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[Queen Skadi]

Just curious, saw a topic in off topic asking which had the better soundtrack, Witcher 3 or Inquisition, and I could not help but think about what a pointless question it was, it is like asking who is the faster runner? Usain Bolt or Tiny Tim? It just isn't a competition, but it did get me thinking, is there anything Inquisition and the Dragon Age series actually manages to do better than the Witcher 3 and the Witcher series?

 

I know this is the Dragon Age forums so some responses may be a little biased but I guess the series needs everything it has got going in it's favor to find what the games do well.

 

 

 

Though I wouldn't say the Dragon Age games do this particularly well I will say they do it at least better than the Witcher series, save imports I guess.

[Pressedcat]

Party based combat, combat that can be played from tactical camera, a design ethos more centred on interacting with a close group of companions; you know, all the things that differentiate DAI from Witcher 3.

Plus all those subjective things that vary from person to person.

Basically all those things that DAI does that The Witcher 3 doesn't plus everything else that falls under personal preference.

[correctamundo]

Yes.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

There is something to be said for subtlety.

[DreamSever]

party interactions but then geralt doesnt require one although id love your love interest as a companion

 

cant really think of much else, the world is better in witcher with stuff constantly changing, loads of interesting npc's

 

I commend bioware for the game but its not memorable like the first 2

[Queen Skadi]

Party based combat, combat that can be played from tactical camera, a design ethos more centred on interacting with a close group of companions; you know, all the things that differentiate DAI from Witcher 3.

Plus all those subjective things that vary from person to person.

Basically all those things that DAI does that The Witcher 3 doesn't plus everything else that falls under personal preference.

 

The things that either series don't do that the other does don't really count as there is nothing to compare, of course Inquisition does things like party based combat and character creation systems better because the Witcher games simply don't do these things, they are simply not a factor that can be compared just like you can't compare Inquisition's controllable sail boats or Day/Night cycle and weather systems (though day/night cycle and weather these things do fall under the broad subject of atmosphere which can be compared) to the Witcher 3 as they simply don't exist in Inquisition.

[CronoDragoon]

There's a rather lengthy thread on this in the Feedback section, so you could check that out.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yes. A lot of things. 

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Not having to play as a straight, white guy.

[bondari reloads.]

Attracting fans that don't feel the need to prove their toy is so much better than the other's toy?

See below for W3 thread

http://forum.bioware...-the-witcher-3/

[Pokemario]

*Reads thread title*

*Disgusted noise*

[Queen Skadi]

Well naturally all those femme fatale's running around. Some chicks just don't want to play as Gerault, I know it's hard to believe, judging by the sheer number of these Witcher-related threads, nonetheless, it is true. Well actually, no it's not, there are most likely guys who don't want to play as him either.

 

I get it, we all get it, personally I much rather being able to create my own character than being forced to play a pre-defined one, but this does not stop me from playing games that have a pre-defined protagonist, sometimes a story requires a pre-defined character and this does not make the game any less brilliant, I mean look at Planescape: Torment, despite forcing the player into the role of the Nameless One it is still considered one of the greatest story driven games of all time.

[Nefla]

Dat Witcher 3 soundtrack (especially sailing in Skellege) DA:I didn't really have a soundtrack did it? I mean each zone had like a 10-30 second music clip that would play once in a while but it was mostly hours of silence + your footsteps. The whole thing combined would be...what 6 minutes?

 

BioWare used to be the king of character and character interaction, but I felt like they have definitely slipped where the Witcher 3 blew me away. Compare the drinking scene with the DA:I companions to the drinking scene with Eskel and Lambert for example: no contest. TW3 had more real and complex characters, it showed and didn't just tell you "so and so is this master manipulator" with no evidence to back it up. I felt something for all of them whether good or bad. DA:I was very simple and to me kind of felt like it was meant for children.

 

I do always prefer to make my own character and choose my own gender/looks/race/sexuality but TW3 (and the connections between the characters) was good enough to get me to easily overlook that. So I'll give DA:I one aspect at least and that's ability to create a character (minus the awful hair  ).

[Queen Skadi]

Dat Witcher 3 soundtrack (especially sailing in Skellege) DA:I didn't really have a soundtrack did it? I mean each zone had like a 10-30 second music clip that would play once in a while but it was mostly hours of silence + your footsteps. The whole thing combined would be...what 6 minutes?

 

BioWare used to be the king of character and character interaction, but I felt like they have definitely slipped where the Witcher 3 blew me away. Compare the drinking scene with the DA:I companions to the drinking scene with Eskel and Lambert for example: no contest. TW3 had more real and complex characters, it showed and didn't just tell you "so and so is this master manipulator" with no evidence to back it up. I felt something for all of them whether good or bad. DA:I was very simple and to me kind of felt like it was meant for children.

 

I do always prefer to make my own character and choose my own gender/looks/race/sexuality but TW3 (and the connections between the characters) was good enough to get me to easily overlook that. So I'll give DA:I one aspect at least and that's ability to create a character (minus the awful hair  ).

