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[thesuperdarkone2]

Hear me out. Regardless of which race you prefer to play, you can't deny that certain implications and revelations about certain races makes them seem more interesting and opens up more potential revelations in the future.  For instance:

 

Elves: The elven pantheon is real, arlathan wasn't the paradise elves made it out to be, ancient elves apparently using red lyrium.

 

Dwarves: lyrium is alive which opens up a lot of implications about dwarves being resistant to it and the stone in general, dwarves having things called titans, dagna's talk implying that dwarves had some kind of hive mind, and the implication that dwarves were forcibly cut off from the fade.

 

Qunari: Qunari are apparently an artificial dragon-blooded race, they are apparently so afraid of the kossith that being hornless makes you important apparently for looking like a kossith, qunari apparently being uncontrollable berserkers kept in check by the qun, and how they are apparently a mistake.

 

 

What revelations have humans made that is close to what we learn about the other races?

[Cz-99]

I think that's true for most fantasy rendition of humans. Have humans ever not been vanilla?

[thesuperdarkone2]

I think that's true for most fantasy rendition of humans. Have humans ever not been vanilla?

Pretty much. That's why I'll never make a human warrior or rogue in Inquisition. I think this is a game where someone who isn't the normal hero takes charge which means a non-human or a human mage.

[Master Warder Z_]

I think that's true for most fantasy rendition of humans. Have humans ever not been vanilla?

Eh two universes or so to my knowledge and both of those have more to do with origin stories and such.

[NeverlandHunter]

Hmm, interesting points. I'd say BioWare is probably doing it to flush out their world a bit, I mean we all probably deal with humans a little more often than Elves, Dwarves, or Qunari. But does this make them the most boring race? They're still sprawled across Thedas, the most diverse and numerous race. There are many very interesting groups of humans-- the Avaar, the Chasind, the Magisters. Not to many all the various groups that consist of primarily humans too. I still find Dwarves to be the least interesting race, but that's a personal preference. In reality there's so much going on that has to do with humans and human history that it would probably be overwhelming (or at least unfair to other races) to put an emphasis on human history. Although I'm very interested to discover more about the first humans in Thedas and the land they came from.

[Master Warder Z_]

Par Vollen pyramids *nods*

[nightscrawl]

Hmm, interesting points. I'd say BioWare is probably doing it to flush out their world a bit, I mean we all probably deal with humans a little more often than Elves, Dwarves, or Qunari. But does this make them the most boring race? They're still sprawled across Thedas, the most diverse and numerous race. There are many very interesting groups of humans-- the Avaar, the Chasind, the Magisters. Not to many all the various groups that consist of primarily humans too. I still find Dwarves to be the least interesting race, but that's a personal preference. In reality there's so much going on that has to do with humans and human history that it would probably be overwhelming (or at least unfair to other races) to put an emphasis on human history. Although I'm very interested to discover more about the first humans in Thedas and the land they came from.

Yep, completely agree. I don't think that any of the new info makes any of the races any more or less interesting. If anything I would say that it puts them on more of an equal footing with each other since they have more background and historical material to work with, as opposed to say, the Qunari in DAO, whom we knew next to nothing about other than some one-sided, vague, often cryptic conversations with Sten.

[Br3admax]

Elves: The elven pantheon is real, arlathan wasn't the paradise elves made it out to be, ancient elves apparently using red lyrium.

That does not make the elven race itself interesting. They are still downtrodden urchins. Disgusting failures of downtrodden urchins at that. Also stupid. 

 

Dwarves: lyrium is alive which opens up a lot of implications about dwarves being resistant to it and the stone in general, dwarves having things called titans, dagna's talk implying that dwarves had some kind of hive mind, and the implication that dwarves were forcibly cut off from the fade.

Not really that interesting, and lyrium has been suspected to be alive since Origins; I still found Orzammar to be boring as hell, oddly enough. 

 

Qunari: Qunari are apparently an artificial dragon-blooded race, they are apparently so afraid of the kossith that being hornless makes you important apparently for looking like a kossith, qunari apparently being uncontrollable berserkers kept in check by the qun, and how they are apparently a mistake.

Sort of interesting, but given their tendency to have a society as great as great as 1984, and just as interesting, I'll pass. 

 

What revelations have humans made that is close to what we learn about the other races?

Variety. Variety is the spice of life, and uniform blandness of the other dishes is why I don't partake as often. It's like thinking vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry are the most interesting ice cream flavors, when neapolitan is sitting right there.  

