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Let's talk Carbon: Concerning new species/races


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Volus are special in that they are not carbon-based, but ammonia-based which is why they wear those pressurized suits when interacting with the rest of us. . .but am I the only one who wants to see more, non carbon-based life? The most common type thought of is Silicon-based lifeforms.

Silicon-Based lifeforms are often depicted in science fiction as crystalline rock type creatures and typically not the standard shape we are used to in speces, and are assumed by real science to only be possible at a very high temperature in which silicon bonds would remain stable in comparison to carbon bonds. . .we're talking such natural and common temperatures as around three-hundred degrees Fahrenheit (estimated 138-139 Celsius for you not-Americans). Everything about it would be more reliant on liquids and gases that remain as such at higher temperatures. . .depending on whom visits whom, someone would have to wear a specialized suit with a supply of breathable air.

 

Conversely, there's other elements/compounds that people think life could be based on, with ammonia-based lifeforms being considered on the opposite spectrum of Silicon-based lifeforms, at least in regards to temperatures (very cold places). The Volus homeworld of Irune features an average surface temperature of 48 fahrenheit (9 Celsius).

 

What do you think such non-carbon based creatures would look like? If we're thinking of a new race, would they be the same 'bipedal' form we're familiar with or would you like to see something considerably different? Would you like to encounter such strange creatures on such worlds like these, that may be mineral rich but clearly not suitable for carbon habitation? What about a new race, exotic to the point where the aliens we encountered in the Milky Way and other parts of Andromeda seem perfectly normal?

Examples of Silicon-based Lifeforms in other fictional works include:

- Spire, a playable character in the Metroid Universe.

- Crocomire, an organism encountered in the Metroid universe.



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All for more Starfish Aliens!


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All for more Starfish Aliens!

This is now a trope thread. :rolleyes:

 

But seriously though, I want less Humanoid Aliens, and Asari, and more STARFISH!



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Yes, and have them fart helium!

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3 Words Skinned Girls and Green. not in that order.



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3 Words Skinned Girls and Green. not in that order.

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I don't have a problem with humanoid shapes being common, whether or not those humanoids are carbon-based or silicon-based.

 

 

 

Scientists have actually proposed solid arguments for and against E.T. developing a body plan similar to ours. At face value, if you will, it seems unlikely that organisms on another world that underwent eons of unique evolutionary history should fit comfortably into our clothes.

 

"Why should they look like us? No other creatures look that much like us, except for other apes," said Seth Shostak, senior astronomer at the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute. "An alien will look like whatever its evolutionary niche is."

 

But maybe that's just it. Perhaps evolutionary circumstances similar to those that led us to develop limbs and fingers to manipulate tools arose on alien planets. Maybe being bipeds with bilateral symmetry is a perquisite for building socially and technologically advanced societies.

 

In this respect, some researchers say we possess a "pretty optimal design for an intelligent being," Shostak said. It could be that there is no other choice but for intelligent beings to look like humans.

 

 

 

The current thinking is that life would probably not start out elsewhere much differently than it did here. And on the path to achieving sentience, life might very well be shaped by similar ecological pressures.

 

Accordingly, although separated by trillions of miles, intelligent life on Earth and Glubgar — or whatever the world's inhabitants decided to call it — could end up broadly similar. They might well consist of a torso sprouting upper and lower appendages, topped by a head studded with sensory organs.

 

"In the grand scheme of things, and this would include almost all aspects of life, the number of solutions available is very limited," said Simon Conway Morris, a professor of evolutionary paleobiology at the University of Cambridge.

 

Science Fiction or Fact: ET Will Look Like Us



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Oh I'm sure a sentient race/species/romanceablethingie will be more human-shaped I've read the study, but I wouldn't turn down alien life in general being more diverse than just 'space dogs' (Varren, Mass Effect).



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I swear.....if all the new intelligent alien species are bipedal/humanoid I may have a meltdown.



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:huh:

WOT?



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But can we have sex with them?


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Why not they are girls whith green skin. well you probably cant. what with your condition and all.



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Why not they are girls whith green skin. well you probably cant. what with your condition and all.

 

Is it my condition that I lack a FTL capable starship?

 

I find that frequently gets in my way of getting with the alien ladies.



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Your just not doing it right .

BTW your pregnent and your cat is the mother.



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Is it my condition that I lack a FTL capable starship?

 

Donate now to cure this terrible Condition!

 

I don't know, I just googled space travel donate and went with the first Link.


