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[Deerber]

Saber lacks acc4racy ?

 

Yes in fact, it does and it's pretty dumb At long range you're gonna miss a lot of sure shots if you don't have any accuracy bonus.

[JGDD]

SI with drill rounds in a Saber is borderline filthy. I put the heavy scope and barrel on it with him. A little Geth scanner in the mix and you can put on your 'U Mad Bro?' face.

 

It's a very satisfying way to play.

[Quarian Master Race]

Yes in fact, it does and it's pretty dumb At long range you're gonna miss a lot of sure shots if you don't have any accuracy bonus.

It's not so much inaccurate as it has tons of bloom, which doesn't decrease back to base spread fast enough for its max fire rate on a kit without accuracy bonus, at least out of hardcover. First shot is usually fine for me at almost any range, but then you have to fire quite slowly or be in close-mid range to hit anything precisely.

[DeathScepter]

when I use the saber, I use it on the N7 Demolisher and she is surprisely good at it.

[LemurFromTheId]

Found some old testing screenshots lying around, you guys might be interested.

 

On left Saber is fired at max ROF without HM. Lots of spread. Lots of missed headshots even at midrange.

 

On right HM is on, fired at max ROF again. Almost no spread at all.

 

100% stability used to eliminate it as a factor.

 

 

Saber is always very accurate if you wait for the reticle to settle down, but then you'll lose DPS.

[ALTBOULI]

T-sent, i'm surprised nobody mentioned sooner...

[NuclearTech76]

As mentioned the TGI and anything with accuracy boosts is pretty good. Saber is really, really good at proccing the incendiary effect as well, low ROF, decent damage. Turian Sent and Huntress are pretty decent with the weapon.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I've used it all over the place, but the Saber is a favourite of mine, so I'll try it on anything once.

 

It was also my first non-promo UR to max, so that helped.

 

Other than what has been mentioned, my two favourites are: Human Soldier, and Human Infiltrator.

 

For HI, I go 5 ranks in TC, and basically use it as a sniper rifle without a scope. Being on console, that makes it much easier to aim accurately than when using a sniper rifle, because you can actually adjust for auto-aim without the scope interfering with your view. What I lose in damage, I tend to make up for in accuracy. Plus, cryo blast serves double-duty as a debuff and staggering tool. Since there's no hipfire penalty and no scope, I actually find it a lot easier to use than sniper rifles. I tend to get a lot more heashots with this setup, too (by which I mean hitting the head, not earning the medal.)

 

That having been said, it's not an "Optimal" loadout or anything like that, but if you bring Warfighter Gear V with you, it's a fun, well-rounded and highly effective way to use the Saber.

[The NightMan Cometh]

For whatever reason both times I tried the Saber on the FQE..wound up Vs. Cerberus and those are some of the worst games I have ever had.

[Darth Volus]

Saber is kinda weird to be honest. On non-ROF kits it's a bit too slow, on MM kits it's too fast and you need to slow down, because the crosshair jaws spread like crazy and you start missing even at close range even though the reticle is right on the money. 

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Saber lacks acc4racy ?

The reticle blooms quite large and shrinks back relatively slowly, is what is meant.

 

Yes, when you fire it at max rate of fire. HM accuracy bonus helps a lot.

This.

[LemurFromTheId]

Saber is kinda weird to be honest. On non-ROF kits it's a bit too slow, on MM kits it's too fast and you need to slow down, because the crosshair jaws spread like crazy and you start missing even at close range even though the reticle is right on the money. 

 

What are you talking about? When using MM, its inherent accuracy bonus keeps the weapon pin-point accurate despite the ROF increase.

 

And how is Saber "too slow" on non-ROF kits? It's faster than Talon or Viper, for example. You can't look at ROF in isolation. It's already one of the four great assault rifles, so if it fired any faster, it should also do less damage per shot.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Shut up.

 

*runs away and cries in corner*

Congratulations on your Eagle

 

 

 

*giggles and runs*

[Darth Volus]

What are you talking about? When using MM, its inherent accuracy bonus keeps the weapon pin-point accurate despite the ROF increase.

 

And how is Saber "too slow" on non-ROF kits? It's faster than Talon or Viper, for example. You can't look at ROF in isolation. It's already one of the four great assault rifles, so if it fired any faster, it should also do less damage per shot.

 

It's not pin-point accurate in MM, the bloom is still significant, not to mention recoil which also forces you to slow it down. As for Talon - it hits much harder and staggers even more often. 

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

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Salarian engineer. Coped well up close and at range.

