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#26
Deerber

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Short report on Slayer testing:

 

Biotic Charge 6a is garbage.

Addition of Hurricane screws with cooldowns too much and doesn't do much against Atlases.

Phase Disruptor bonus damage vs armour is fine, but so is bonus damage vs shields/barriers. There's a noticable decrease in TTK vs Dragoons when bonus dmg vs armour is taken, while my feeling is that bonus damage vs shields/barriers results in overkill vs mooks.

 

The build I originally suggested is basically alright.

 

That's pretty much my experience too, although mine's not necessarily specific to a speedrunning settings, so this is more interesting.



#27
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The usual combo I used on Phantoms is Charge (stagger) -> gun shot -> Phase disruptor, but that needs to be executed to a tee, otherwise the Phantom flips and Disruptor misses, meaning you need to Phase disruptor her again.
 
Alternatively, you could go: gun shot -> charge (stagger) -> phase disruptor (easy to land since Phantom is still staggered).
 
Or just Phase disruptor her to death. Sometimes that's feasible.

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#28
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I agree with Deerber's build, though I think I would probably pick radius instead of damage on PD.  Tossup, though, and PD damage isn't that impressive if you go radius and don't use a power amp.

 

I also think Incidiary > Disruptor on the Talon in basically every situation.  Talon's built-in damage bonus to shields/barriers makes the shield damage bonus from Disruptor kind of irrelevant, and I'd rather have PD detonate fire explosions instead of tech bursts.



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I agree with Deerber's build, though I think I would probably pick radius instead of damage on PD.  Tossup, though, and PD damage isn't that impressive if you go radius and don't use a power amp.

 

I also think Incidiary > Disruptor on the Talon in basically every situation.  Talon's built-in damage bonus to shields/barriers makes the shield damage bonus from Disruptor kind of irrelevant, and I'd rather have PD detonate fire explosions instead of tech bursts.

 

I forgot - does PD detonate Incendiary debuff on shielded targets?



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I agree with Deerber's build, though I think I would probably pick radius instead of damage on PD.  Tossup, though, and PD damage isn't that impressive if you go radius and don't use a power amp.

 

I also think Incidiary > Disruptor on the Talon in basically every situation.  Talon's built-in damage bonus to shields/barriers makes the shield damage bonus from Disruptor kind of irrelevant, and I'd rather have PD detonate fire explosions instead of tech bursts.

 

I disagree. You cannot get more than one FE every 3 secs from one enemy, so since you have a power that can detonate 1 combo every... Half a second? Or something like that, disruptors prove to be more effective than incendiaries in this situation.

 

As for the radius vs damage, you can do either basically, they're both fine. The reason I prefer damage is mostly the target cap on PD. But radius is good too.

 

I forgot - does PD detonate Incendiary debuff on shielded targets?

 

What do you mean?



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Heldarion

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What do you mean?

 

If a Centurion still has shields but is primed for a fire explosion, can PD detonate it?



#32
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If a Centurion still has shields but is primed for a fire explosion, can PD detonate it?

 

Sure it can. No way to do that with incendiaries, though.



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Incendiary ammo doesn't prime through shields?



#34
TheNightSlasher

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Incendiary ammo doesn't prime through shields?

No. It only primes on armor and health.



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Heldarion

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Well then. Disruptor Ammo is clearly superior.



#36
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Well then. Disruptor Ammo is clearly superior.

Aren't you going to strip the shields on most things in one Talon shot though?



#37
Deerber

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Aren't you going to strip the shields on most things in one Talon shot though?


Doesn't matter, disruptors are leagues ahead on the Slayer, and it's proven by all the speedrun done on him with that setup...
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#38
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Disruptor Ammo lets you get sexy, sexy Tech Bursts which is reason enough to use it over Incendiary Ammo.


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#39
Heldarion

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Aren't you going to strip the shields on most things in one Talon shot though?

 

Not on Slayer, you're not.



#40
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U cant even reprime for a FE excpet if u wait for the incendiary ticks to vanish... If U keep shooting, u wont get 2 fe out of brute ... instead of a TB every 1 sec ...



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Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

 

Also, if you're soloing with Slayer against Cerberus, equip Disruptor ammo and possibly switch EVERY OTHER WEAPON IN THE GAME EXCEPT POSSIBLY THE WRAITH for Talon.

 

FTFY  B)

 

also for truthiness..