not know what you mean or why you are saying select a character or how you are saying to do this





It is executed automatically when you do not control your character and your conditions are met.


Sorry you have now totally made absolutely no sense... you are always in control of your character, and you can only go into your own inventory.



I don't think you know what you are talking about

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JackDresden

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beyondconfused wrote...


One more try turn your game manual to page 31, start reading, it's not at all hard.


no it does not

All anyone keeps saying is ste up tactics, set up tactics....This is a ghreat screen....


BLAH BLAH BLAH...cannot be that great,.... there is no way to do anything anyone is saying here because it's not explained HOW you actually go about doing this..

1. HOW THE HELL DO YOU SET UP TACTICS
2. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT CHARACTER YOU ARE APPLPYING IT TO
3. HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXECUTE THE DAMN TACTIC THAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY SET UP

All 3 of those questions I have listed above, are no where to be found in the manul or any place here, and no one here has explained how.

WTF


Ok to answer point 2 look at the screen shot in the manual notice the name of a character with 2 arrows underneath below where it says tactics (top left) the two arrow will scroll between characters. The tactics shown on screen apply to what ever character name you have selected up there (easy). They even label it and say click to change character in the manual.

3 - you don't execute the tactic, tactics are things that characters will do if you arent directly controling them at the time, it's a way to control the AI.

1 - to set up a tactic you choose a condition first this is when that characters AI will execute the action if not being directly controlled. Then you select the action what to do when the condition is met.

I worked all this out in 5 minutes looking at the page in the manual.

Really not hard.

#75
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double post.. sorry

Modifié par the_esherick, 05 novembre 2009 - 10:18 .