 

 

While I agree with you it is very easy to point out the things that Witcher 3 does better than Inquisition, I would much rather have this thread be more about the things Inquisition does better than the Witcher 3 as such things are much more of a rarity

[Nefla]

 

While I agree with you it is very easy to point out the things that Witcher 3 does better than Inquisition, I would much rather have this thread be more about the things Inquisition does better than the Witcher 3 as such things are much more of a rarity

The ability to create your own character.

[DreamSever]

creating your character is good but not always, as inquisition shows, hes bland most of the time

 

hawke now that's how a protag should be, he made my inquisitor pale in comparison

 

I liked skyhold too, more then the witcher fort though and the ability to customize it and see the changes

[Lawrence0294]

In the end, yes both are RPGs, but they are different and offer different type of experiences. Of course, considering that, one can be argued to be objectively superior.

Anyway, having played both games (well...half way through Witcher 3), I'd say what Inquisition does better is the following:

 

- More freedom in dialogue options

 

- A richer lore

 

I think that is about it. Stuff like the freedom to create your own character and tactical combat, I decided not to include it as it goes back to the idea that these two games are here to offer different genre of RPG experiences. I wouldn't want Witcher to become a tactical combat RPG just like I wouldn't want Dragon Age to become a more action paced combat RPG.

[Queen Skadi]

- A richer lore

 

Define "richer lore"

[Lawrence0294]

Define "richer lore"

Maybe "richer" wasn't the correct term. I personally love Witcher's lore as it draws from all those Slavic legends and stories. However, what I slightly prefer from what the lore of Dragon Age offers is that it's mostly created from scratch and offers very interesting stories, what with the Elven Gods, Andraste, the creation of the Chantry etc.

[Jawzzus]

I have no idea, I guess the thing DA:I does better then Witcher 3/2 is making me actually want to play and shell out money for it.  I have no desire to buy any of the Witchers, and never have.  I haven't seen anything that made me go, hm that could be cool to play.

[Heimdall]

Define "richer lore"

Well DA is much stronger and more fleshed out from a world building perspective.

[Lee80]

Serious question, but do people go to the Witcher message boards to obsess about Dragon Age? 

[Donk]

DA:I has a much more masculine, heroic protagonist.

 

TW3:

 

 

DAI:

 

 

 

Serious question, but do people go to the Witcher message boards to obsess about Dragon Age? 

 

Not sure about the official CDPR boards, as I was denied access due to not being a member. However, on the Steam forums there are similarities. Gay agenda this, romance options suck that, flower picking simulator, this game is boring, I can't do what I want and it breaks my immersion, etc..

[gangly369]

Characters.

 

 

I've always felt that the DA series has trumped the Witcher series in this regard. The companions and the romances in the DA series have significantly more depth than those found in the Witcher, Witcher 2, and Witcher 3.

 

That isn't to say that the Witcher series has horrible characters. In particular, Iorveth and Roche in the Witcher 2 were both fantastic, with great background stories and some fantastic interactions with Geralt. Of course, fast-forward to the W3 and Iorveth gets about 1-2 mentions (with a grand total of zero appearances), and Roche barely gets any screen time (outside of yelling his love for Temeria and how crazy Radovid is). Its also hard to overlook the one-note characters such as Zoltan and Dandelion, who had little to no growth throughout the entirety of the series.

 

Furthermore, I felt CDPR did an absolutely horrible job with the portrayal of Triss Merrigold. She sort of just latches on to you in the first game, and appears to be all lovey-dovey and obsessed with Geralt for no reason (obviously there are reasons, but those are mostly found within the book series, not the game). The second game didn't improve on this much, especially considering she was only around for about 1/4 of the game. She has sex with you, sticks around in the bar, has sex with you again, and then gets kidnapped. Zero character development. To be fair, though, Triss in the third game felt much more 'alive' to me, and her personal struggles were told in a captivating way (although she contributes little to the end-game, something which a lot of Trissmancers were clearly upset about on the CDPR forums).

[Forsythia77]

I like the Witcher series.  I like  the Dragon Age series.  I'm not one of those women who won't play a game because of a male protagonist.  If I were, there would only be like three games out there I could play.  The  games are both different.  Sure they are RPGs but one is party based, one is not.  The issues are different, even if some of the elements in them overlap.  But that is the nature of the fantasy realm.  I hate that people immediately feel the need to compare or force a competition between the two games. DAI has some of the prettiest dragons I've seen in any game.  It hurts me to have to kill them. And in the Witcher, the fact that Geralt grows a beard as time passes is just one of those wonderful little immersive details that let you know that time is passing and to get a haircut, ya damn hippie. I like that Geralt has this subtle dry sense of humor.  I like that the party based banter in DA is just outright hilarious and not subtle at times.  I like the overly involved crafting in both games and the constant need to pick flowers.  I like that the actress who does Hawke's voice is also Ciri's voice.  My point is that both games are good.  And both games have things that make me want to punch a baby.  Neither is perfect.  Both are great fun.