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[GaroTD]

In novels it was mentioned many times that having blond hair and blue eyes is rare because of some genetic thingy.

[Han Shot First]

In novels it was mentioned many times that having blond hair and blue eyes is rare because of some genetic thingy.

 

It was, unfortunately.

 

It is based on an urban legend. I wouldn't mind if Bioware quietly forgot that bit of lore and pretended it didn't exist.

 

 

 

No matter how old and ingrained this extinction belief may be, however, blondes and blonde-lovers probably need not fear the imminent demise of natural blondeness. Most scientists asked to comment on the faux study in recent years have opined that although the proportion of blondes in the population might decrease a bit in coming years, it won't drop to zero any time in the foreseeable future.

 

Snopes - Gone Blonde

[GaroTD]

Heh and I used to be like "wow in future there will be no blondes" This thread opened my eyes! ;P

[Ahriman]

In novels it was mentioned many times that having blond hair and blue eyes is rare because of some genetic thingy.

I still don't understand how it's an issue when such basic genetic modifications are available to everyone.

[GaroTD]

Yea but Kahlee was "natural blond" and it was weird about her. Still, who would know if she is natural or not.

[Daemul]

In novels it was mentioned many times that having blond hair and blue eyes is rare because of some genetic thingy.

And yet redheads are everywhere in the Mass Effect world.

Bioware pls, if you're going to spread BS in your novels, atleast keep your BS consistent. Blonde hair and blue eyes will never die out, ever, genetics don't work like that. If genetics DID happen to work like that, which again they don't, then red hair would die out too, but half the female human population in the games seem to have red hair for some reason.

[Daemul]

Sorry, double post.

[Daemul]

It was, unfortunately.

It is based on an urban legend. I wouldn't mind if Bioware quietly forgot that bit of lore and pretended it didn't exist.





Snopes - Gone Blonde

How did this even become an urban legend to start with? Did people fall asleep during the genetics section in biology class or something? This should never have been a thing.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

And yet redheads are everywhere in the Mass Effect world.

I can only recall about a dozen red haired people in the Mass Effect games, about as many as there were blonds. 

[QuarianOtter]

I always had a "headcanon" (I've kinda come to hate that word) of what real-world ethnicities each character was, and tried to match it as best I could with their names, the ethnicity of their character models, their canonical background, and the canonical implication that most humans by this point in time are mixed race.

 

John Shepard (default Sheploo look): A Spacer whose father was an Anglo-American, descended from astronaut Alan Shepard (who I don't think had any kids but let's say he does and over time they become a dynasty of famous astronauts). His mother Hanna is a Canadian of Dutch descent (Vanderloo, his character model, is Dutch). His father's side also had some Black and Latino.

 

David Anderson: Born to Black-British parents (in London, as we are told about four times), raised somewhere that gave him an American accent, he also has White British and Indian British ancestors.

 

Kaidan Alenko: Born and raised in Vancouver, Kaidan has a Ukrainian-Canadian father (owing to the fact that his last name seems to be Ukrainian and there is a sizable minority of Ukrainian-Canadians) and a mother a Brazilian woman of Japanese, Portuguese, and Native descent (his character model is Brazilian and Kaidan is a Japanese word and there are many Brazilians of Japanese descent believe it or not).

 

Jeff "Joker" Moreau: He looks kinda like Seth Green but darker. Owing to his darker features, his resemblance to Seth Green (who is Ashkenazi Jewish), and his French surname, my theory is that he his a Spacer (raised on Arcturus Station) of White French, Jewish-American, and Algerian-French background.

 

Karin Chakwas: I could never decide whether her surname was supposed to sound Indian or Slavic (even though it's actually just an anagram for hacksaw and isn't a real name) so I decide she was a British-national of Slavic (Polish, maybe?) and South Asian descent.

 

Greg Adams: He looks like every race and none of them. I decided he was White, Black, and  East Asian in roughly equal proportions. The exemplary mixed-race human of the Mass Effect future.

 

Charles Pressly: Has both White and Black ancestors.

 

Ashley Williams: Hispanic-American of Mestizo (mixed Spanish and Amerindian) descent, with an Anglo-American ancestor who gave her that surname.

 

Steven Hackett: Apparently born in Argentina, I decided he was was of Spanish and English descent.

 

Donnel Udina: Has a pseudo-Irish accent, looks Middle-Eastern, has a surname that is both Russian and Spanish. So I decided he was mixed Irish, Arab, Russian and Spanish, and born in Ireland.

 

The Illusive Man/Jack Harper: An American of Spanish and Irish descent, just like Martin Sheen.

 

Miranda Lawson: An Australian woman of Polish, English, and Chinese descent (Has an English surname, her character model is Polish-Australian, and Henry Lawson looks a bit ambiguous and somewhat East Asian to me).

 

Jacob Taylor: African-American, maybe some White and Amerindian ancestors like many African-Americans.

 

Kasumi Goto: Japanese, plain and simple. Japan is extremely homogenous and even in a mixed-race world like Mass Effect may still have many "purely" Japanese people.

 

Kai Leng: As per canon, Chinese and Russian.

 

Zaeed Massani: Zaeed is an Anglicization of an Arab name, Massani is Italian, so I'd say a British national of both Arab and Italian ancestry.

 

Jack: Her mother was a colonist who named her Jennifer, and her character model Candice Neil has an Irish last name. Let's say she predominantly Irish and Italian.

