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Will there be an all male race in ME:A?


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#101
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A true male-only species could only be a parasitic in nature - which would mean that they reproduce via .androgenisis. Unfortunately, androgenisis doesn't tend to make a good case for evolution. And even if it did, we'd have an entire species that existed by diddling with their equivalent of Fido the dog to continue their species; which isn't very attractive (or it might be to some of you, who knows).

I thought an Androgynous Sapient Plant species would be kind of cool to encounter. 

An all male race would only work if from the beginning they shared their homeword with other species, that has both genders or just one. That way they could pull the "used other species to reproduce" card and wouldn't be just a genderswap asari, giving us an actual biological explanation. As people said, they could be parasites, needing to place their genes in other species, them they would develop stealing the victim's nutrients. Of course, that would ruin the potential for romances, unless they come up with a viable way for the victim to give birth without dying. Ether way, this would be a neat homage to ALIEN, and an interesting plot to explore.

 

I think it could be plausible if they combined these two concepts. 

 

If there were two species of sapient humanoids that evolved together on the same planet:  one is the dominant species with male/female sexual reproduction; the other is an opportunistic species that, for whatever reason (sci fi writing isn't my strength), has become all-male.  They have the ability to reproduce with the other species' females, but the offspring produced are of their own male-only species.  It would be a form of androgenesis via symbiotic co-evolution.  Is it super-realistic?  Not really.  But it's no less unbelievable than psychic parthenogenesis, right.....?

 

Basically, if they wanted to make it happen, they could.  And it they could draw upon 'real world' science to support it, the way they did with the asari.  The "but it's scientifically impossible" argument doesn't actually hold much weight.  Now, whether or not they would create a second mono-gendered species?   Another story.


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Know I saw this mentioned a couple times in here but what about if they were more or less plant based breeding via spores so no partner is really needed? Though honestly I'm just picturing the silliest things in my head after typing that like having the growing babies in pots and watering them with a hose or something.

So would the romance be something like this?

 

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So would the romance be something like this?

 

-snip-

 

Can't actually see the picture you put up but I'm gonna guess it's something unpleasant. :lol:



#104
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Ok, how about the all male race be like this one particular type of snail that reproduce by shooting darts at each other. Who ever gets shot first gets pregnant :D

Or by armwrestling. Who loses gets pregnant... somehow. And they all have big mustaches, bigger the mustache, older the person.



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They are as fanservice race as Asari, though both are lot more than just fanservice too, but lorewise you are right :) Still I'd love to see another Drell LI.

For a fanservice race they sure did weigh them down with problems. Mass extinction, short lifespans (85 years to a Human's 150), early death by incurable disease, and as a consequence dwindling numbers. Some fanservice that is!  <_<



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For a fanservice race they sure did weigh them down with problems. Mass extinction, short lifespans (85 years to a Human's 150), early death by incurable disease, and as a consequence dwindling numbers. Some fanservice that is!  <_<

 

Yep XD But they were made in order to make alien LI for female players (Thane) so their origins are pretty much fanservice one. Though BW did really good job with them so they don't really feel like that in the game.



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an all-female race makes more sense than an all-male.  Even if they "reproduce" in a similar way.  This isn't a time to try and be PC.  By definition males can't have children.

 

An a-sexual species would make sense but they'd be pretty ambiguous looking..not toned/etc.

 

As much as I love Liara and the Asari, we don't need another brain-dead nerd-wet-dream species.



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What we need is a Batarian LI. Way better than Human, Drell, and Turian.



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Who is to say Asari are female? sure by human stanards they are. 



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Who is to say Asari are female? sure by human stanards they are. 

 

The in-game codex that calls them an "all female species"......


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Ill have to be carefull not to get my girlfreind pregnent then.



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I don't really blame the lack of females on Bioware laziness to be honest. We always seem to accuse developers of laziness when it comes to these kinds of things, but creating a game like Mass Effect requires everything but laziness to make it as much of a beloved series as it is. Most likely it was a matter of technical, time, and resource limitations. You can save memory and resources by copy-pasting the same generic Turian male all over the place, or you can create a unique model for every single NPC which, to my knowledge, has never been done perfectly. I've noticed the same NPC models in Witcher 3 for example, but that game is current gen whereas ME was working with last-gen limitations. Same thing goes for body types. They could spend time creating unique body types for every NPC, but why bother when a majority of them will be covered in armor?

 

Not saying I wouldn't mind more diversity, but only if they could do it without sacrificing in other areas. They could at least slap a generic female turian model all over the place along with the male one. Memory is the reason ME3 didn't even have a holster button correctly? That says a lot about last gen hardware limitations. Hopefully Bioware isn't limited by tech with ME:A. It might not even matter though since who knows if this game will even have hub worlds with NPCs to interact with anyway. The whole game could be spent on uncharted planets for all we know to avoid that problem.

 

Still, I'm always open for more female representation. I'm not against any gender, orientation, race or anything at all. I don't give a damn as long as the characters are great, which is always the case for Mass Effect. I know you could say that because I'm a male, having a lot of male characters just means I don't have a reason to complain, and that is certainly an ok view to have. I'd like to think that I don't care about copy-paste male models because I just dont care at all though. Have 90% of the NPCs be generic females and I still wouldn't care.



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Ill have to be carefull not to get my girlfreind pregnent then.

 

Are you or your girlfriend Asari?  If so, then yes, the struggle is real.  If not, then you don't have to worry about it.


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Thanks Doctor.

Now about this Rash..



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Thanks Doctor.

Now about this Rash..

Stay away from the Drell and your rash will clear up.



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Got to love how an all woman race is Great while an all male one is Problematic.


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Would an all-male species work if they were genetically engineered to be that way? For some reason. I imagine you could come up with a host of reasons why such a thing might happen: breeding stock, slave race, soldiers etc. I guess you could control the population more easily that way. Miranda was genetically engineered without a mother, right? Just her father's material. Perhaps with the technology in Andromeda, they could manage that on a population-wide scale.

 

Just thinking out loud here.



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Sontarans.



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Got to love how an all woman race is Great while an all male one is Problematic.

There is this movie called Prometheus. The aliens are all male

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and were interpreted to be the angels of the Abrahamic religions. They are genetically identical to Humans. They made Humans or were ordered to by their god. Some fans have interpreted that based on the highly religious context of the movie that they may have bred with women and sired children later known in the religious texts as giants. I'm not certain if this is truly what is supposed to have been implied in the movie (I hope not as these dudes are 9 feet tall) or if the sequels to the movie will address this, but the director (Ridley Scott) may be showing a romance (sinister plot involved) between a rogue AI
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and the female lead.
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#120
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Sure under the tab extinct races.

Due to modern techs females can continue life even without men....the contrary is not true at the moment (thanks God).



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I should add that some scientist used two female mice, and without any male mice involvement, to create baby female mice. So if it can be done wih Humans in the future then we may become like the Asari... :o



#122
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No! No buttbabies! Ever seen Dreamcatcher?  :sick:

 

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I have not, but with an endorsement like that I think I have to.



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The in-game codex that calls them an "all female species"......

 

This is forcing human concepts on a race that has no need or use for them.

Sure, from human perspective they might be females, but even so the whole mind-sex nerve-blending thing "slightly" muddies the water.



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I have not, but with an endorsement like that I think I have to.

See it! You'll stick to a high fiber, intestinal probiotic diet for life; just to make sure things go smoothly.


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#125
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Thanks Doctor.

Now about this Rash..

 

Avoid Kelly Chambers.