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Lets see XXXharcore space girl porn.. ok ill donate for a remake of Star Whores.



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Oh I'm sure a sentient race/species/romanceablethingie will be more human-shaped I've read the study, but I wouldn't turn down alien life in general being more diverse than just 'space dogs' (Varren, Mass Effect).

 

I'm in the same boat. I'm cool with both and think more 'alien' aliens would be awesome. The Elcor are probably my favorite minor faction because they look more like ungulates than apes.

 

If they go for a new species that isn't a humanoid I think the key is a design that is still is able to manipulate its enviroment. They need some sort of sensory organs that serve the same functions as our eyes or ears and something that in place of arms and hands can use tools. I wouldn't be in favor of a species that is an amorphous blob for example, because my first question is how does something without hands or tentacles or anything that can use tools, build an advanced civilization. 



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The game "spore" asked us to add hands to our creature as soon as they reach the "sentient" phasis !



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 I wouldn't be in favor of a species that is an amorphous blob for example, because my first question is how does something without hands or tentacles or anything that can use tools, build an advanced civilization. 

(turn on the closed captions.)

:huh:

 

I'd be okay with amorphous blobs if they weren't an actual 'race' we encounter but just a creature. . .like those walking jellyfish things on Virmire that murder people and don't care if they get run over.

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A part of me wants something like Metroid's 'Spire' as an example of a silicon-based race, given that its humanoid yet clearly- not. I'd like to see something with multiple hands, but I'd also like a new race that's 'playable' in regards to how its animations still sync up with the one's  used by the assorted playable races of ME:MP. . .course I'd like to see something else that doesn't fit those lines so that its clearly different from the standard stock we already have.

 

Not entirely related, but I'd like to see a race that's legitimately 'primitive' and gets uplifted by people for use in assorted projects like the Vorcha were off-screen.



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@Broganisity:  We've already had two uplifted races... the Vorcha and the Krogan.  Three technically - the Hanar were uplifted by the "Enkindlers".



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@Broganisity:  We've already had two uplifted races... the Vorcha and the Krogan.  Three technically - the Hanar were uplifted by the "Enkindlers".

 

I mean we 'see' it happen. As in we are the one's who do it.



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@Han Shot First

 

Most scientist i've read from agree that if you let evolution proceed again, with or without mass extinction disruptions to filter some of Earth's diversity (Earth's lost some 99% or over 5 billion species in its past), you won't get something that looks facially identical to a human. Not a hot human especially!

 

In general though...

 

I've no issues with bipedals, but no more space elves or human faced aliens.

 

Seriously, look at the last 4 million years of our ancestral lineage, no really look. Do you see anything you'd want to romance (why did I ask that)?

Spoiler

 

Because it's that romance and bangability factor that leads to space elves.

 

And just small mutations of a Human's DNA, duplications or alterations in genetic material, and you get deformities of the body, face and head that make Humans look, well rather alien. I'm not going to post images though because I feel bad doing so. Just look up fragile X syndrome, Prader-Willi Syndrome, Cri du Chat, Down Syndrome, etc.

 

Now how the hell does an alien on a non-Earth like planet, on another arm of our galaxy, or another galaxy look identical to us, or sexy to us, two for that matter? No more plz! I pitch a romance Batarian idea and they have 99% of our anatomy, but no, they are not hot enough because the don't look Human enough. That's what I like though  :devil:

 

The leak sounded like we are dealing with alien-aliens, but no more (insert various colors) skinned babes (male or female).



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GRRAAAAGH! WE DON'T CARE WHAT TYPE OF CARBON LIFEFORMS! AS LONG AS NEW ALIENS BURN GOOD, VORCHA WILL BE HAPPY! IN THE END, DOESN'T MATTER!!


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Frankly i don't think this is that big of a deal. For story telling purposes you want aliens that are instantly recognisable as humans in alien suits except for one or two things that are alien. So that we can relate to them. A truly alien alien isn't relatable and loses its impact within the story. They are cool but they limit what stories they can tell.

 

having alien aliens for the sake of making aliens alien does little to further the narrative and thus isn't that important. Beyond the COOL factor. Which doesn't make good games. Truly alien aliens are best used as antagonists.



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GRRAAAAGH! WE DON'T CARE WHAT TYPE OF CARBON LIFEFORMS! AS LONG AS NEW ALIENS BURN GOOD, VORCHA WILL BE HAPPY! IN THE END, DOESN'T MATTER!!

Vorcha are hot too!