[Alina Li]

I don't use it often but when I do, it's on the Turian Sentinel.

[Deerber]

It's not so much inaccurate as it has tons of bloom, which doesn't decrease back to base spread fast enough for its max fire rate on a kit without accuracy bonus, at least out of hardcover. First shot is usually fine for me at almost any range, but then you have to fire quite slowly or be in close-mid range to hit anything precisely.

 

That's not exactly my experience. I agree that the bloom is a significant problem, but its inherent accuracy isn't stellar too, and I've missed heaps of long-range first shots which I just knew were on target. If you keep it to a medium range tho, it's fine... Until you get to the 3rd-4th shot XD

 

It's not pin-point accurate in MM, the bloom is still significant, not to mention recoil which also forces you to slow it down.

 

I really don't know what the hell you're talking about XD When I activate MM, my Saber becomes more accurate than a PPR. As for the recoil, l2DPI, or l2stabmodules

[LemurFromTheId]

It's not pin-point accurate in MM, the bloom is still significant, not to mention recoil which also forces you to slow it down. As for Talon - it hits much harder and staggers even more often. 

 

Not true. Go ahead and test it yourself - though you don't need to, as I made this just for you:

 

 

Marksman enabled, firing at max ROF. MM specced for Firing Rate, Headshots and Accuracy & Firing Rate.

 

Recoil can be compensated for with weapon mods and consumables, as I did for demonstration purposes when taking the screenshot, but normally I don't use any helpers. The ROF is still slow enough that I feel like I can aim every shot individually.

 

My other point was that Saber is well balanced for its current ROF, and any specific ROF in isolation isn't "too slow" or "too high".

[BioWareAre****s]

Congratulations on your Eagle

 

 

 

*giggles and runs*

 

 Why you so mean?
*cries more*

[Darth Volus]

Not true. Go ahead and test it yourself - though you don't need to, as I made this just for you:

 

 

Marksman enabled, firing at max ROF. MM specced for Firing Rate, Headshots and Accuracy & Firing Rate.

 

Recoil can be compensated for with weapon mods and consumables, as I did for demonstration purposes when taking the screenshot, but normally I don't use any helpers. The ROF is still slow enough that I feel like I can aim every shot individually.

 

My other point was that Saber is well balanced for its current ROF, and any specific ROF in isolation isn't "too slow" or "too high".

 

I don't care about dry tests. In real game the results are going to be a lot of missed shots even when you appear to hit

 

 

Watch carefully. He hits a lot, but almost every time he starts spamming it full ROF, he starts missing. 

 

And that's d_naught, probably one of the best Saber users. 

 

Only this guy can full ROF Saber and hit every shot as a headshot: 

 

[ALTBOULI]

The Saber is so much better on PC than it is on console, we got a nerfed version 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

The Saber is so much better on PC than it is on console, we got a nerfed version 

 

A nerfed Saber is still great Saber!

 

But I think the Saber is temperamental as far as its aim goes on both systems. It's just that on console, auto-aim and temperamental weapons go together with screenshake to create a smorgasbord of anti-accuracy headaches.

[LemurFromTheId]

I don't care about dry tests. In real game the results are going to be a lot of missed shots even when you appear to hit

 

Watch carefully. He hits a lot, but almost every time he starts spamming it full ROF, he starts missing.

 

Your claim was: "on MM kits it's too fast and you need to slow down, because the crosshair jaws spread like crazy and you start missing even at close range even though the reticle is right on the money". This is simply false, but for some reason you don't seem to be able to admit it.

 

I downloaded the video and watched the first couple of waves - important bits frame-by-frame. I'm not seeing any evidence of what you're saying. d_nought misses several times, but every time he does, it's because his aim isn't on target. I know how good he is, but even he's not perfect. Please give me a specific timestamp if you know for sure there's some weird stuff happening.

 

There are a couple of spots that are simply unclear in the video, and the reason for that is that the Youtube video has fixed 30 fps framerate, while the original video is probably recorded at higher but variable framerate.

 

And hell, of course d_nought keeps missing more when he turns MM on and starts spamming bullets. Less time to aim, what's so strange about that?

 

In any case, if your reticle is on target and you have MM on, you will hit the target; it's that simple. If you keep missing, it's not because the weapon has some weird spread, it's because your aim is off.

[LemurFromTheId]

The Saber is so much better on PC than it is on console, we got a nerfed version 

 

You got nerfed controls and framerate, that's all. There's a huge difference between 30 fps and 60 fps when it comes to shooting things.

[q5tyhj]

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