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All the talk about EA screwing gamers. (buy used)


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Only works for console players..., not PC players.

 

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...

 

Plus thanks to Steam sales, buying games on PC is cheaper than ever right now. A part of that is of course because used games have effectively been eliminated on PC.

 

I can imagine consoles going that way too, where buying the disk simply provides the install while the game license is registered through XBL or PSN/SEN to the person who owns that account in pretty much the same way Steam works - and hey presto, that's the second-hand market on consoles killed off.



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Tbh most gamers nowadays deserve to be screwed.



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I can imagine consoles going that way too, where buying the disk simply provides the install while the game license is registered through XBL or PSN/SEN to the person who owns that account in pretty much the same way Steam works - and hey presto, that's the second-hand market on consoles killed off.

The XBox One proposed to do that, and fans freaked out.



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The XBox One proposed to do that, and fans freaked out.

 

Because a number of gamers do not possess a good enough internet connection to download modern games.

 

I'd gladly adopt such a system the moment that is no longer the case.


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Realistically, I can't understand why those that are clinging to last gen would continue to buy new games for that console.

 

You should instead be saving money for a next gen console so that you won't be whining on BSN about your poor choices :wizard:



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Realistically, I can't understand why those that are clinging to last gen would continue to buy new games for that console.

 

You should instead be saving money for a next gen console so that you won't be whining on BSN about your poor choices :wizard:

 

Old gen is still getting new games this year. And it's not customers bad choice to buy game.. unless it's bad choice to buy Bioware's game. I don't know if that's message BW wants to sent.



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Old gen is still getting new games this year. And it's not customers bad choice to buy game.. unless it's bad choice to buy Bioware's game. I don't know if that's message BW wants to sent.

 

You've missed the point entirely.



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Because a number of gamers do not possess a good enough internet connection to download modern games.

I'd gladly adopt such a system the moment that is no longer the case.

Next console generation.

I expect the world to move forward and leave behind its offline underclass. Gaming will probably do it, too.

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Next console generation.

I expect the world to move forward and leave behind its offline underclass. Gaming will probably do it, too.

 

I hope not. There is just no way to stay online all the time you want. Problems with internet, traveling, going places that are outside of reception and so on. I'd hate if there was some decision that you need to be online to play, that's just annoying and completely unnecessary.


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I hope not. There is just no way to stay online all the time you want. Problems with internet, traveling, going places that are outside of reception and so on. I'd hate if there was some decision that you need to be online to play, that's just annoying and completely unnecessary.

 

The people who will push toward the design of this system presumably come from areas where internet connectivity isn't an issue. Much like with a lot of technical innovation nowadays, which comes from a particularly urban POV. 



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The people who will push toward the design of this system presumably come from areas where internet connectivity isn't an issue. Much like with a lot of technical innovation nowadays, which comes from a particularly urban POV. 

 

That would hurt lot of players in more remoted places though. Not every place as tightly build and all internet systems aren't as fast and reliable either. I don't see any positive side from players viewpoint in that either, you already can access everything when you plug into internet with your system and it's working.



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I don't think physical copies will ever disappear.



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Because a number of gamers do not possess a good enough internet connection to download modern games.

 

I'd gladly adopt such a system the moment that is no longer the case.

 

You shouldn't have to download the games though - the way it works with Steam (and boxed games) is that you can buy the retail boxed version of the game and when installing it it registers itself with Steam; pretty much exactly the same way as happens with consoles.

 

The difference is that with Steam the game is then registered to the account - you can effectively bin the boxed version afterwards if you like it's basically a pretty paperweight; there's no resale value as it'll not install for anyone else as the game's registered to your Steam account.

 

I still buy special edition boxed versions if they come with art-books.



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I hope not. There is just no way to stay online all the time you want. Problems with internet, traveling, going places that are outside of reception and so on. I'd hate if there was some decision that you need to be online to play, that's just annoying and completely unnecessary.

 

Assuming they model it after Steam and not whatever insanity Microsoft had going on, you wouldn't actually need an active internet connection in order to play the games. You would just need one to download them.

 

I can pull my internet cable out and still play any game I have installed on my Steam list.



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I think going fully digital would be pandering to the rich. Not everyone in the world can afford great internet service in their immediate area.



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The people who will push toward the design of this system presumably come from areas where internet connectivity isn't an issue. Much like with a lot of technical innovation nowadays, which comes from a particularly urban POV.

Global space-based wireless shouldn't be too far away.

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Global space-based wireless shouldn't be too far away.

 

Have you ever used satellite-based broadband? The latency is horrible!



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Have you ever used satellite-based broadband? The latency is horrible!

If you want responsiveness, sure. But if you're just distributing software it's mostly one-way traffic. That can work as a distribution channel.

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The people who will push toward the design of this system presumably come from areas where internet connectivity isn't an issue. Much like with a lot of technical innovation nowadays, which comes from a particularly urban POV.

Or anywhere in Saskatchewan.

Their data infrastructure is amazing.

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I think going fully digital would be pandering to the rich. Not everyone in the world can afford great internet service in their immediate area.

 

It's less pandering to the rich and more that a lot of areas simply haven't had the infrastructure built for them to have high speed internet.

 

Have you ever used satellite-based broadband? The latency is horrible!

 

As Sylvius said it would work as a distribution method since you're concerned with throughput rather than latency in that case. It doesn't matter that it takes 2-3 seconds to reach you when you're downloading a game if you can still send anywhere between 1-5 MB/second.

 

It would be terrible for actually doing any online gaming, though.



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It would be terrible for actually doing any online gaming, though.

The people who don't have access to terrestrial high-speed already aren't part of the MP market, so there's no loss there.