 

Steve Cortez: Mixed African-American and Mestizo-Mexican.

 

Samantha Traynor: Indian with a few White and Black British ancestors, born to British nationals.

 

Kenneth Donnelly: Scottish with some Black ancestors.

 

Gabriella Daniels: Italian, Anglo-American and Cuban.

 

James Vega: Hispanic-American of primarily European and African descent.

 

Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani: Egyptian Arab of some Somali descent.

 

Diana Allers: Who cares?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

@QuarianOtter: What about Kelly Chambers?

[QuarianOtter]

@QuarianOtter: What about Kelly Chambers?

 

I knew I forgot somebody from the crew.

 

I can't really see her as anything than a Anglo North American.

[Asari Goddess]

lol i thought Kelly Chambers died oh wait i also forgot i saved her from being melted alive by the collectors 

 

[Panda]

They were wrong doing it with their own species, but I don't think its wrong doing with the others.
Its not Human burden, its us doing what we do on our own planet with the lessers beings in another galaxy.

What I find funny is why doing it with aliens animal is OK, but doing it with "aliens" is not. Arent they animals too? What kind of animals is OK and what kind is not?

 

Cause humans and animals aren't same thing.

[Boost32]

Cause humans and animals aren't same thing.

Ofc we are, we belong to the Animalia Kingdom.
But since we are the apex of our world, we like to delude ourselves and think we are not.

[Han Shot First]

What I find funny is why doing it with aliens animal is OK, but doing it with "aliens" is not. Arent they animals too? What kind of animals is OK and what kind is not?

 

The difference is sapience. Most of humanity has judged it morally wrong to enslave other sapient beings.

 

Animals (and by that I mean non-sapient beasts) are sentient, but not sapient. Dogs being used to pull Inuit sleds for example are happy so long as they are well fed and cared for. They also enjoy the work.

 

Depriving sapient beings of their free will and turning them into beasts of burden inflicts suffering on them. Animals that aren't sapient don't suffer in the same way, so long as they are well cared for.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Here it is, saying that Blonds are a rarity, if anyone is interested. Taken directly from the first Novel.

 

Chapter Four, Book: Mass Effect Revelation

 

 "...Average in both height and build, Kahlee’s only really distinguishing feature was her shoulder-length blond hair—a genetically recessive trait, natural blonds were nearly extinct. But her hair was a dirty blond, with streaks edging toward shades of brown … and there were still plenty of humans who dyed their hair blond anyway...."

[Former_Fiend]

So essentially what I'm gathering from this thread is that the series needs more Polynesians. 

[Feybrad]

So essentially what I'm gathering from this thread is that the series needs more Polynesians. 

 

Yes.

[Wulfram]

The difference is sapience. Most of humanity has judged it morally wrong to enslave other sapient beings.
 
Animals (and by that I mean non-sapient beasts) are sentient, but not sapient. Dogs being used to pull Inuit sleds for example are happy so long as they are well fed and cared for. They also enjoy the work.
 
Depriving sapient beings of their free will and turning them into beasts of burden inflicts suffering on them. Animals that aren't sapient don't suffer in the same way, so long as they are well cared for.

Though "sapience" is a super fuzzy concept to be basing such fundamental moral questions on. To the extent that it often seems to be little more than a way of saying "soul" for people who find that sort of mystical/religious stuff uncomfortable.

Ashley was right. Telling the aliens from the animals is hard. Or at least it would be, if the aliens weren't mostly distinctly human-like in their intelligence.

[QuarianOtter]

So essentially what I'm gathering from this thread is that the series needs more Polynesians. 

 

I'm pretty sure there has been only one Polynesian, Admiral Kahoku, who has a Hawaiian name and looks like he could be Hawaiian.

[Former_Fiend]

So we could do with some Samoan and/or Maori squad mates, then.

[Boost32]

The difference is sapience. Most of humanity has judged it morally wrong to enslave other sapient beings.
 
Animals (and by that I mean non-sapient beasts) are sentient, but not sapient. Dogs being used to pull Inuit sleds for example are happy so long as they are well fed and cared for. They also enjoy the work.
 
Depriving sapient beings of their free will and turning them into beasts of burden inflicts suffering on them. Animals that aren't sapient don't suffer in the same way, so long as they are well cared for.

If you raise a human to pull inuit sleds and give him food he will be happy.
If you pick a wild dog and try to do it, he will not obey you.

And we learned that its morally wrong to slave others humans, not sapient beings.

[Panda]

Though "sapience" is a super fuzzy concept to be basing such fundamental moral questions on. To the extent that it often seems to be little more than a way of saying "soul" for people who find that sort of mystical/religious stuff uncomfortable.

Ashley was right. Telling the aliens from the animals is hard. Or at least it would be, if the aliens weren't mostly distinctly human-like in their intelligence.

 

Well there is many things that separate humans from animals. Having culture, higher thought processing including creating things, religion, moral and norm system etc. Animals can do quite well, but they are simpler and I doubt we will see dogs building cities, doing politics and walking on moon- well without help of humans, anytime soon.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well there is many things that separate humans from aliens. Having culture, higher thought processing including creating things, religion, moral and norm system etc. Animals can do quite well, but they are simpler and I doubt we will see dogs building cities, doing politics and walking on moon- well without help of humans, anytime soon.

Aliens don't have culture, higher thought processes including the ability to create, religion, moral and norm systems, etc?