[Andraste_Reborn]

I found playing a human the least interesting option throughout the game. As a female human warrior, I was exactly what everyone expected the Herald of Andraste to be, and that was just ... boring. I did take some joy in making the representation of everything conservative and establishment in southern Thedas a black lesbian, though.

 

I haven't finished my elf run yet, but between Solas, the endgame revelations about Mythal and JoH, they definitely have the closet relationship to the plot. Meanwhile, a dwarf or qunari Herald is completely unexpected, and I had a lot of fun playing off that. (Especially with my dwarf. It's like someone's snarky sidekick accidentally became the protagonist of the story - which is pretty much what happened.)

[Master Warder Z_]

I personally like triple chocolate caramel brownie o...o

[Br3admax]

I found playing a human the least interesting option throughout the game. As a female human warrior, I was exactly what everyone expected the Herald of Andraste to be, and that was just ... boring. I did take some joy in making the representation of everything conservative and establishment in southern Thedas a black lesbian, though.

 

I haven't finished my elf run yet, but between Solas, the endgame revelations about Mythal and JoH, they definitely have the closet relationship to the plot. Meanwhile, a dwarf or qunari Herald is completely unexpected, and I had a lot of fun playing off that. (Especially with my dwarf. It's like someone's snarky sidekick accidentally became the protagonist of the story - which is pretty much what happened.)

Yes, but what does this have to do with making the races themselves more interesting? This isn't really about the Inquisitor, who is boring regardless of what you do. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Not rly, in not intrested in whole elven "gods" thing.Im far more intrested in human diversity of cultures than whole "oh i have dragon blood so im interesting" , shame only that there is very little diversity on matter of religion among humans as far only avvars are alternative.

 

[Cespar]

Yes, but what does this have to do with making the races themselves more interesting? This isn't really about the Inquisitor, who is boring regardless of what you do. 

I didn't find the Inquisitor boring. It's just a huge transition going from a protagonist like Hawke to the Inquisitor. People expected a lot more from the Inquisitor because of what Hawke offered. I think things would have been vastly different if we went from the Warden to the Inquisitor to Hawke.

 

Usually when people think about the new thing coming out, they expect it to be greater than the old one. Basically, the Inquisitor was suppose to be bouncing all over the place with emotions and reactions to everything and everyone, and when he/she didn't, there was disappointment. 

[Shienis]

Hmm... even after playing DA:I, I find humans the most interesting. As it has been said, variety of cultures, many groups of different purpose... for me, they are definitely not boring. I just wish there wasn't always only 'noble' option for playing.

 

Dwarves are second. Mainly because of Varric, Dagna and Legion of Dead. I didn't mind Orzammar in DA:O and I plan to play a Dwarf in DA:I too. I have a feeling the're more to them than what was shown in the game.

 

Qunari are sort of interesting too, but...

Sort of interesting, but given their tendency to have a society as great as great as 1984, and just as interesting, I'll pass. 

...everyone says "follow the Qun", but the truth is... the Qun follows you... 

 

But elves... especially Dalish... they have rich mythology, but are kind of stuck in it. Maybe they were interesting in the past, but all clans you talk with in present are somewhat the same. Or maybe I just lack the needed perspective for them...

[NoForgiveness]

Nah humans were always boring. Ever since i started playing a human in real life I've been forced to be a human in just about everything else. DA and Wow and Skyrim/TES being like the only exceptions. Oh and ratchet and clank!

[DebatableBubble]

Hate the Dalish though I do feel for the city dwellers. 

 

Qunari and Dwarves I like though. 

[Baeraad]

I think that's true for most fantasy rendition of humans. Have humans ever not been vanilla?

 

Well, I've seen one instance of humans turning out to be an unholy hybrid of elves and dwarves, created as a slave race by the ancestors of the alien invaders that are the main villains of the story... but that's about the only time there was anything particularly unexpected about them, yeah.

[andy6915]

Suddenly? How is it sudden? It's been that way from the start. That's like asking "how do I suddenly have eyeballs???".

[Panda]

Humans have been always most boring race. You see humans all the time IRL, where is my escapism?!

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I like humans....

[daveliam]

"......humans suddenly the least interesting race......"

 

By "suddenly" do you mean, "always"?  Because they are dull as dishwater, in my opinion, and have been since day 1.